And if all this isn't enough Obamer is ramping up to make Illegals ...Legal

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Think outisde the box instead of spewing the same idiotic stereotypes and generalizations over and over. You are supposedly a citizen and you bash the country constantly. It's your right to do so. Liberalism has nothing to do with it. It's your paranoia at work.

Rubbish. While I may disagree with some choices and action plans of conservatives I have never ever heard them hate on America. Prior to Obama and around 2005, every second Liberal I crossed paths with would start on how screwed up America is because of various reasons, including Bush.

Was I talking to you?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Why would I be grateful to have an anti-American USA basher living here? That's even worse than an illegal. At least most of them are happy to be here.

What percentage of Aussies commit crimes in the US? We would have to hit the 5 decimal places mark to work it out. Eric the DB visa is waiting for you bro. I found the precise visa, it's class: Douche Bag.

Yeah says a lot that dirt poor people from a second world country are happy to be here. Man that is awesome.

I don't care about Australians commiting crimes, just anti-American, USA bashing ones who have no business being here.

Yea! We seriously prefer anti-American, USA bashing native born citizens

Who? You?

Oh, yea. I bash America every chance I get if America = liberalism to you.

Think outisde the box instead of spewing the same idiotic stereotypes and generalizations over and over. You are supposedly a citizen and you bash the country constantly. It's your right to do so. Liberalism has nothing to do with it. It's your paranoia at work.

Wow, there's a tip off to your wild delusions. You back a president who wants to "do-over" America because there's so much about it that he doesn't like. I oppose him and his blind followers and that makes me and America basher. You're really losing it, bud. That gives me comfort.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Why would I be grateful to have an anti-American USA basher living here? That's even worse than an illegal. At least most of them are happy to be here.

What percentage of Aussies commit crimes in the US? We would have to hit the 5 decimal places mark to work it out. Eric the DB visa is waiting for you bro. I found the precise visa, it's class: Douche Bag.

Yeah says a lot that dirt poor people from a second world country are happy to be here. Man that is awesome.

I don't care about Australians commiting crimes, just anti-American, USA bashing ones who have no business being here.

Yea! We seriously prefer anti-American, USA bashing native born citizens

Who? You?

Oh, yea. I bash America every chance I get if America = liberalism to you.

Think outisde the box instead of spewing the same idiotic stereotypes and generalizations over and over. You are supposedly a citizen and you bash the country constantly. It's your right to do so. Liberalism has nothing to do with it. It's your paranoia at work.

Wow, there's a tip off to your wild delusions. You back a president who wants to "do-over" America because there's so much about it that he doesn't like. I oppose him and his blind followers and that makes me and America basher. You're really losing it, bud. That gives me comfort.

You're like Haza, only you're a citizen. You keep great company. You just can't accept the fact the Republicans and conservatives ran the country into the ground. Maybe Obama can fix it, maybe he can't. You're no different than the sheep with your blind opposition.

[Heracles 417]

How are those analogous?

I shouldn't even bother answering since we wasted a good 10 posts to explain what a personal estimate/guess means and you still didn't get it.

Here's the summary:

Liberal ideals = against corporations and money

NYC = Epicenter (Hub) of corporations and money, for the entire world.

What's not to understand?

Same way I wouldn't be caught dead living in San Fran. Not because they're pro gay but because I share little to no similar ideals with the culture of the city.

Edited August 12, 2009 by haza

[spookyturtle 9,466]

How are those analogous?

I shouldn't even bother answering since we wasted a good 10 posts to explain what a personal estimate/guess means and you still didn't get it.

Here's the summary:

Liberal ideals = against corporations and money

NYC = Epicenter (Hub) of corporations and money, for the entire world.

What's not to understand?

Same way I wouldn't be caught dead living in San Fran. Not because they're pro gay but because I share little to no similar ideals with the culture of the city.

Probably afraid that you'd come out of the closet, huh?

[Heracles 417]

You're like Haza, only you're a citizen. You keep great company. You just can't accept the fact the Republicans and conservatives ran the country into the ground. Maybe Obama can fix it, maybe he can't. You're no different than the sheep with your blind opposition.

How much did you pay in federal income tax last year clown?

I paid over $55K and donated $20K.

Probably afraid that you'd come out of the closet, huh?

I won't be chasing a puny poof like you, that's for sure.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Why would I be grateful to have an anti-American USA basher living here? That's even worse than an illegal. At least most of them are happy to be here.

What percentage of Aussies commit crimes in the US? We would have to hit the 5 decimal places mark to work it out. Eric the DB visa is waiting for you bro. I found the precise visa, it's class: Douche Bag.

Yeah says a lot that dirt poor people from a second world country are happy to be here. Man that is awesome.

I don't care about Australians commiting crimes, just anti-American, USA bashing ones who have no business being here.

Yea! We seriously prefer anti-American, USA bashing native born citizens

Who? You?

Oh, yea. I bash America every chance I get if America = liberalism to you.

Think outisde the box instead of spewing the same idiotic stereotypes and generalizations over and over. You are supposedly a citizen and you bash the country constantly. It's your right to do so. Liberalism has nothing to do with it. It's your paranoia at work.

Wow, there's a tip off to your wild delusions. You back a president who wants to "do-over" America because there's so much about it that he doesn't like. I oppose him and his blind followers and that makes me and America basher. You're really losing it, bud. That gives me comfort.

You're like Haza, only you're a citizen. You keep great company. You just can't accept the fact the Republicans and conservatives ran the country into the ground. Maybe Obama can fix it, maybe he can't. You're no different than the sheep with your blind opposition.

Politicians and apathetic citizens let things go, but the US isn't "run into the ground", as you believe it to be. With that kind of perpective, you're clearly the America basher, not I. I see plenty to be proud of and grateful for, and even more to fight to preserve. This country may not be perfect, but it welcomed my family and made them citizens when other countries would not. That means something to me.

