Bye Mitt

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Mitt Romney, April 11th, 2006: "Some of my libertarian friends balk at what looks like an individual mandate. But remember, someone has to pay for the health care that must, by law, be provided: Either the individual pays or the taxpayers pay. A free ride on government is not libertarian."

Like I said, I think Mitt's done. Unless Health Care Reform ends up having no part in the 2012 presidential election. And even if that's true, too much of the early spadework for the nomination will have to be done in the period where the GOP is the anti-Health Care Reform party.

It's like having to race the Indy 500 with your car backwards and driving in reverse. Just too much to overcome.

- Josh Marshall

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Lies! Romney didn't say that! The individual mandate based system in Mass is only called Romneycare by the liberal media! It's a dirty liberal lie propagated by dirty stinkin' hippies! In fact, the Mass system is a DEMOCRATIC system advocated for by a DEMOCRATIC governor. How do I know this? LOOK AT THE GODDAMN LAW, IT'S SOCIALIST!!!!!!!!!! Ergo, it must be Democratic. Why is this so hard for you to udnerstand, Steven? You must have teh stoopid.

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Lies! Romney didn't say that! The individual mandate based system in Mass is only called Romneycare by the liberal media! It's a dirty liberal lie propagated by dirty stinkin' hippies! In fact, the Mass system is a DEMOCRATIC system advocated for by a DEMOCRATIC governor. How do I know this? LOOK AT THE GODDAMN LAW, IT'S SOCIALIST!!!!!!!!!! Ergo, it must be Democratic. Why is this so hard for you to udnerstand, Steven? You must have teh stoopid.

Save your strength....Mitt's got zero chance in 2012 now...unless he comes out in favor of this health care bill that was signed into law (I'm still in disbelief...can't believe it finally happened )

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Save your strength....Mitt's got zero chance in 2012 now...unless he comes out in favor of this health care bill that was signed into law (I'm still in disbelief...can't believe it finally happened )

Don't get your hopes up, ya librul scumbag. It is nighttime here on the east coast and the wild and rabid Teabagger hordes are amassing as we speak. They shall attack (the local Cracker Barrel) at dawn.

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In all fairness, there's a HUGE difference in state-run vs. Federally run.

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In all fairness, there's a HUGE difference in state-run vs. Federally run.

Yes, that is the difference. However, the reasons an individual mandate make sense are the same. Romney's on record here. Wait no, he isn't... that librul imposter who goes by his name is. Damn identity thieves.

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In all fairness, there's a HUGE difference in state-run vs. Federally run.

The Commerce Clause gives power to the U.S. to regulate private insurance. I know that's what's at the heart of why some states Attorneys General have filed lawsuits, but I'm pretty certain SCOTUS will say that health insurance mandates are well within the jurisdiction of the Federal Government.

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The Commerce Clause gives power to the U.S. to regulate private insurance. I know that's what's at the heart of why some states Attorneys General have filed lawsuits, but I'm pretty certain SCOTUS will say that health insurance mandates are well within the jurisdiction of the Federal Government.

The individual mandate of citizens is what's over-reaching.

"Regulating" Insurance and "Mandating" individuals are two different things.

90% of the bill is consittutional. Making people buy something like that, is not.

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I think Mitt's done.

Mitt was done when he lost the republican nomination to the old man last year....the dems better start sweating Newt & a new contract with America.

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The individual mandate of citizens is what's over-reaching.

"Regulating" Insurance and "Mandating" individuals are two different things.

90% of the bill is consittutional. Making people buy something like that, is not.

Well, the constitutional scholars are pretty much saying these Attorneys General have about a snow ball's chance in hell that their lawsuits will amount to anything beyond chest beating.

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Most legal scholars who have considered the question of a requirement for individuals to purchase health coverage argue forcefully that the requirement is within Congress’ power to regulate interstate commerce. Take Professor Erwin Chemerinsky, a renowned constitutional law scholar, author of four popular treatises and casebooks on constitutional law, and Dean of the University of California Irvine School of Law. Professor Chemerinsky has gone so far to say that those arguing on the other side of the issue do not have “the slightest merit from a constitutional perspective.”

In arguing that a requirement to have health coverage falls within Congress’ power to regulate interstate commerce, Professor Chemerinsky compares health care reform to the case of Gonzales v. Raich — often cited by the other side.

In Gonzales v. Raich, the Supreme Court held that the Federal Government’s Commerce Clause powers extend to the cultivation and possession of small amounts of marijuana for personal use. Professor Chemerinsky notes that the relationship between health care coverage and the national economy is even clearer than the cultivation and possession involved in Gonzales v. Raich.

Edited March 24, 2010 by Galt's gallstones

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In all fairness, there's a HUGE difference in state-run vs. Federally run.

It might be different in the application of it, but not in the principle. Romney never really was a serious contender. He has spent a vast amount on his campaign infrastructure and that has propped his numbers up in the past year. The same questions about him would arise in 2012 that did in 2008. He is as gaffe prone as Joe Biden, and is of no substance or consequence. If he spent less time trying to comb his hair like Reagan and actually read up on policy issues, he wouldn't look like such a dolt whenever asked an off the cuff question.