Ohio Senator response from CSC

[vartan 0]

There are many stories but here is one report.

http://www.nilc.org/immlawpolicy/obtainlpr/oblpr087.htm

WOW

[William33 110]

If that were actually true, and it does seem possible - I would only say the following: Get a rope!!!

You have got to be shitt!ng me!! CSC was cited for shredded petitions? Was that documented somewhere?

Can you please supply a link to that? This seems difficult to believe. Really dude, let's see the link....

Since I have been involved with this visa process, I have witnessed one screw up after another. When I first started, the TSC was taking 250 days and beyond to do anything with petitions. Then the CSC was cited for shredding entire application packets. It just never ends, the government incompetence and lack of accountability astounds me. I have worked closely with government agencies so this is no surprise but the USCIS is probably government bureaucracy at its absolute worst. I am almost done with this mess for a while but have a friend waiting for the CSC to approve his application so he can endure another 5-6 months of waiting for the Manila nightmare to end.

Marilyn and Peter.

There are many stories but here is one report.

http://www.nilc.org/immlawpolicy/obtainlpr/oblpr087.htm

[vartan 0]

If that were actually true, and it does seem possible - I would only say the following: Get a rope!!!

I say lock them in a room with the petitioners and beneficiaries.. Or hell even us.. we weren't there.. but .. ya.. you know.

[Yodrak 7]

joseph,

I am implying no such thing. You are the one who wrote, "What SHOULD be happeing is petitions get processed in order of NOA1 date IF there RFE comes in."

I am saying what a difficult and continuous process this would be, re-sorting the petitions back into "order of NOA1 date" every time a new batch of RFEs is received back. Better to spend the resources processing cases than shuffling them.

Yodrak

joseph,

....My July 5th RFE is now underneath a stack of May petitions who's RFE's reached the office on July 4th. THAT is unfair.

I disagree. The petitions began processing in the order that they were received. That's all the Receipt Date promises you. RFE's were found to be required. Those that came back first and were ready to continue processing first should get back into processing first. There's no reason why the cases that were ready to resume processing on July 4 (you picked the holiday date, not me) should not resume processing on July 4. They should not have to be left aside and wait to resume processing in anticipation that your case, with an earlier Receipt Date, would come the next day. They're ready today, get started on them today or as soon as possible.

Beyond that, the time and resources that would be lost if the cases had to be continuously re-ordered as the RFEs come in to put them back into the original Receipt Date order, as you propose, would be enormous. Again, we are not talking about a relative few RFEs - we are talking about every case that came in over a period of months being an RFE case. Every time a new batch of RFEs came out of the mail room the case order would have to be re-shuffled. That time and effort would be much better spent processing the cases. Again, to get the most cases processed in the least amount of time they need to be processed in the order that they become ready to be processed.

Yodrak

You are implying that the most EFFECTIVE and FAIR way to handle this is to put everyone, March/April/May/June NOA1's back at the same starting point for processing when their RFE returns are literally days apart! Do you think they started processing them the first day they got one back? I highly doubt it. Of course no petition should be waiting for processing when they sent their RFE in just because someone before them did not.

That is not the point. The point is that many RFE's were sent in within a few days of each other, 1000's perhaps, then it DOESNT make sense to do anything but retain the original NOA1's for that lot. If they got it on July 4th, sure, start the processing before the July 5th. But when you are done with it, you shouldnt go to a July 4th that was a June NOA1, when there is March NOA1 right underneath with a July 5th RFE return. The organization of this is very very simple. This is the message that Senator's continuously conveyed when RFE's first started pouring out in mass numbers.

You dont solve a giant problem by putting everything in one basket again. Just because every case that came in over the course of several months became an RFE case at the same time does not imply that they now be considered equals in the processing timeline. Whats so difficult about putting a petition with an earlier reciept date on top of another in the que if neither have yet been processed.

It almost feels to me that people who havent been waiting a full 120 days or more already are suddenly starting to think this is some sort of free for all because they were lucky enough to get an RFE issued a day or two before others. ....well....unfortunately perhaps it is. These are my opinions and for sake of argument. Truth be told, none of us know at all until some NOA2's come out. I think we've been proven to many times that CSC doesnt operate the way one may or may not expect. I appreciate the debate though, and hope i can laugh about a few months from now.