Question about N-400 based on marriage and the Supportive Evidence..

[Sweetgirl 0]

Hi everyone!

I have a question about the N-400 form . Actually its not a time for me to file it yet.,as i am gonna file it in a 6 month only.,but still very curious about the following..

When i am going to file the N-400 form based on the marriage to the U.S Citizen.,what kind of evidence should i include together with the form?

Do i have to include the same type of evidence as with the I-751 Removing conditons application?

Evidence that we are residing together as joint bank accounts,bills,car insurances,Affidavits, pictures ,joint tax returns,joint homeownerships and etc... all over again???...

I appreciate your concern.

Sincerely.

Thanks.

[meauxna 15]

Hi everyone!

I have a question about the N-400 form . Actually its not a time for me to file it yet.,as i am gonna file it in a 6 month only.,but still very curious about the following..

When i am going to file the N-400 form based on the marriage to the U.S Citizen.,what kind of evidence should i include together with the form?

Do i have to include the same type of evidence as with the I-751 Removing conditons application?

Evidence that we are residing together as joint bank accounts,bills,car insurances,Affidavits, pictures ,joint tax returns,joint homeownerships and etc... all over again???...

I appreciate your concern.

Sincerely.

Thanks.

Sweetg,

The evidence for N-400 is very minimal. You are requried to present your income tax returns, so that is one evidence of your joint life. They also will have everything from your I-751 in the file, and the determination about the validity of your marriage has already been settled by that point (N-400).

We sent exactly what the application asked for and my DAH was asked to confirm at the interview that we were still together and had not separated. He was asked to show evidence of that and produced an old envelope addressed to us both. I sent him into the interview with several key documents 'just in case'.

Read through the list of requirements and you'll find that there will be docs in there that support your joint living/marriage situation.

[Sweetgirl 0]

Hi everyone!

I have a question about the N-400 form . Actually its not a time for me to file it yet.,as i am gonna file it in a 6 month only.,but still very curious about the following..

When i am going to file the N-400 form based on the marriage to the U.S Citizen.,what kind of evidence should i include together with the form?

Do i have to include the same type of evidence as with the I-751 Removing conditons application?

Evidence that we are residing together as joint bank accounts,bills,car insurances,Affidavits, pictures ,joint tax returns,joint homeownerships and etc... all over again???...

I appreciate your concern.

Sincerely.

Thanks.

Sweetg,

The evidence for N-400 is very minimal. You are requried to present your income tax returns, so that is one evidence of your joint life. They also will have everything from your I-751 in the file, and the determination about the validity of your marriage has already been settled by that point (N-400).

We sent exactly what the application asked for and my DAH was asked to confirm at the interview that we were still together and had not separated. He was asked to show evidence of that and produced an old envelope addressed to us both. I sent him into the interview with several key documents 'just in case'.

Read through the list of requirements and you'll find that there will be docs in there that support your joint living/marriage situation.

Hi Meauxna!

Thank you for clarifying that for me! ,but i didnt understand as what do you mean by that the officer produced the old envelope adressed to both of you? What kind of envelope is that??? Was the envelope given to you at the time of an interview or it has been mailed to your home adress? What was in the envelope?....

Confused.....

Thanks.

Sincerely.

[meauxna 15]

Hi Meauxna!

Thank you for clarifying that for me! ,but i didnt understand as what do you mean by that the officer produced the old envelope adressed to both of you? What kind of envelope is that??? Was the envelope given to you at the time of an interview or it has been mailed to your home adress? What was in the envelope?....

Confused.....

Thanks.

Sincerely.

Sorry, too many pronouns. My husband was asked to show some evidence of us living at the same address. He (my husband) showed an envelope from our mortgage broker that was addressed to both our names (husband and mine). Nothing in the envelope, just to show that we both lived at the same address.

