Dems Fear Town Hall Meetings

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Actually, there are (at this time) FIVE versions of a health care bill, each with differing provisions, including one that explicitly rations health care for chronic illnesses and conditions, and allows the government to deduct money from private bank accounts. NO BILL OR GUARANTEE FROM THE PRESIDENT WILL ASSURE INDIVIDUAL OPTIONS. I hope I made that clear. For one thing, since most employees get ther health care thru their employers, they are hostage to choices that their employers make. if the government determines that they will tax that benefit, ad at this point, that is a consistant provision, employers may decide to drop the health care benefit.

My parents are on Medicare and they also choose to buy supplemental private insurance. How would a public option that is available to all Americans, not just seniors and the disabled, be any different?

Steven, have you read any one of the five versions, or are you relying on your favorite leftist bloggers to tell you what the fed's plans are for you and your folks?

Oh, so you aren't opposed to it on principal. You're just against the current proposals as you understand them because according to your understanding, they would make the public option different from Medicare and forbid Americans to purchase supplemental private insurance?

I am opposed to them on the principle that I embrace individual liberty, freedom, and abhore big government overstepping the bounds of its Constitutional limitations.

Does the USPS infringe on your individual liberty and freedom?

If my health care had the same problems as the USPS, yes, it would

How so? You've got options. Oh, that's right, Fed Ex doesn't serve Buttcrack, AL.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Actually, there are (at this time) FIVE versions of a health care bill, each with differing provisions, including one that explicitly rations health care for chronic illnesses and conditions, and allows the government to deduct money from private bank accounts. NO BILL OR GUARANTEE FROM THE PRESIDENT WILL ASSURE INDIVIDUAL OPTIONS. I hope I made that clear. For one thing, since most employees get ther health care thru their employers, they are hostage to choices that their employers make. if the government determines that they will tax that benefit, ad at this point, that is a consistant provision, employers may decide to drop the health care benefit.

My parents are on Medicare and they also choose to buy supplemental private insurance. How would a public option that is available to all Americans, not just seniors and the disabled, be any different?

Steven, have you read any one of the five versions, or are you relying on your favorite leftist bloggers to tell you what the fed's plans are for you and your folks?

Oh, so you aren't opposed to it on principal. You're just against the current proposals as you understand them because according to your understanding, they would make the public option different from Medicare and forbid Americans to purchase supplemental private insurance?

I am opposed to them on the principle that I embrace individual liberty, freedom, and abhore big government overstepping the bounds of its Constitutional limitations.

Does the USPS infringe on your individual liberty and freedom?

If my health care had the same problems as the USPS, yes, it would

How so? You've got options. Oh, that's right, Fed Ex doesn't serve Buttcrack, AL.

Did you read the article? Or do you prefer your health care in the red?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Actually, there are (at this time) FIVE versions of a health care bill, each with differing provisions, including one that explicitly rations health care for chronic illnesses and conditions, and allows the government to deduct money from private bank accounts. NO BILL OR GUARANTEE FROM THE PRESIDENT WILL ASSURE INDIVIDUAL OPTIONS. I hope I made that clear. For one thing, since most employees get ther health care thru their employers, they are hostage to choices that their employers make. if the government determines that they will tax that benefit, ad at this point, that is a consistant provision, employers may decide to drop the health care benefit.

My parents are on Medicare and they also choose to buy supplemental private insurance. How would a public option that is available to all Americans, not just seniors and the disabled, be any different?

Steven, have you read any one of the five versions, or are you relying on your favorite leftist bloggers to tell you what the fed's plans are for you and your folks?

Oh, so you aren't opposed to it on principal. You're just against the current proposals as you understand them because according to your understanding, they would make the public option different from Medicare and forbid Americans to purchase supplemental private insurance?

I am opposed to them on the principle that I embrace individual liberty, freedom, and abhore big government overstepping the bounds of its Constitutional limitations.

Does the USPS infringe on your individual liberty and freedom?

If my health care had the same problems as the USPS, yes, it would

How so? You've got options. Oh, that's right, Fed Ex doesn't serve Buttcrack, AL.

...and that's the point I was going to make. If you don't like the USPS, you have options. If you are retired and on Medicare, you can still purchase supplemental health insurance. In Canada, their health care system works that way. To say that it can't work is just flat out denial.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Actually, there are (at this time) FIVE versions of a health care bill, each with differing provisions, including one that explicitly rations health care for chronic illnesses and conditions, and allows the government to deduct money from private bank accounts. NO BILL OR GUARANTEE FROM THE PRESIDENT WILL ASSURE INDIVIDUAL OPTIONS. I hope I made that clear. For one thing, since most employees get ther health care thru their employers, they are hostage to choices that their employers make. if the government determines that they will tax that benefit, ad at this point, that is a consistant provision, employers may decide to drop the health care benefit.

My parents are on Medicare and they also choose to buy supplemental private insurance. How would a public option that is available to all Americans, not just seniors and the disabled, be any different?

Steven, have you read any one of the five versions, or are you relying on your favorite leftist bloggers to tell you what the fed's plans are for you and your folks?

Oh, so you aren't opposed to it on principal. You're just against the current proposals as you understand them because according to your understanding, they would make the public option different from Medicare and forbid Americans to purchase supplemental private insurance?

I am opposed to them on the principle that I embrace individual liberty, freedom, and abhore big government overstepping the bounds of its Constitutional limitations.

Does the USPS infringe on your individual liberty and freedom?

If my health care had the same problems as the USPS, yes, it would

How so? You've got options. Oh, that's right, Fed Ex doesn't serve Buttcrack, AL.

