Question concerning approval notice and a few other things:

[robertwdalton 0]

Question concerning approval notice and a few other things:

At our first interview we were requested to supply additional information about relatives of my fiancée that live her in the US. We were also asked to provide a notarized timeline as well as information about my ex-wife who I have not seen or heard from for over twenty years.

We supplied the information requested but were denied a visa because they thought the relationship between my fiancée and myself was a sham

Even though we had an engagement ceremony that felt that since I had mad only one trip to Vietnam this was not evidence of a bona-fide relationship

Two other reasons cited for the denial were that even though we submitted numerous emails as proof of an ongoing relationship my fiancé could not recite back to them what my email address was. (She did not have this memorized because she usually jut hit the reply button when sending me an email)

The also stated that she was not aware of what our wedding plans were. She told them we could not make plans until we were issued a visa.

We will concede that we were not as prepared for the interview as we should have been. I did not learn about Visa Journey till after our interview. Now we are much more aware of what to expect.

Our case was sent back to the USCIS and the Vermont Service Center reviewed it and re-affirmed our petition. We did not file a rebuttal though we planned to do so. We were waiting to hear form the USCIS about what we must do when on June 5th we received a notice of action that our case was re-affirmed. The NOA notice stated that the approval was valid from 06/05/2009 thru 10/05/2009

We were told that our case was forwarded to the Consulate in HCMC on July 13, 2009

We had written several emails to the Consulate asking for the status of our petition. They at first stated that they did not yet receive our re-affirmed petition. In fact after several emails mostly auto responses over the course of several months, we finally received an email on October 12, 2009 confirming that they have received our re-affirmed petition and that they will be mailing out packet 3. This email came five days after our apprioval notice expired.

We received packet 3 and have sent the necessary documents (DS230-Part1 etc; etc via email and have received a confirmation from the Consulate on December 3, 2009 saying that they have received our documents and that they will be scheduling an interview date and that we can contact them at the end of each month for further information about the appointment date.

OK here are our questions:

1) The NOA notice stated that the approval was valid from 06/05/2009 thru 10/05/2009. Should we be concerned about this?

2) We are much more prepared this time around as we have had an ongoing relationship for 3 and half years now. I have made another trip to Vietnam in 2009 and I will make another trip to Vietnam to be with my fiancée when she has her interview. My question is since we did not file a rebuttal how do I get our updated timeline which is far more informative with all the details of our relationship in the hands of the Consulate prior to our interview.

3) We feel that we can address the concerns that they had in our first interview but are worried that they will not ask to see our evidence. How can we prove to them that our relationship is real if they simply asked one or two trick questions to try and confuse you and make you misspeak and give an inaccurate answer? I worry about this because my fiancée get nervous easily and can maybe misunderstand and reply incorrectly to the question.

4) Lastly, I have read here that a lot of time the decision to approve or disapprove a visa is determined before the interview. People can see the blue or pink slip while being interviewed. This makes me worried. If a case is re-affirmed do they not have to give you a chance to address their previous concerns before making a decision? Since we have not filed a rebuttal, our only chance to supply new and improved evidence is at our interview.

5) We are so worried we are wondering if anyone has had a similar experience and can share with us

Thanks, Robert and Mai

[BinhJerome 14]

Question concerning approval notice and a few other things:

At our first interview we were requested to supply additional information about relatives of my fiancée that live her in the US. We were also asked to provide a notarized timeline as well as information about my ex-wife who I have not seen or heard from for over twenty years.

We supplied the information requested but were denied a visa because they thought the relationship between my fiancée and myself was a sham

Even though we had an engagement ceremony that felt that since I had mad only one trip to Vietnam this was not evidence of a bona-fide relationship

Two other reasons cited for the denial were that even though we submitted numerous emails as proof of an ongoing relationship my fiancé could not recite back to them what my email address was. (She did not have this memorized because she usually jut hit the reply button when sending me an email)

The also stated that she was not aware of what our wedding plans were. She told them we could not make plans until we were issued a visa.

We will concede that we were not as prepared for the interview as we should have been. I did not learn about Visa Journey till after our interview. Now we are much more aware of what to expect.

Our case was sent back to the USCIS and the Vermont Service Center reviewed it and re-affirmed our petition. We did not file a rebuttal though we planned to do so. We were waiting to hear form the USCIS about what we must do when on June 5th we received a notice of action that our case was re-affirmed. The NOA notice stated that the approval was valid from 06/05/2009 thru 10/05/2009

We were told that our case was forwarded to the Consulate in HCMC on July 13, 2009

We had written several emails to the Consulate asking for the status of our petition. They at first stated that they did not yet receive our re-affirmed petition. In fact after several emails mostly auto responses over the course of several months, we finally received an email on October 12, 2009 confirming that they have received our re-affirmed petition and that they will be mailing out packet 3. This email came five days after our apprioval notice expired.

We received packet 3 and have sent the necessary documents (DS230-Part1 etc; etc via email and have received a confirmation from the Consulate on December 3, 2009 saying that they have received our documents and that they will be scheduling an interview date and that we can contact them at the end of each month for further information about the appointment date.

OK here are our questions:

1) The NOA notice stated that the approval was valid from 06/05/2009 thru 10/05/2009. Should we be concerned about this?

2) We are much more prepared this time around as we have had an ongoing relationship for 3 and half years now. I have made another trip to Vietnam in 2009 and I will make another trip to Vietnam to be with my fiancée when she has her interview. My question is since we did not file a rebuttal how do I get our updated timeline which is far more informative with all the details of our relationship in the hands of the Consulate prior to our interview.

