Is there anything left for America to manufacture?

[FortLaudy 10]

My contributions are highly valuable as they highlight your inanity.

You're an idiot because I would not be in this country had I not entered on an F1 visa.

[chri'stina 190]

People do differ, that's my point. it's wrong Assuming that other countries cannot survive and Need what we have to offer - the stuff we invent and manufacture. they can do fine without.

You act like you really know about how the whole world works in terms of poverty. I don't know what qualifies you to think that just because you grew up in South Africa. I have to say I have rarely seen such an extreme 'survival of the fittest' attitude from someone before. I don't think that is a good thing. You are the one pushing your world view onto the rest of the world, a world view that I don't think is very helpful to anyone but yourself.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

.....all this arguing and here I want to talk about carbon mileage taxes

sorry bub but the mob has moved on

[Nina~ 431]

say something useful to the conversation or shut up

You assume that I think the Haitians are nobody. That's FAR from the truth. we're talking about overpopulation.

So what you are saying is that the western countries should stop providing antibiotics to the third world countries and let "nature take its course"?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

You act like you really know about how the whole world works in terms of poverty. I don't know what qualifies you to think that just because you grew up in South Africa. I have to say I have rarely seen such an extreme 'survival of the fittest' attitude from someone before. I don't think that is a good thing. You are the one pushing your world view onto the rest of the world, a world view that I don't think is very helpful to anyone but yourself.

Hey, it came in real handy in taking over south africa

[FortLaudy 10]

You act like you really know about how the whole world works in terms of poverty. I don't know what qualifies you to think that just because you grew up in South Africa. I have to say I have rarely seen such an extreme 'survival of the fittest' attitude from someone before. I don't think that is a good thing. You are the one pushing your world view onto the rest of the world, a world view that I don't think is very helpful to anyone but yourself.

I'm not pushing my world view, lol... I'm voicing my opinion on an immigration website, having a conversation with about 6 people.... LOL flattering, thanks.

So what you are saying is that the western countries should stop providing antibiotics to the third world countries and let "nature take its course"?

that aint going to happen... but it would've help curb overpopulation sure, isn't that obvious?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Why would smaller more dispersed factories use less resources? I actually can't think of any reasons. Transportation would use less resources, but the factories themselves wouldn't.

Even if local factories were more efficient, this is the kind of thinking that gets us into trouble. You've made a new tax to try and control the economy. But some businessman is going to figure out how to maximize his profits and he really doesn't care about anything else.

Someone could, for instance, mostly build the tires in China and then ship the parts to small "factories" dispersed throughout the US. Because the tires are produced locally, they will get the tax break. But the dirty manufacturing will mostly be done in China. This may almost seem ridiculous for auto tires, but the law would have to be very specific in order to control this process. And every time the law was adjusted, the tire companies would all get their tax lawyers and consultants together and make a new business plan to figure out how to maximize profits.

And tire construction is reasonably straight forward and a defined process. More complicated products would be even harder to regulate in this way. Trying to control business by taxing is like trying to hold Jello in your hand. The tighter you squeeze the more that leaks out the side, the less you are left with, and the worse the quality of the Jello that actually stays in your hand.

But what if the bill lists a manufactured good as anything but a raw materials such as timber, coal, iron ore etc. Example even steel would be a manufactured good, and vulcanized rubber.

I realize that loopholes will be found but they can be addressed. No economy has been devoid of control in the last 80 years or so.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

But what if the bill lists a manufactured good as anything but a raw materials such as timber, coal, iron ore etc. Example even steel would be a manufactured good, and vulcanized rubber.

I realize that loopholes will be found but they can be addressed. No economy has been devoid of control in the last 80 years or so.

lol i'm so old school...we don't even use vulcanized rubber in tyres anymore do we?

Edited January 27, 2010 by Sousuke

[Peikko 1,575]

You're an idiot because I would not be in this country had I not entered on an F1 visa.

You're an idiot for 1) expecting me to know or care where you live or how you come to be there and 2) because your insights into world problems display a complete lack of educated response.

[FortLaudy 10]

You're an idiot for 1) expecting me to know or care where you live or how you come to be there and 2) because your insights into world problems display a complete lack of educated response.

I'm yet to read an educated response from you, all you do is throw out insults at random and spend all day on VJ.

[Peikko 1,575]

That somehow justifies your stupidity? Stranger and stranger.

[FortLaudy 10]

That somehow justifies your stupidity? Stranger and stranger.

Go hit the gym or do something useful, sitting on VJ all day dishing out and receiving insults is just making you more bitter every day.

[Peikko 1,575]

Go hit the gym or do something useful, sitting on VJ all day dishing out and receiving insults is just making you more bitter every day.

Ah, trying the 'guess the mood of the poster' game. You're not very good.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

sorry bub but the mob has moved on

Visa Journey is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of VJ is not the upper forums, it's the mud of the OT. We bring them insults - and they love us for it.

Edited January 27, 2010 by Sousuke

[FortLaudy 10]

Ah, trying the 'guess the mood of the poster' game. You're not very good.

Actually I think I'm pretty close and you know it. Whatever, I'm done with personal insults for the day. Give that a shot some time and get out there and get yourself a real life.

Edited January 27, 2010 by Shani682