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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Jamaica
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K and L's comment was inline with the terms of service of this site. VJ does not allow anyone to make recommendations that, if followed, would constitute a violation of the law. I was admonished for my comment because I came close to crossing that line by even mentioning that lying was a possibility, even though I wasn't suggesting that the OP's fiance do this. There's nothing wrong with listing all the possible options, but I should have been clear in my post that particular option was not legal. I wasn't clear about this. K and L was.

I totally agree. However, the only person who mentioned lying was the one person who didn't know lying was such a big deal. From what I read everyone totally advised against lying and to tell the truth. No one was stating that the individual should lie. I like surgarapple found the quote to be excessive when the individual didn't know better. Instead of stating it like that it could have worded it differently, because I do believe it did scare the indivdual away.

09-21-2009 - Met for the first time

10-31-2009 - Visited for 5 days

12-30-2009 - visited for 11 days (informal engagement)

1-13-2010 - Mailed I129F Petition

1-15-2010 - Recieved NOA1

1-21-2010 - Touched

3-09-2010 - visiting for 6 days

3-12-2010 - Formal Engagement in Ochee

4-20-2010 - Recieved NOA2 (no previous touches)

4-22-2010 - NVC Recieved my Petition, Assigned New Case#

4-23-2010 - Case leaving NVC (have DHL tracking# so I can follow case to Kingston)

4-23-2010 - Recieved NOA2 (hard copy) in the mail

4-26-2010 - Kingston Embassy Recieved Petition (signed by Mr. Morgan)

4-25-2010 - visiting for 5 days

4-30-2010 - Kingston Embassy mailed out Packet# 3

5-3-2010 - E-Mailed Kingston Embassy DS-230

5-4-2010 - Embassy e-mailed interview date

5-26-2010 - Medical

6-6-2010 - Flying down for interview

6-8-2010 - INTERVIEW...APPROVED!!!!

6-23-2010 - VISA RECIEVED!!!

6-27-2010 - Flying down to Jamaica

06-30-2010 - POE (JFK)

09-25-2010 - WEDDING!!!

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Filed: Country: Brazil
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He might be correct, however, people come on here for advice on what to do and what not to do. Most people come on here with not a clue what to do. So when they make a comment such as what the original poster made it is our job to lead that individual in the right direction. NOT make a bold headed post stating it is our responcibility to report you if you lie...Common, we are here to help and direct people in the right direction. If they decide to go in the wrong direction they will be caught.

First of all, I am a she, not a he.

Secondly, the OP indicated that they were strongly considering lying, which is intentional immigration fraud, and against the law. The paragraph before the VJ TOS, I made a point to mention there are consequences beyond getting the visa or not for lying to USCIS or the DOS as far as immigration goes -- things that are stated on many of the forms.

With all the time and money my fiancé and I have spent getting him here legally, I find it utterly repugnant that someone would try to get around the law by lying, and quite frankly, posting the TOS was meant as a warning: if the OP were to submit either visa form and continue posting as though they were strongly considering lying to USCIS and the DOS, I would turn them in to USCIS for suspected visa fraud / misrepresentation. It's unfortunate that things like citizenship can and do stand in the way of being with one's loved one, and I may not agree with the way this country handles immigration (or non-immigration), but there's a right way and a wrong way to take care of that. Illegal entry and lying is the wrong way, and it infuriates me that they even considered willful misrepresentation as a legitimate tactic to get around an automatic denial/ban situation.

Finally, with regards to your last post: Jim had made it clear in his original post that if the lie was found out, there would be stiff consequences as far as the immigration was concerned (including a lifetime ban). That in of itself should have clued the OP in to the fact that lying is taken to be very seriously by USCIS and the DOS. But instead of focusing on the consequences for lying, the OP chose to ignore them and focus on the benefits of doing so. Some pointed out the issues with proving the bonafides should they leave out the previous illegal entry, others pointed out the issues with immigration that would result if they discovered it (and that it's easier than the OP may have thought to discover illegal entry), and I was merely pointing out that above and beyond the criminal aspects of what they were doing that VJ could be used against them in a legal sense, especially if they filled out their timeline / etc.

