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Hi Everyone!!

Although this question was asked a million times, I am wondering about anyone's recent experience (within the last half a year).

I am a permanent resident and I want my mom (a Ukr. citizen) to visit us over these Christmas holidays. Sadly, her B1\B2 visa application was rejected. She said that out of 30 people in line before her only 4 were approved. This wasn't the case when I was applying for my visa years ago!!

If you could recommend something or share your experience, that would be greatly appreciated.

Here is the package Mom had with her :

- Real estate (owner)

- Car (owner)

- Bank statement ( over the course of the past couple of years)

- Job ( she runs her own business, she has people working for her)

- her husband (my dad who doesn't want to travel to the US and would rather work over the holidays)

BUT

I am the only daughter. And they specifically asked her about that.

The interview was like 3 minutes, they didn't even look at the papers that Mom brought. Seems like they are making their decision judging by the DS-160 that Mom filed prior.

So I am looking for an advice \ an opinion from outside our family :) about what we can do differently.

And just to throw it there, I never violated US immigration laws, never overstayed, previously held J1 and B1\B2 visas.

Would appreciate your constructive recommendations!! Thank you!!!

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I sympathize with your plight, although I don't believe that I have any good advice. My girlfriend applied for a B2 in Kiev recently and had her interview on 4 September. She was denied. Her two sons and her parents are in Ukraine. She has a decent job, owns her flat and some other real estate, owns a car and has done some traveling. It's not clear to me exactly what the concern was, although I suspect that it may have been her somewhat limited travel resume. I also wonder if the fact that she wrote the purpose of her visit was to see me could have been viewed as a negative by the CO. While she didn't have any exact numbers, she also observed that very few approvals were given while she was there.

I'm also interested in others' experiences and any advice in regard to applying for a B2 visa in Kiev.

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I sympathize with your plight, although I don't believe that I have any good advice. My girlfriend applied for a B2 in Kiev recently and had her interview on 4 September. She was denied. Her two sons and her parents are in Ukraine. She has a decent job, owns her flat and some other real estate, owns a car and has done some traveling. It's not clear to me exactly what the concern was, although I suspect that it may have been her somewhat limited travel resume. I also wonder if the fact that she wrote the purpose of her visit was to see me could have been viewed as a negative by the CO. While she didn't have any exact numbers, she also observed that very few approvals were given while she was there.

I'm also interested in others' experiences and any advice in regard to applying for a B2 visa in Kiev.

In your case, I would assume that two kids is a pretty strong tie and a good reason to come back...well, unless they are over 18 years old, but that's again just a speculation.

Yes, a sheer number of denied application seems to be a new tendency even for the US embassy in Ukraine. They never were too "easy-going" but at least you had a chance if you could demonstrate strong ties. Now, it's hard to understand what they consider to be strong ties.

I was actually wondering if this might be because of the political situation in Ukraine OR all the immigration debates in the US.

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In your case, I would assume that two kids is a pretty strong tie and a good reason to come back...well, unless they are over 18 years old, but that's again just a speculation.

Yes, a sheer number of denied application seems to be a new tendency even for the US embassy in Ukraine. They never were too "easy-going" but at least you had a chance if you could demonstrate strong ties. Now, it's hard to understand what they consider to be strong ties.

I was actually wondering if this might be because of the political situation in Ukraine OR all the immigration debates in the US.

Unfortunately there are too many people who plan ahead, parent gets tourist visa, goes to the States and adjusts status, then petitions for children.

While I'm sure this doesn't apply to all, or even most, applicants I'm certain it's something interviewing officers are wary of.


August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

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Unfortunately there are too many people who plan ahead, parent gets tourist visa, goes to the States and adjusts status, then petitions for children.

While I'm sure this doesn't apply to all, or even most, applicants I'm certain it's something interviewing officers are wary of.

Yes, I hear you. Seems like in this case there are two way to deal with everything: following the rules and scheming. But the fact that the embassy doesn't explain anything is not helpful. Like, what do they interpret as a red flag? How can we fix it?

For example, now I start wondering, does this mean that my parents won't EVER be able to visit us? I wasn't planing to apply for the US citizenship, I am quit satisfied with the rights I have as a permanent resident. Now, I was reading that being a citizen can help with this B2 visa.

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Like, what do they interpret as a red flag? How can we fix it?

If you ever figure that out, package it and sell it. You'll be a billionaire in a week!!


August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

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