3) We feel that we can address the concerns that they had in our first interview but are worried that they will not ask to see our evidence. How can we prove to them that our relationship is real if they simply asked one or two trick questions to try and confuse you and make you misspeak and give an inaccurate answer? I worry about this because my fiancée get nervous easily and can maybe misunderstand and reply incorrectly to the question.

4) Lastly, I have read here that a lot of time the decision to approve or disapprove a visa is determined before the interview. People can see the blue or pink slip while being interviewed. This makes me worried. If a case is re-affirmed do they not have to give you a chance to address their previous concerns before making a decision? Since we have not filed a rebuttal, our only chance to supply new and improved evidence is at our interview.

5) We are so worried we are wondering if anyone has had a similar experience and can share with us

Thanks, Robert and Mai

Robert, do not worry about it being expired, since they just got it and the delay was not on your part, about them not looking at the evidence if they do not look at it you can submit it at the window the next day and if you submit it they have to take it. They might not look at it, but it will then be in your file, so when you have your interview this time, if there are ANY papers they do not keep, give them to them. They will have to accept it. You could have done this when you submitted the evidence they requested when they gave you the blue slip the first time around, and it will be the same situation this time, you just take the things you feel are important that they did not keep (chat logs, emails, photos etc etc etc) and turn them in like you were turning in evidence that they requested. This is what Fred did after he tapped on the glass. Do not worry about the new case, with Vermont saying hey this looks legit, the CO might not really have much of a choice unless they found something out they did not mention in the first denial, and your interview this time around will surely be what gets you the visa or not, but at that time you have the chance to present new evidence or get them to look at the old evidence. You might get a blue first time around because it is a reaffirmed case and they will want to investigate your relationship again, but this is pure speculation. Good luck this time Jerome and Binh

[Bernie C 24]

Question concerning approval notice and a few other things:

At our first interview we were requested to supply additional information about relatives of my fiancée that live her in the US. We were also asked to provide a notarized timeline as well as information about my ex-wife who I have not seen or heard from for over twenty years.

We supplied the information requested but were denied a visa because they thought the relationship between my fiancée and myself was a sham

Even though we had an engagement ceremony that felt that since I had mad only one trip to Vietnam this was not evidence of a bona-fide relationship

Two other reasons cited for the denial were that even though we submitted numerous emails as proof of an ongoing relationship my fiancé could not recite back to them what my email address was. (She did not have this memorized because she usually jut hit the reply button when sending me an email)

The also stated that she was not aware of what our wedding plans were. She told them we could not make plans until we were issued a visa.

We will concede that we were not as prepared for the interview as we should have been. I did not learn about Visa Journey till after our interview. Now we are much more aware of what to expect.

Our case was sent back to the USCIS and the Vermont Service Center reviewed it and re-affirmed our petition. We did not file a rebuttal though we planned to do so. We were waiting to hear form the USCIS about what we must do when on June 5th we received a notice of action that our case was re-affirmed. The NOA notice stated that the approval was valid from 06/05/2009 thru 10/05/2009

We were told that our case was forwarded to the Consulate in HCMC on July 13, 2009

We had written several emails to the Consulate asking for the status of our petition. They at first stated that they did not yet receive our re-affirmed petition. In fact after several emails mostly auto responses over the course of several months, we finally received an email on October 12, 2009 confirming that they have received our re-affirmed petition and that they will be mailing out packet 3. This email came five days after our apprioval notice expired.

We received packet 3 and have sent the necessary documents (DS230-Part1 etc; etc via email and have received a confirmation from the Consulate on December 3, 2009 saying that they have received our documents and that they will be scheduling an interview date and that we can contact them at the end of each month for further information about the appointment date.

OK here are our questions:

1) The NOA notice stated that the approval was valid from 06/05/2009 thru 10/05/2009. Should we be concerned about this?

2) We are much more prepared this time around as we have had an ongoing relationship for 3 and half years now. I have made another trip to Vietnam in 2009 and I will make another trip to Vietnam to be with my fiancée when she has her interview. My question is since we did not file a rebuttal how do I get our updated timeline which is far more informative with all the details of our relationship in the hands of the Consulate prior to our interview.

3) We feel that we can address the concerns that they had in our first interview but are worried that they will not ask to see our evidence. How can we prove to them that our relationship is real if they simply asked one or two trick questions to try and confuse you and make you misspeak and give an inaccurate answer? I worry about this because my fiancée get nervous easily and can maybe misunderstand and reply incorrectly to the question.

4) Lastly, I have read here that a lot of time the decision to approve or disapprove a visa is determined before the interview. People can see the blue or pink slip while being interviewed. This makes me worried. If a case is re-affirmed do they not have to give you a chance to address their previous concerns before making a decision? Since we have not filed a rebuttal, our only chance to supply new and improved evidence is at our interview.

5) We are so worried we are wondering if anyone has had a similar experience and can share with us

Thanks, Robert and Mai

Robert - In regards to Question 2, I had our timeline of relationship notarized and then emailed it to the consulate about three weeks prior to the interview. This way it was updated to just prior to my return. I did receicve a confirmation from the consulte that they received it (The email said they cannot review it - only a CO can review it). This is all I wanted, was to get it in my file prior to the interview. I also told them in the email that Doan would bring the original notarized copy with her. At the interview, they never even asked for the original. This pretty much conrimed to me that the timeline was received and looked (that is my opinion).

Good luch to both of you - it sounds like your much more preparred this time around - hang in their and be strong for Mai - if your hearts remain strong you will be together in the end.

Best Wishes and Happy Holidays - Bernie and Doan