All-American Basketball Alliance - for white Americans only

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

My point exactly.

The Constitution allows for freedom of association. Let the White guys have their league.

Your tax dollars at work:

Black Caucus: Whites Not Allowed

By: Josephine Hearn

January 22, 2007 01:01 PM EST

As a white liberal running in a majority African American district, Tennessee Democrat Stephen I. Cohen made a novel pledge on the campaign trail last year: If elected, he would seek to become the first white member of the Congressional Black Caucus.

Now that he's a freshman in Congress, Cohen has changed his plans. He said he has dropped his bid after several current and former caucus members made it clear to him that whites need not apply.

"I think they're real happy I'm not going to join," said Cohen, who succeeded Rep. Harold Ford, D-Tenn., in the Memphis district. "It's their caucus and they do things their way. You don't force your way in. You need to be invited."

Cohen said he became convinced that joining the caucus would be "a social faux pas" after seeing news reports that former Rep. William Lacy Clay Sr., D-Mo., a co-founder of the caucus, had circulated a memo telling members it was "critical" that the group remain "exclusively African-American."

Other members, including the new chairwoman, Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, D-Mich., and Clay's son, Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-Mo., agreed.

"Mr. Cohen asked for admission, and he got his answer. ... It's time to move on," the younger Clay said. "It's an unwritten rule. It's understood. It's clear."

The bylaws of the caucus do not make race a prerequisite for membership, a House aide said, but no non-black member has ever joined.

Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., who is white, tried in 1975 when he was a sophomore representative and the group was only six years old.

"Half my Democratic constituents were African American. I felt we had interests in common as far as helping people in poverty," Stark said. "They had a vote, and I lost. They said the issue was that I was white, and they felt it was important that the group be limited to African Americans."

Cohen remains hopeful, though, that he can forge relationships with black members in other ways.

"When I saw the reticence, I didn't want anyone to misunderstand my motives. Politically, it was the right thing to do," he said. "There are other ways to gain fellowship with people I respect."

Cohen won his seat in the 60 percent black district as the only white candidate in a crowded primary field. If he faces a primary challenge next year from a black candidate, as expected, some Black Caucus members may work to defeat him.

A similar situation arose in 2004 after redistricting added more black voters to the Houston district of former Rep. Chris Bell, D-Texas.

Although House tradition discourages members of the same party from working against each other, about a dozen black lawmakers contributed to Bell's opponent, Rep. Al Green, D-Texas, the eventual victor. Even Bell's Houston neighbor, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, campaigned against him.

One black member who criticized his colleagues for sandbagging Bell was Cohen's predecessor, Harold Ford.

"You have an incumbent, and you don't support an incumbent? It was inappropriate," Ford told Congressional Quarterly in 2004.

Cohen has won high marks for hiring African Americans. A majority of his staff is African American, he said, including his chief of staff.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Once again, if you're prepared to ignore context behind these things then all things become relative.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

What are you on? Styles of play are interesting, and there is nothing wrong with deciding you want to revert to 'original rule' play, if that's what you want to do. However, this isn't simply a question of changing the game rules but excluding a section of society becase in your opinion they are culturally unable to play by those rules. That's bullshit and you know it.

Chill out, MC. I'm not arguing in favor of segregation. I merely was pointing out the history of how the game play has changed...for the better. Apparently, there's some real old timers out there, or just racists, who resent black player's contribution to the game of basketball. To them, I'd suggest going back to its purest form, using only a bushel basket hoisted onto the top of pole.

[Danno 1,228]

Once again, if you're prepared to ignore context behind these things then all things become relative.

Of course it's "Context", how redundant man.

[alienlovechild 75]

RACISM in this country is extremely terrible....Advanced country, yet majority of the people here particularly whites still have backward thinking...Advanced into technologies, etc. BUT socially uncivilized....Geeez , what a shame...Until this time they can't still accept mixed race ....I better just moved to other State where there is highly populated mixed race because of their social civility coz State with lack of racial mix population looked down of non-americans....

You're pretty unlucky as there no non-Americans or racially mixed couples on this forum to ever experience racism here.

Good luck in finding another state where those problems don't follow you and look up the polls/U.S. Census figures on interracial couples.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Of course it's "Context", how redundant man.

Then why are you ignoring the context of one thing Vs. another?

[ruby_7 45]

You're pretty unlucky as there no non-Americans or racially mixed couples on this forum to ever experience racism here.

Good luck in finding another state where those problems don't follow you and look up the polls/U.S. Census figures on interracial couples.

Somewhere in Ohio, where most people here in my location can't accept the fact of having a black Pres...that's the bad thing of living in a non-major city which is mostly populated by whites....Well, Ohio is in the middle of somewhere anyway if u look at the map, so what do u expect, it's not even a popular state....Duh ! lol....I really hate living this State because it's very less diverse...major cities like Cleveland, columbus, & Cincinnati are very okay because of plenty of racial mixed but elsewhere Geezzzz...old folks backward thinking...Although Obama won in this State but it doesn't mean it is a highly mixed race unlike in big major cities in other States in US...Sooner or later, time will come we can get out from this State (my USC doesnt like it here too) but right now it's not a wise decision to move out because of the ill economy....

[Peikko 1,575]

Chill out, MC. I'm not arguing in favor of segregation. I merely was pointing out the history of how the game play has changed...for the better. Apparently, there's some real old timers out there, or just racists, who resent black player's contribution to the game of basketball. To them, I'd suggest going back to its purest form, using only a bushel basket hoisted onto the top of pole.

When will you learn that I don't get uptight? Or is that just you being cute

I agree, nothing wrong with playing a game in its purest form, if that's your pecadillo, but not based on some spurious notion that only white people know how to behave in a civilized manner.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

When will you learn that I don't get uptight? Or is that just you being cute

I agree, nothing wrong with playing a game in its purest form, if that's your pecadillo, but not based on some spurious notion that only white people know how to behave in a civilized manner.

Too much of this sort of thing goes on in basketball courts across the land.

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[Danno 1,228]

Somewhere in Ohio, where most people here in my location can't accept the fact of having a black Pres...that's the bad thing of living in a non-major city which is mostly populated by whites...

What evidence do you have which causes you to say such a thing about the people of Ohio?

[Danno 1,228]

Then why are you ignoring the context of one thing Vs. another?

Hunt your "context" disclaimer is wore-out.

Either articulate why you hold a double standard better or get a new line.

I'm just sayin,

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Hunt your "context" disclaimer is wore-out.

Either articulate why you hold a double standard better or get a new line.

I'm just sayin,

Because you say so? Piss off

[Danno 1,228]

Because you say so? Piss off

Actually I am "pissing on".... all over your head.

B)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You wish, Danno.

As I said - You see double standards because you refuse to understand history and socio-political realities.

Of course, I haven't said anywhere that this guy should be barred from making his "Whites only" basketball league. He has the right to do what he wants - but we can place bets on how successful it won't be

[Danno 1,228]

You wish, Danno.

As I said - You see double standards because you refuse to understand history and socio-political realities.

Of course, I haven't said anywhere that this guy should be barred from making his "Whites only" basketball league. He has the right to do what he wants - but we can place bets on how successful it won't be

Still missing the point Hunt.

Here, I'll slow down for you.

The hypocrisy is .....you see a Black Police association in the middle of detroit as fine but not a White Police Association... even though the White Policemen are the minority.

Hunt: You have to understand the "context".

Danno: yeah, I got that part from you 2 years ago.