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I brought this up a year ago, reducing bags weight limit from 70lbs to 50lbs, then CHarging for the bags itself, some folks were complaning this extra fees is a way to releive the pressure on those poor baggae Handler, rather than an money sucking way from the airline, 1st, they started with the 50lbs rule, knowing lot of folks carry more than that, the EXCUSE back then it was to relieve the Pressure from the Baggage Handlers, ALL OF THAT IS BS.

Then they started charging for the 2nd bag, later on the 1st Bag. I fly cross country a lot and i had to really limit what I carry to avoid those charges, if i bring stuff home on holiday with 2 bags, thats' $50 each way, so basically it's a fare increased of $100.

No doing the same thing with international flight when people have family overseas they bring present and goodies too, now adding that extra FEES to the ticket is really GREEEEEDY.

Baggage fees join your overseas flights

By JOSHUA FREED, AP Airlines Writer – 1 hr 55 mins ago

MINNEAPOLIS – You can leave the U.S., but it's getting harder to leave behind baggage fees.

Fees to check bags on international flights are creeping in and may be here to stay. In the past three months, all the big U.S. carriers have added $50 fees to check a second bag on flights to Europe. Delta and Continental are charging second-bag fees for flights to Latin America, too.

We've flown this route before, with domestic bag fees. United Airlines started with a fee to check a second bag last year, and other carriers followed. The wave of international bag fees got started July 1 when Delta began charging to check a second bag between the U.S. and Europe.

By limiting baggage fees to domestic flights, the U.S. carriers left out a huge chunk of their traffic. More than half of Continental's traffic this year has been international. At Delta, which started the move toward international bag fees, almost 39 percent of its traffic is international.

So far, the U.S. carriers don't charge bag fees on most Asian routes. That will likely change. And charging to check the first bag on international flights is a revenue opportunity that might be too good to pass up.

"Yes. Of course baggage fees will spread worldwide to include even the first bag," said Jay Sorensen, an airline consultant who has studied and written about the carriers' so-called ancillary revenue.

"I think baggage fees will be the most widespread of the a la carte fees, because they truly are optional," he said. "You don't have to check a bag."

Sorensen said U.S. carriers will run into trouble charging fees on codeshare flights, where a ticket on, say, fee-charging Delta, might have been sold by partner Air France, which checks two bags for free.

Airline fares have fallen sharply in the recession, and many in the industry have argued that fees are basically a way to make up some of the shortfall. Luggage is expensive to handle and its weight makes the plane burn more jet fuel, so it makes sense for that service to cost something, the thinking goes.

Delta originally said it would charge a second-bag fee on all international flights, not just those to Europe. Its announcement in April said it hoped to collect $100 million a year if the new fee went worldwide. It scaled back that plan to just Europe after other carriers didn't match it. Delta declined to make an executive available to talk about the fee.

Joe Brancatelli, who runs the business travel Web site JoeSentMe.com, said European airline customers are much more used to paying fees, whereas Asian airlines have maintained a more full-service approach, even in coach. Through August, United and Delta (with its Northwest subsidiary) carried the most traffic to Asia, while Delta and American were the biggest U.S. carriers to Europe.

The new fees are coming from a shrinking number of travelers. Traffic between North America and Europe on all airlines fell 12 percent to 25.4 million travelers through the first half of this year compared with the first half of 2008, according to the International Air Transport Association.

Travelers pushing baggage carts out of the international arrival section at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport generally felt the same way about international baggage fees as they would about an overeager customs officer.

"It does concern me, because I travel a lot doing mission work, so a lot of times I have full luggage," said Sammy Wanyonyi, an evangelist from Victoria, Minn. His gear includes cameras and lots of clothes for his trips to East and Central Africa.

When he left Minneapolis, he was told he could check up to 70 pounds in each bag. But traveling back from Nairobi, on another airline, the limit was 50 pounds — which nearly put him and two other short-term missionaries he was traveling with in a bind until the airline waived the extra fees.

"The most disconcerting thing is it seems like each place has its own rules," he said.

Jerry and Lori White are already experienced at dodging baggage fees on domestic U.S. flights. They live in Saudi Arabia but come back to the U.S. once a year for a month or so. While they're here, they leave their luggage with family while they fly between Minnesota and Texas and other stops to avoid paying baggage fees. They may have to get craftier to avoid the fees coming back from Saudi Arabia, though.

After getting off a flight from Amsterdam for this year's trip, Jerry White said they'll be even choosier about which airlines they fly if the U.S. carriers expand baggage fees to more international flights.

"We hate to fly the ones that only allow one bag," Lori White said. "It's not worth it. We won't fly American for a lot of reasons; one of them is the bag fees."

The international carriers are not alone in exploring new things to charge for. Southwest Airlines Co., which flies only in the U.S. and still doesn't charge baggage fees, began charging $10 to reserve a spot in the boarding line. A better spot in line has value because most Southwest passengers get their seats on a first-come, first-served basis.

Southwest said when it launched the "Early Bird" program that it hoped to raise perhaps $75 million a year in new revenue. The trick will be selling the spot in line without annoying regular customers, as well as "Business Select" customers who still get to be first in line but might settle for the cheaper "Early Bird" approach instead.

Kevin Krone, Southwest's vice president of marketing, said they don't expect Business Select travelers to buy the Early Bird passes instead. As for traditional Southwest fliers back in the line, "we don't anticipate that large enough numbers of people will take advantage of it that it will ultimately impact the boarding experience for those that don't purchase it," he said.

Edited by Nikita2Charles

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