Hezbollah: USA is next

[CanGal 1]

If this were all the case then things could get real ugly sooner than we may like them too ...

[mercuryroad 0]

Based on their recent activities I suppose invasion wouldn't be out of question.

I would say invasion would be out of the question. I don't think they have the means to do that. At least not like an air strike or anything like that. We would (and should) shoot their butts out of the sky or blow them out of the water (if coming by sea) if they try to step foot on land here.

It's not possible

I would say that in my opinion, all tactics all lead to the same road. They know themselves that their group is not large enough nor does it have enough power to kill all of the civilians in the West.

Instead, they attempt to get in good with governments that may be able to excercise more power and gain better weaponry. The ultimate goal would be to get nuclear weapons because that evens the playing field.

The other method this group will use will be to incite a nation into military action, thereby forcing their hand and drawing more countries into this conflict. The only way to "dethrone" the U.S. and Israel would be to remove them as a world power. Involving the U.S. in a large scale war would suck up our resources and resolve. Their hope would be to pull Russia, China and some other countries into the conflict. These countries however could stand the most to gain. If the rest of the world is busy destroying itself, they will be around for the rewards. WWII did wonders for the U.S. economy and really solidified us as a power in the international community. The same could be done for China.

Either way, the only way to get where they want to go is to remove the U.S. as the world's major superpower and I believe that is their ultimate goal.

Is their objective to invade America? Or do they mean if we go there?

Based on their recent activities I suppose invasion wouldn't be out of question.

These extremist Islamic organizations can be really hyperbolic sometimes... if they can get a couple of guys on a flight into JFK with no weapons at all, they'd probably call that an invasion.

Nah....they'll come in from Canada and take some fisherman hostage off of Lake Superior.

*smirk* And maybe blow up some firecrackers (it'll be the 4th of July but they won't mention that on their jihadi recruiting videos) and call it The Attack on The Great Lakes!

Yes, the Great Fakes attack the Great Lakes.

"2 fisherman and a 28 lbs walleye were abducted today...."

CNN is attempting to verify the weight of the walleye.

[CanGal 1]

Either way, the only way to get where they want to go is to remove the U.S. as the world's major superpower and I believe that is their ultimate goal.

I too also believe that this is one of their main priorities or goals if you prefer that word.

Question: Is it not true as well that the word America to them just doesn't mean the united states but just the majority of north america in general? I just knew someone who used to teach in an American instituted school in Gaza and she had to come back and she said that American is pretty much "White Race" as in Canadian, Americans are all alike....accept that yes that the US is seen as the superpower of all of them, canadians included and if they can take them out then well we all know what goes from there ...

[Veiled Princess 1]

Instead, they attempt to get in good with governments that may be able to excercise more power and gain better weaponry. The ultimate goal would be to get nuclear weapons because that evens the playing field.

The other method this group will use will be to incite a nation into military action, thereby forcing their hand and drawing more countries into this conflict. The only way to "dethrone" the U.S. and Israel would be to remove them as a world power. Involving the U.S. in a large scale war would suck up our resources and resolve. Their hope would be to pull Russia, China and some other countries into the conflict. These countries however could stand the most to gain. If the rest of the world is busy destroying itself, they will be around for the rewards. WWII did wonders for the U.S. economy and really solidified us as a power in the international community. The same could be done for China.

Either way, the only way to get where they want to go is to remove the U.S. as the world's major superpower and I believe that is their ultimate goal.

And just how likely is this to happen? China and Russia joining them I mean? And can you provide links to actual proof? Thanks

Question: Is it not true as well that the word America to them just doesn't mean the united states but just the majority of north america in general? I just knew someone who used to teach in an American instituted school in Gaza and she had to come back and she said that American is pretty much "White Race" as in Canadian, Americans are all alike....accept that yes that the US is seen as the superpower of all of them, canadians included and if they can take them out then well we all know what goes from there ...

I think America is pretty much "the west"

[mawilson 2,133]

Based on their recent activities I suppose invasion wouldn't be out of question.

I would say invasion would be out of the question. I don't think they have the means to do that. At least not like an air strike or anything like that. We would (and should) shoot their butts out of the sky or blow them out of the water (if coming by sea) if they try to step foot on land here.

It's not possible

I would say that in my opinion, all tactics all lead to the same road. They know themselves that their group is not large enough nor does it have enough power to kill all of the civilians in the West.

Instead, they attempt to get in good with governments that may be able to excercise more power and gain better weaponry. The ultimate goal would be to get nuclear weapons because that evens the playing field.

