Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'

[Heracles 417]

Isn't it illogical when you go on talking about how a theoretical God is so much smarter than anything that we can imagine, but then assume that you know that God didn't create the Earth and life in 6 days? Is God is smart enough to do all of that, why couldn't he do it in 6 days?

Well you are right. Which proves my point. Trying to explain the world or think about God using our limited knowledge and capacity is wrong. We know nothing about space / time. For all we know a super intelligent force like God could have frozen time or cut through it. Phew, that is ridiculous. well so was a cell phone, gravity, electricity and even the world being round once.

[NickD 203]

Is it evolution or devolution? In a span of less than 25 years seen some breeders breed German Shepherd dogs with shoulder heights of over 32", standard for a male is 25.5" and weights of close to 150 pounds where the standard is 85 pounds. This is done by selective breeding. Also in the last 150 years, over a hundred new types of dogs have been selectively bred and recognized by the AKC. The 180-pound English Mastiff and the two-pound Chihuahuaare both members of Canis lupus familiaris species.

We also know this for a fact, if two idiots get married and have kids, their kids will be dumber than either parent.

I don't believe in evolution, but sure believe in devolution. Have enough idiots running around as proof of that.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

*Sigh* All science does is find patterns in things.

It doesn't make sense for space/time as well as all the natural, observable laws of physics, chemistry and biology to exist if all they are is some sort of silly distraction thrown out there by God. Indeed if you discount those things then all you have left is illogical magic.

Edited September 15, 2009 by Private Pike

[Heracles 417]

Its always been quite simple (in the modern age)-

theology is theology, science is science.

You don't need to be a follower of either to have sufficient logic intact to tell both apart.

That is exactly right. Both have their place in a society and should be kept apart.

I am a Christian but am also heavily into science, engineering and the pursuit of knowledge. As are many of my cousins that if I posted their names, I guarantee you would amazed to realize what discoveries they are known for in the science community; yet are extremely religious people.

Edited September 15, 2009 by Booyah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Are these the same relatives with the World Class martial arts skills?

[tmma 467]

Its always been quite simple (in the modern age)-

theology is theology, science is science.

You don't need to be a follower of either to have sufficient logic intact to tell both apart.

That is exactly right. Both have their place in a society and should be kept apart.

I am a Christian but am also heavily into science, engineering and the pursuit of knowledge. As are many of my cousins that if I posted their names, I guarantee you would amazed to realize what discoveries they are known for in the science community; yet are extremely religious people.

Are they published? I may have some of their work-I follow new publications and innovative scientists avidly. genuine question.

[Heracles 417]

We also know this for a fact, if two idiots get married and have kids, their kids will be dumber than either parent.

I don't believe in evolution, but sure believe in devolution. Have enough idiots running around as proof of that.

Well it's interesting that people have no qualms with talking about the genes of certain people that lead to better athletic and entertainment based abilities, however, absolutely refuse to connect (or accept) a possible innate negative associated with genes. Nope cannot be that. Must be history; must be oppression; must be... must be... Sorry, you cannot have it both ways. Either you deny it all or you accept the good with the bad.

Edited September 15, 2009 by Booyah!

[Peikko 1,575]

*Sigh* All science does is find patterns in things.

It doesn't make sense for space/time as well as all the natural, observable laws of physics, chemistry and biology to exist if all they are is some sort of silly distraction thrown out there by God. Indeed if you discount those things then all you have left is illogical magic.

That is one of the biggest objections I have to the idea of 'miracles'. Either the world is governed by immutable rules which we can observe and predict outcomes (which help us solve problems), or it is not and there is chaos. I don't see how the two can coexist logically.

[Heracles 417]

Are they published? I may have some of their work-I follow new publications and innovative scientists avidly. genuine question.

Yes. One of my cousin's research in stem cell is renowned and she is at church every week. Nicest person you will ever met.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

We also know this for a fact, if two idiots get married and have kids, their kids will be dumber than either parent.

I don't believe in evolution, but sure believe in devolution. Have enough idiots running around as proof of that.

Well it's interesting that people have no qualms with talking about the genes of certain people that lead to better athletic and entertainment based abilities, however, absolutely refuse to connect (or accept) a possible innate negative associated with genes. Nope cannot be that. Must be history; must be oppression; must be... must be...

Oh dear

Edited September 15, 2009 by Private Pike

[Peikko 1,575]

Oh my!

[Heracles 417]

Are these the same relatives with the World Class martial arts skills?

I have two contrasting types of family members.

[Peikko 1,575]

Two evolutionary strains of BY

[Heracles 417]

We also know this for a fact, if two idiots get married and have kids, their kids will be dumber than either parent.

I don't believe in evolution, but sure believe in devolution. Have enough idiots running around as proof of that.

Well it's interesting that people have no qualms with talking about the genes of certain people that lead to better athletic and entertainment based abilities, however, absolutely refuse to connect (or accept) a possible innate negative associated with genes. Nope cannot be that. Must be history; must be oppression; must be... must be...

Oh dear

That was a given. Either you accept the reality of genes, of evolution, or you do not.

Edited September 15, 2009 by Booyah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

*Sigh* All science does is find patterns in things.

It doesn't make sense for space/time as well as all the natural, observable laws of physics, chemistry and biology to exist if all they are is some sort of silly distraction thrown out there by God. Indeed if you discount those things then all you have left is illogical magic.

That is one of the biggest objections I have to the idea of 'miracles'. Either the world is governed by immutable rules which we can observe and predict outcomes (which help us solve problems), or it is not and there is chaos. I don't see how the two can coexist logically.

Well I think you can certainly accept the moral teachings of religion, but asking a modern audience to accept the resurrection (or that Jesus pulled loaves and fishes out of a hat) at face value is a very tough sell imo.