flight plans

[Niblet 22]

The real issue here is to help our new friend the best way to flight out from the Philippines whether Clark or NAIA and provide her more info the best we can

Niblet from some reason I can't comprehend your point, I must say I agree with Hank and DavidRoxy

Well since you admitted to being a pilot,,and I am a licensed A/C mechanic....I will try and put it in a simpler format

The nice Lady asked an honest question,,,since I have more experience with Angeles City and Clark AB than perhaps anyone on this forum,,

I thought I would give her my opinion. That is all,,I suggested she NOT do that,,it was only a suggestion,,not a mandate.

If you dont understand why I have told her not to try, then you obviously dont understand the Philippines.

Things dont always work the way we are used to here in the Western world. You can have evrything in order,,,

and if the immigration offficer is having a bad day,,they will block her,,it happens all the time,,,but you people arent on the forums I'm on.

so you would not know this. i am telling you what happens there,,,proceed at your own risk.

Furthermore Non-reving with a K-1 in hand shows bad taste,,,,24 yrs seniority at a major airline and the guy cant spring for revenue tickets???

I dont get it,,just asking for trouble,,,,but what do I know,,,,

Everyone should do what Hank tells them too

[Hank_ 9,174]

Truly corn cob would be the last person I would look at for good advice, unless it involves.... errr "never mind that topic of his got locked", so maybe... "no that topic of his got locked too", then there is... "no never mind that topic of his got locked as well". It's really difficult to find anything of value that could be used as good advice... all his topics keep getting locked by the moderators.

Edited September 15, 2013 by Hank_

[Niblet 22]

Truly corn cob would be the last person I would look at for good advice, unless it involves.... errr "never mind that topic of his got locked", so maybe... "no that topic of his got locked too", then there is... "no never mind that topic of his got locked as well". It's really difficult to find anything of value that could be used as good advice... all his topics keep getting locked by the moderators.

Why is that my fault??? I'm just asking some questions is all,,,don't mean to offened anyone

[April-n-Gary 17]

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Niblet on this one. Second things first, Non-Rev tickets, are basically standby tickets, at least she will be traveling with the employee so they will be using his seniority, but 24yrs at a major airline like United, really isn't that high on the seniority lists. Just be prepared to spend a couple of days en-route waiting for an opening.

As for the first point, getting thru immigration at Clark, I'm pasting an article I remember reading somewhere else. Although it doesn't apply to this exact situation, it does reflect a certain bias at the Clark Airport. It basically shows that the immigration officers at Clark seem to feel that they can bar legal travelers from departing at their whim. I have heard, that it is getting better at Clark.

BTW, I actually had a similar situation at Manila the first time I took April to Singapore, she was pulled aside for secondary inspection, had to fill out a form, and questioned for about 30+ min. We barely made our flight!

‘UNUSUAL DELUSION OF POWER’
Clark BI officers hit for alleged abuses

CLARK FREEPORT – The president of the Clark Investors and Locators Association (CILA) here decried yesterday alleged abuses committed against him and his girlfriend by personnel of the Bureau of Immigration (BI) at the Clark International Airport (CIA) here.

CILA President Jeff Pradhan, director for business development of Peregrine International, said he dropped plans for a business-related trip last Thursday after his girlfriend, Marites Rosales, 26, was off-loaded from their Tiger Airways flight to Hong Kong even after her passport was already stamped for departure.

Guy Hilbero, tourism department chief of Mabalacat, Pampanga which covers the airport here, urged Immigration Commissioner Ricardo David Jr. to look into the case which, he stressed, “does not seem isolated.”

“Some Immigration officers at the airport seem to have developed an unusual delusion of power that they now wield arbitrarily. It’s getting to be scandalous and will eventually affect tourism,” he said.

Punto tried to get the side of Immigration officials at the airport, but no one was available. The operations chief of the Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) could also not be reached.

Pradhan said he and Rosales were bound for Hong Kong to witness a boxing bout upon the invitation of international boxing referee Bruce MacTavish. He said the trip was related to his firm’s plans to launch boxing promotional packages here.

Rosales said he was ahead of Pradhan at a counter line 8 a.m. last Thursday when an Immigration personnel they identified as Omar Yunus asked about “personal matters”, including her relationship with Pradhan before stamping her passport for departure.

Introducing himself as from CILA, Pradhan said he inquired from Yunus why Rosales was asked personal questions.

“That was when all the Immigration people there started being confrontational from beginning to end.

Most of the Immigration personnel refused to identify themselves and we came to know of their identities only from their name tags whom some of them tried to cover,” Pradhan said.

Pradhan said his query apparently infuriated Yunus who told him to go to the pre-departure area and leave behind his girlfriend.

Rosales said that while her passport was already stamped for departure, Yunus again told her to fill up a form, but she failed to state how much her plane ticket cost as Pradhan had paid for it.

Rosales said she was then told to go to the desk of another Immigration personnel she and her boyfriend later came to know as one Jeffrey Pinpin. She said Pinpin again asked her about her family and documents about her being a local student.

“I had been abroad before and I was never asked to produce such documents, so I said I did not carry such documents at that time,” Rosales said.

She said another Immigration personnel, a woman who covered her identification card on her breast when asked to be identified, demanded another requirement that included a seminar by the Commission on Filipino Overseas (CFO).

“She got furious when I said I would call Jeff (Pradhan) who was still in the pre-departure area. She said mine was a hopeless case,” she said.

Pradhan said he opted not to proceed with his trip to Hong Kong without Rosales.

When he asked to talk to higher airport authorities, Pradhan said one Zenaida Cruz showed up with a torn piece of paper on which she underscored with ballpen stating the need for Rosales to first seek certification from the CFO.

“She was evidently perturbed when she later saw my girlfriend’s passport already stamped for departure for Hong Kong,” Pradhan said.

He said that the CILA is also investigating the case amid similar grievances aired by other foreign investors in this Freeport.

source: http://punto.com.ph/News/Article/141...alleged-abuses

Steve, seems someone found another great way to piss of investors. I am almost certain Jeff Pradhan doubles his effort to find investors and promote the PI as it is more fun in the Philippines

Last edited by Rhoody; 05-02-2012 at 05:47 AM. Reason: added source

[Niblet 22]

SNAP!!!!!.....Gary,,you rock!

[April-n-Gary 17]

I may not work for a major airline, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.

[Niblet 22]

I may not work for a major airline, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.

How many actually got that i wonder??? Thanks again

[FirstOfficerD 5]

As of today for

Sept. 18 UA flight 862 HKG-SFO 41 seats available plus 30 reserve seats

Sept. 19 UA flight 862 HKG-SFO 46 seats available plus 30 reserve seats

Sept. 20 US flight 862 HKG-SFO 52 seats available plus 30 reserve seats

if you want to fly to HKG-SFO on 18, 19, 20, you should be ok

even if your non-rev but you are flying your own airline with 24 years seniority, I can almost guarantee you will be on the flight, I only been flying for 6 years and do not have much seniority, fly to Manila 6, 7 times a year not once I missed a flight, although sometimes I need to be at JS

a lot of employee either took their retirement or buyout after UA merges with NW, I believe that was 2011

and yes your nor-rev, but non-rev passenger has access to check load capacity, you should be able to check your load before planning your trip

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Oh, Gary... you agreed with NIBBLER? Karma gonna get you, my man...