The other method this group will use will be to incite a nation into military action, thereby forcing their hand and drawing more countries into this conflict. The only way to "dethrone" the U.S. and Israel would be to remove them as a world power. Involving the U.S. in a large scale war would suck up our resources and resolve. Their hope would be to pull Russia, China and some other countries into the conflict. These countries however could stand the most to gain. If the rest of the world is busy destroying itself, they will be around for the rewards. WWII did wonders for the U.S. economy and really solidified us as a power in the international community. The same could be done for China.

Either way, the only way to get where they want to go is to remove the U.S. as the world's major superpower and I believe that is their ultimate goal.

We just need to invade and change regimes in Iran and Syria -- we already control every

other country in the Middle East (Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, etc - even Libya

is our "friend" now.)

If the kidnapped Israeli soldiers are taken across the border to Iran, Israel will most definitely

launch air strikes at that country.....clearly, Iran would retaliate which would give the US / EU

a perfect excuse to invade and take care of this sh!t once and for all.

[Kez/JWolf 6]

Maybe its time for the west (america) to but out and let them blow eachother to into the arms of which ever god they belive in....

IMO

Kezzie

[CanGal 1]

QUOTE(mercuryroad @ Jul 19 2006, 04:16 PM)

Instead, they attempt to get in good with governments that may be able to excercise more power and gain better weaponry. The ultimate goal would be to get nuclear weapons because that evens the playing field.

The other method this group will use will be to incite a nation into military action, thereby forcing their hand and drawing more countries into this conflict. The only way to "dethrone" the U.S. and Israel would be to remove them as a world power. Involving the U.S. in a large scale war would suck up our resources and resolve. Their hope would be to pull Russia, China and some other countries into the conflict. These countries however could stand the most to gain. If the rest of the world is busy destroying itself, they will be around for the rewards. WWII did wonders for the U.S. economy and really solidified us as a power in the international community. The same could be done for China.

Either way, the only way to get where they want to go is to remove the U.S. as the world's major superpower and I believe that is their ultimate goal.

And just how likely is this to happen? China and Russia joining them I mean? And can you provide links to actual proof? Thanks

I don't believe Merc is far off on that statement at all about China and Russia. I don't have links but I do have a book that explains it all. I don't want to get too into it because it is a religious book and well i'm religious and you all might not agree with my view point and I'm not asking you too. I'm just saying I have to agree with what I've been studying on all of this and what Merc is saying, it's not that far off. Thats just my oppinion

[mercuryroad 0]

And just how likely is this to happen? China and Russia joining them I mean? And can you provide links to actual proof? Thanks

Just my opinion

Russia has a stake in Iran......China is an economy on the verge and would have much to gain.

Of the major powers in the world.....who generally comes to the defense of Iran, Iraq, etc when it comes to the United Nations? Who conistantly opposes any "real" action against any of those countries? Makes you wonder why that it is.

Think about it....if you are Hezbollah or any of these other groups, what is your strategy for victory? I believe it would be to unseat the U.S. If that is the case, who are your natural allies? Who stands to gain from such a move? Follow the money.

Edited July 19, 2006 by mercuryroad

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Based on their recent activities I suppose invasion wouldn't be out of question.

I would say invasion would be out of the question. I don't think they have the means to do that. At least not like an air strike or anything like that. We would (and should) shoot their butts out of the sky or blow them out of the water (if coming by sea) if they try to step foot on land here.

It's not possible

I would say that in my opinion, all tactics all lead to the same road. They know themselves that their group is not large enough nor does it have enough power to kill all of the civilians in the West.

Instead, they attempt to get in good with governments that may be able to excercise more power and gain better weaponry. The ultimate goal would be to get nuclear weapons because that evens the playing field.

The other method this group will use will be to incite a nation into military action, thereby forcing their hand and drawing more countries into this conflict. The only way to "dethrone" the U.S. and Israel would be to remove them as a world power. Involving the U.S. in a large scale war would suck up our resources and resolve. Their hope would be to pull Russia, China and some other countries into the conflict. These countries however could stand the most to gain. If the rest of the world is busy destroying itself, they will be around for the rewards. WWII did wonders for the U.S. economy and really solidified us as a power in the international community. The same could be done for China.

Either way, the only way to get where they want to go is to remove the U.S. as the world's major superpower and I believe that is their ultimate goal.

We just need to invade and change regimes in Iran and Syria -- we already control every

other country in the Middle East (Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, etc - even Libya

is our "friend" now.)

If the kidnapped Israeli soldiers are taken across the border to Iran, Israel will most definitely

launch air strikes at that country.....clearly, Iran would retaliate which would give the US / EU

a perfect excuse to invade and take care of this sh!t once and for all.

That really will cause WW3....