I-129F Petition Mailed: 26 Oct 2009 ♥ NOA1: 27 Oct 2009 ♥ NOA2: 15 Jan 2010

K-1 VisaNVC: 22-27 Jan 2010 ♥ RdJ receipt: 1 Feb 2010 ♥ Packet 3/4: 12 Feb 2010 ♥ Interview: 4 May 2010

»-(¯`·.·´¯)-> Married (17 Aug 2010) <-(¯`·.·´¯)-«

AOS (I-485)Mailed: 21 Aug 2010 ♥ NOA: 2 Sept 2010 ♥ To CSC: 20 Sept 2010 ♥ Biometrics: 5 Oct 2010 ♥ RFE: 10 -16 Nov 2010 ♥ Approved: 18 Nov 2010

AP (I-131)Mailed: 21 Aug 2010 ♥ NOA: 2 Sept 2010 ♥ Approved: 20 Oct 2010

EAD (I-765)Mailed: 21 Aug 2010 ♥ NOA: 2 Sept 2010 ♥ Biometrics: 5 Oct 2010 ♥ Approved: 20 Oct 2010

ROC (I-751)Mailed: 6 Nov 2012 ♥ NOA: 7 Nov 2012 ♥ Biometrics: 5 Dec 2012 ♥ Approved: 15 May 2013

Naturalization (N-400)Mailed: 03 August 2015 ♥ NOA: 07 August 2015 ♥ Biometrics: 3 Sept 2015 ♥ Interview: 13 Nov 2015 ♥ Oath: 8 Dec '15

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Jamaica
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First of all, I am a she, not a he.

Secondly, the OP indicated that they were strongly considering lying, which is intentional immigration fraud, and against the law. The paragraph before the VJ TOS, I made a point to mention there are consequences beyond getting the visa or not for lying to USCIS or the DOS as far as immigration goes -- things that are stated on many of the forms.

With all the time and money my fiancé and I have spent getting him here legally, I find it utterly repugnant that someone would try to get around the law by lying, and quite frankly, posting the TOS was meant as a warning: if the OP were to submit either visa form and continue posting as though they were strongly considering lying to USCIS and the DOS, I would turn them in to USCIS for suspected visa fraud / misrepresentation. It's unfortunate that things like citizenship can and do stand in the way of being with one's loved one, and I may not agree with the way this country handles immigration (or non-immigration), but there's a right way and a wrong way to take care of that. Illegal entry and lying is the wrong way, and it infuriates me that they even considered willful misrepresentation as a legitimate tactic to get around an automatic denial/ban situation.

Finally, with regards to your last post: Jim had made it clear in his original post that if the lie was found out, there would be stiff consequences as far as the immigration was concerned (including a lifetime ban). That in of itself should have clued the OP in to the fact that lying is taken to be very seriously by USCIS and the DOS. But instead of focusing on the consequences for lying, the OP chose to ignore them and focus on the benefits of doing so. Some pointed out the issues with proving the bonafides should they leave out the previous illegal entry, others pointed out the issues with immigration that would result if they discovered it (and that it's easier than the OP may have thought to discover illegal entry), and I was merely pointing out that above and beyond the criminal aspects of what they were doing that VJ could be used against them in a legal sense, especially if they filled out their timeline / etc.

Yea they said she was going to lie, because at the time they DID NOT KNOW the consequences. I am not going down this path with you. You were right for mentioning it but not in the way you did. I never said you you wrong it HOW you said it, they did not know better.

09-21-2009 - Met for the first time

10-31-2009 - Visited for 5 days

12-30-2009 - visited for 11 days (informal engagement)

1-13-2010 - Mailed I129F Petition

1-15-2010 - Recieved NOA1

1-21-2010 - Touched

3-09-2010 - visiting for 6 days

3-12-2010 - Formal Engagement in Ochee

4-20-2010 - Recieved NOA2 (no previous touches)

4-22-2010 - NVC Recieved my Petition, Assigned New Case#

4-23-2010 - Case leaving NVC (have DHL tracking# so I can follow case to Kingston)

4-23-2010 - Recieved NOA2 (hard copy) in the mail

4-26-2010 - Kingston Embassy Recieved Petition (signed by Mr. Morgan)

4-25-2010 - visiting for 5 days

4-30-2010 - Kingston Embassy mailed out Packet# 3

5-3-2010 - E-Mailed Kingston Embassy DS-230

5-4-2010 - Embassy e-mailed interview date

5-26-2010 - Medical

6-6-2010 - Flying down for interview

6-8-2010 - INTERVIEW...APPROVED!!!!

6-23-2010 - VISA RECIEVED!!!

6-27-2010 - Flying down to Jamaica

06-30-2010 - POE (JFK)

09-25-2010 - WEDDING!!!

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