You so myopic that you take your birthright for granted to the point that you don't appreciate your blessings nor even recognize them. That's not a mistake I'll ever make.

Edited August 12, 2009 by Sofiyya

[spookyturtle 9,466]

You're like Haza, only you're a citizen. You keep great company. You just can't accept the fact the Republicans and conservatives ran the country into the ground. Maybe Obama can fix it, maybe he can't. You're no different than the sheep with your blind opposition.

How much did you pay in federal income tax last year clown?

I paid over $55K and donated $20K.

Probably afraid that you'd come out of the closet, huh?

I won't be chasing a puny poof like you, that's for sure.

You know absolutely nothing about me. I don't make idiotic claims about myself here like you do. What I pay in taxes is my business, not yours. Or I could best you and say I paid 75K and donated 30K. There, top that. Oh, wait, I know, your're telling the truth and I'm lying.

And, once again, a$$wipe, I was responding to someone else.

[Heracles 417]

Naturalized citizens can be better citizens than those born in a country, as most actually want to be part of the country.

I have seen and been to every national monument and museum in DC. I was even in DC was Obama was Inaugurated. Sparky is barking up the wrong tree with me. Now if he is going to ####### on about Australia and the US, well then I have a news flash for him as Australia has been side-by-side with the US in every war since WWII.

He may also want to read up on the E1 visa which is specifically and only available to Australians. America knows who their true friends are. A friend in need is a friend in deed.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How are those analogous?

I shouldn't even bother answering since we wasted a good 10 posts to explain what a personal estimate/guess means and you still didn't get it.

Here's the summary:

Liberal ideals = against corporations and money

NYC = Epicenter (Hub) of corporations and money, for the entire world.

What's not to understand?

Same way I wouldn't be caught dead living in San Fran. Not because they're pro gay but because I share little to no similar ideals with the culture of the city.

You're right BY, I really don't get it.

Whenever you tell one of your stories - it reminds me a lot of those early reading books for kids. Your narratives are so definite - "one day I was out walking and I met a Liberal" as if people actually wear neat little labels on their chest denoting their politics

I really get a laugh out of this kind of thing - an adult using a child's reason to understand the adult world.

Edited August 12, 2009 by Private Pike

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Politicians and apathetic citizens let things go, but the US isn't "run into the ground", as you believe it to be. With that kind of perpective, you're clearly the America basher, not I. I see plenty to be proud of and grateful for, and even more to fight to preserve. This country may not be perfect, but it welcomed my family and made them citizens when other countries would not. That means something to me.

You so myopic that you take your birthright for granted to the point that you don't appreciate your blessings nor even recognize them. That's not a mistake I'll ever make.

Bush did a lot of damage to the country, that's not perspective, it's fact. It's time to fix things and get them working again. And again, you know nothing about me as I don't parade my life online like some here do.

[Heracles 417]

You know absolutely nothing about me. I don't make idiotic claims about myself here like you do. What I pay in taxes is my business, not yours. Or I could best you and say I paid 75K and donated 30K. There, top that. Oh, wait, I know, your're telling the truth and I'm lying.

And, once again, a$$wipe, I was responding to someone else.

Dude I could easily scan and paste my tax return but I am not going to as why should I. For example, in four years of being on VJ I only know that six is possibly in the publishing field, well maybe and that he lives in Jersey and was born in the UUK. So why should I go out of my way to prove myself when I don't even know that guys name or much about anyone else for that matter, including you.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Naturalized citizens can be better citizens than those born in a country, as most actually want to be part of the country.

I have seen and been to every national monument and museum in DC. I was even in DC was Obama was Inaugurated. Sparky is barking up the wrong tree with me. Now if he is going to ####### on about Australia and the US, well then I have a news flash for him as Australia has been side-by-side with the US in every war since WWII.

He may also want to read up on the E1 visa which is specifically and only available to Australians. America knows who their true friends are. A friend in need is a friend in deed.

What does this have to do with YOU being a good addition to the US? You are a USA basher, don't pretend to be otherwise. And I have never ragged on Australia, just on you. I don't believe that most Aussie's are like you, and that's a good thing.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Politicians and apathetic citizens let things go, but the US isn't "run into the ground", as you believe it to be. With that kind of perpective, you're clearly the America basher, not I. I see plenty to be proud of and grateful for, and even more to fight to preserve. This country may not be perfect, but it welcomed my family and made them citizens when other countries would not. That means something to me.

You so myopic that you take your birthright for granted to the point that you don't appreciate your blessings nor even recognize them. That's not a mistake I'll ever make.

Bush did a lot of damage to the country, that's not perspective, it's fact. It's time to fix things and get them working again. And again, you know nothing about me as I don't parade my life online like some here do.

Bush is history. Get over him already. It's Barry's turn to do damage, and he must be opposed before he makes things worse. I'm willing to do stand up for what I believe in, and I know you're not. You're all talk, and no action, so you don't even count.

Edited August 12, 2009 by Sofiyya

[spookyturtle 9,466]

You know absolutely nothing about me. I don't make idiotic claims about myself here like you do. What I pay in taxes is my business, not yours. Or I could best you and say I paid 75K and donated 30K. There, top that. Oh, wait, I know, your're telling the truth and I'm lying.

And, once again, a$$wipe, I was responding to someone else.

Dude I could easily scan and paste my tax return but I am not going to as why should I. For example, in four years of being on VJ I only know that six is possibly in the publishing field, well maybe and that he lives in Jersey and was born in the UUK. So why should I go out of my way to prove myself when I don't even know that guys name or much about anyone else for that matter, including you.

Why don't you make a bet and put up 5K in a Paypal account? Really, you're nothing special.