[CanGal 1]

QUOTE(mawilson @ Jul 19 2006, 04:26 PM)

QUOTE(mercuryroad @ Jul 19 2006, 04:12 PM)

QUOTE(Veiled Princess @ Jul 19 2006, 03:05 PM)

QUOTE(mercuryroad @ Jul 19 2006, 04:02 PM)

Based on their recent activities I suppose invasion wouldn't be out of question.

I would say invasion would be out of the question. I don't think they have the means to do that. At least not like an air strike or anything like that. We would (and should) shoot their butts out of the sky or blow them out of the water (if coming by sea) if they try to step foot on land here.

It's not possible

I would say that in my opinion, all tactics all lead to the same road. They know themselves that their group is not large enough nor does it have enough power to kill all of the civilians in the West.

Instead, they attempt to get in good with governments that may be able to excercise more power and gain better weaponry. The ultimate goal would be to get nuclear weapons because that evens the playing field.

The other method this group will use will be to incite a nation into military action, thereby forcing their hand and drawing more countries into this conflict. The only way to "dethrone" the U.S. and Israel would be to remove them as a world power. Involving the U.S. in a large scale war would suck up our resources and resolve. Their hope would be to pull Russia, China and some other countries into the conflict. These countries however could stand the most to gain. If the rest of the world is busy destroying itself, they will be around for the rewards. WWII did wonders for the U.S. economy and really solidified us as a power in the international community. The same could be done for China.

Either way, the only way to get where they want to go is to remove the U.S. as the world's major superpower and I believe that is their ultimate goal.

We just need to invade and change regimes in Iran and Syria -- we already control every

other country in the Middle East (Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, etc - even Libya

is our "friend" now.)

If the kidnapped Israeli soldiers are taken across the border to Iran, Israel will most definitely

launch air strikes at that country.....clearly, Iran would retaliate which would give the US / EU

a perfect excuse to invade and take care of this sh!t once and for all.

That really will cause WW3....

Indeed Indeed

[mawilson 2,133]

That really will cause WW3....

At least we'll be able to dispense with PC bullsh1t and call a spade a spade -- it *is*

a clash of civilizations, it *is* a war for natural resources, and it *is* us vs them.

Drop bombs so we can fill up our gas guzzling SUVs and live in prosperity, while

most of the rest of the world struggles to survive. You can't have your cake and

eat it too -- we cannot eliminate poverty and suffering in the world without giving

up our relative wealth. Call me selfish, but I'm not going to give up my SUV to

make some Iranian happy anytime soon. In fact, I would sooner pick up an M16

and fight them for it.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That really will cause WW3....

At least we'll be able to dispense with PC bullsh1t and call a spade a spade -- it *is*

a clash of civilizations, it *is* a war for natural resources, and it *is* us vs them.

Drop bombs so we can fill up our gas guzzling SUVs and live in prosperity, while

most of the rest of the world struggles to survive. You can't have your cake and

eat it too -- we cannot eliminate poverty and suffering in the world without giving

up our relative wealth. Call me selfish, but I'm not going to give up my SUV to

make some Iranian happy anytime soon. In fact, I would sooner pick up an M16

and fight them for it.

Fair enough. But if you think Iraq is expensive....

That level of direct involvement (considering that we're not done with Iraq and Afghanistan) could well bankrupt the US. Not to mention that Russia and China (and their allies) would not simply allow the US to take over the middle-east, which is effectively how it would be perceived.

[mawilson 2,133]

It's a bit too late for that -- the Middle East is already ours, save for Iran and a few

remaining obstacles. As for Russia and China...... well, if anything, Russia would

probably *benefit* from a war in the Middle East, being one of the world's largest

producers of oil. There is a very strong anti-Arab/Muslim sentiment in Russia, and

they will never fight on the side of Iran. China is even less likely to get involved

in any such conflict -- sure they need oil, but they need the US consumer to continue

to buy their cheap plastic ####### even more.

[Veiled Princess 1]

That really will cause WW3....

At least we'll be able to dispense with PC bullsh1t and call a spade a spade -- it *is*

a clash of civilizations, it *is* a war for natural resources, and it *is* us vs them.

Drop bombs so we can fill up our gas guzzling SUVs and live in prosperity, while

most of the rest of the world struggles to survive. You can't have your cake and

eat it too -- we cannot eliminate poverty and suffering in the world without giving

up our relative wealth. Call me selfish, but I'm not going to give up my SUV to

make some Iranian happy anytime soon. In fact, I would sooner pick up an M16

and fight them for it.

I'll give you credit for at least admitting to being a #######. That's more than the president will do

[mawilson 2,133]

I'll give you credit for at least admitting to being a #######. That's more than the president will do

Thanks, I guess...

Do you think the people would stand behind the President if he openly admitted that

the war we're fighting in Iraq is for oil and not some elusive WMD or "human rights"?