(the officer was a woman, btw)

[lucyrich 19]

Did you initially get your green card based on marriage? It seems likely, but someone might get LPR status based on employment, and nevertheless use a marriage to a USC to reduce the continuous residence requirement for naturalization. In that kind of case, the USCIS may never have made any sort of determination on the validity of the marriage, and it might be wise to give them all the evidence that a marriage-based visa couple would provide.

The legal requirement for the 3-year shortcut on the continuous residence requirement is that you be living together in valid marital union until citizenship is granted.

In practice, I don't know how much they check, and what level of evidence is required. In theory, if they've already found your marriage to be valid, all they need to determine is that you're still living together in valid marital union. My guess is a little bit of evidence covering the time period since they last looked at your marriage would suffice, but that's just a guess, and certainly not advice. Showing evidence of a shared address would certainly seem to be in line with the law's wording of "living together in valid marital union".

I remember reading that the "living together in valid marital union" requirement really does apply up until the citizenship oath. Courts have ruled that if the US Citizen spouse dies at any time before citizenship is received (even AFTER the N-400 is approved), the couple is no longer "living together in valid marital union", so the 3-year shortcut on the continuous residence requirement is no longer available. This is through no fault of the alien, and nobody ever said the marriage wasn't bona fide. But the marriage has to continue until citizenship is granted.

Also, the couple can't be living apart during the three years, even if the marriage is bona fide.

[Sweetgirl 0]

Hi Meauxna!

Thank you for clarifying that for me! ,but i didnt understand as what do you mean by that the officer produced the old envelope adressed to both of you? What kind of envelope is that??? Was the envelope given to you at the time of an interview or it has been mailed to your home adress? What was in the envelope?....

Confused.....

Thanks.

Sincerely.

Sorry, too many pronouns. My husband was asked to show some evidence of us living at the same address. He (my husband) showed an envelope from our mortgage broker that was addressed to both our names (husband and mine). Nothing in the envelope, just to show that we both lived at the same address.

(the officer was a woman, btw)

Thank you for the clarification Meauxna!

My best wishes to both of you!

Sincerely.

[Sweetgirl 0]

Did you initially get your green card based on marriage? It seems likely, but someone might get LPR status based on employment, and nevertheless use a marriage to a USC to reduce the continuous residence requirement for naturalization. In that kind of case, the USCIS may never have made any sort of determination on the validity of the marriage, and it might be wise to give them all the evidence that a marriage-based visa couple would provide.

The legal requirement for the 3-year shortcut on the continuous residence requirement is that you be living together in valid marital union until citizenship is granted.

In practice, I don't know how much they check, and what level of evidence is required. In theory, if they've already found your marriage to be valid, all they need to determine is that you're still living together in valid marital union. My guess is a little bit of evidence covering the time period since they last looked at your marriage would suffice, but that's just a guess, and certainly not advice. Showing evidence of a shared address would certainly seem to be in line with the law's wording of "living together in valid marital union".

I remember reading that the "living together in valid marital union" requirement really does apply up until the citizenship oath. Courts have ruled that if the US Citizen spouse dies at any time before citizenship is received (even AFTER the N-400 is approved), the couple is no longer "living together in valid marital union", so the 3-year shortcut on the continuous residence requirement is no longer available. This is through no fault of the alien, and nobody ever said the marriage wasn't bona fide. But the marriage has to continue until citizenship is granted.

Also, the couple can't be living apart during the three years, even if the marriage is bona fide.

Hi Luciruch!

Yeah,my Conditions have just recently been Removed ,so i just decided to put N/A on my profile since that happened .

Also,thank you for your answer too !. I am also curious about if the new Affidavits from the same Friends and Relatives would be the necessary thing to file with the N-400 again?

As that would seem kinda weard to ask the friends and relatives to write the same kind of affidavits about our marriage all over again and again

Maybe ,just the joint evidence as bills,credit cards,ownerhips and tax returns would be ehough to file with the N-400 form? Also we are thinking to submit a new portion of the pictures of us together from the moment of the 10 year Card approval to the moment of filing the N-400. ,thus for the additional 6 month period.

Thanks.

Sincerely.