...and that's the point I was going to make. If you don't like the USPS, you have options. If you are retired and on Medicare, you can still purchase supplemental health insurance. In Canada, their health care system works that way. To say that it can't work is just flat out denial.

Right now, I have the option to have no health insurance. The feds, under the new health care provisions, want to tax that option because they consider my choice to be "unacceptable". Tell me how they have the authority to tax my choice to forgo health care.

Edited August 11, 2009 by Sofiyya

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Actually, there are (at this time) FIVE versions of a health care bill, each with differing provisions, including one that explicitly rations health care for chronic illnesses and conditions, and allows the government to deduct money from private bank accounts. NO BILL OR GUARANTEE FROM THE PRESIDENT WILL ASSURE INDIVIDUAL OPTIONS. I hope I made that clear. For one thing, since most employees get ther health care thru their employers, they are hostage to choices that their employers make. if the government determines that they will tax that benefit, ad at this point, that is a consistant provision, employers may decide to drop the health care benefit.

My parents are on Medicare and they also choose to buy supplemental private insurance. How would a public option that is available to all Americans, not just seniors and the disabled, be any different?

Steven, have you read any one of the five versions, or are you relying on your favorite leftist bloggers to tell you what the fed's plans are for you and your folks?

Oh, so you aren't opposed to it on principal. You're just against the current proposals as you understand them because according to your understanding, they would make the public option different from Medicare and forbid Americans to purchase supplemental private insurance?

I am opposed to them on the principle that I embrace individual liberty, freedom, and abhore big government overstepping the bounds of its Constitutional limitations.

Does the USPS infringe on your individual liberty and freedom?

If my health care had the same problems as the USPS, yes, it would

How so? You've got options. Oh, that's right, Fed Ex doesn't serve Buttcrack, AL.

...and that's the point I was going to make. If you don't like the USPS, you have options. If you are retired and on Medicare, you can still purchase supplemental health insurance. In Canada, their health care system works that way. To say that it can't work is just flat out denial.

Right now, I have the option to have no health insurance. The feds, under the new health care provisions, want to tax that option because they consider my choice to be "unacceptable". Tell me how they have the authority to tax my choice to forgo health care.

Which current Federal taxes are you allowed to opt out of now?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Quite a few.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Quite a few.

For example?

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This one, and that one. Duh.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Quite a few.

For example?

Seriously, Steven, do you live in a cave? It seems like there are so many things you are unaware of. Besides, you haven't answered any of my questions to you.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Quite a few.

For example?

Seriously, Steven, do you live in a cave? It seems like there are so many things you are unaware of. Besides, you haven't answered any of my questions to you.

Come on...play fair. I'm asking you a fair question.

I'll make it easier - do you get taxed for Medicare and Social Security?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Quite a few.

For example?

Seriously, Steven, do you live in a cave? It seems like there are so many things you are unaware of. Besides, you haven't answered any of my questions to you.

Come on...play fair. I'm asking you a fair question.

I'll make it easier - do you get taxed for Medicare and Social Security?

I earn $1 a year.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Quite a few.

For example?

Seriously, Steven, do you live in a cave? It seems like there are so many things you are unaware of. Besides, you haven't answered any of my questions to you.

Come on...play fair. I'm asking you a fair question.

I'll make it easier - do you get taxed for Medicare and Social Security?

I earn $1 a year.

Wow. Ok, so basically you're all up in arms over how much that dollar of yours is going to be taxed if Medicare is expanded to cover more Americans? Wow...I can really see how this should outrage you.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Quite a few.

For example?

Seriously, Steven, do you live in a cave? It seems like there are so many things you are unaware of. Besides, you haven't answered any of my questions to you.

Come on...play fair. I'm asking you a fair question.

I'll make it easier - do you get taxed for Medicare and Social Security?

I earn $1 a year.

Wow. Ok, so basically you're all up in arms over how much that dollar of yours is going to be taxed if Medicare is expanded to cover more Americans? Wow...I can really see how this should outrage you.

my thoughts to you: Get a library card, Stevie. Read up on finances.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Quite a few.

For example?

Seriously, Steven, do you live in a cave? It seems like there are so many things you are unaware of. Besides, you haven't answered any of my questions to you.

Come on...play fair. I'm asking you a fair question.

I'll make it easier - do you get taxed for Medicare and Social Security?

I earn $1 a year.

Wow. Ok, so basically you're all up in arms over how much that dollar of yours is going to be taxed if Medicare is expanded to cover more Americans? Wow...I can really see how this should outrage you.

my thoughts to you: Get a library card, Stevie. Read up on finances.

Actually, if you'd just answer my question to begin with, we wouldn't have to go round and round the mulberry bush.

I asked you which Federal taxes can you (a citizen) opt out of now?

You pay for taxes on things which you get no direct benefit. So how would taxing you for health insurance that covers other Americans even if you reject the public insurance for yourself be any different?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Quite a few.

For example?

Seriously, Steven, do you live in a cave? It seems like there are so many things you are unaware of. Besides, you haven't answered any of my questions to you.

Come on...play fair. I'm asking you a fair question.

I'll make it easier - do you get taxed for Medicare and Social Security?

I earn $1 a year.

Wow. Ok, so basically you're all up in arms over how much that dollar of yours is going to be taxed if Medicare is expanded to cover more Americans? Wow...I can really see how this should outrage you.

my thoughts to you: Get a library card, Stevie. Read up on finances.

Actually, if you'd just answer my question to begin with, we wouldn't have to go round and round the mulberry bush.

I asked you which Federal taxes can you (a citizen) opt out of now?

You pay for taxes on things which you get no direct benefit. So how would taxing you for health insurance that covers other Americans even if you reject the public insurance for yourself be any different?

It's the drip. drip. drip of tax money to benefit the lastest entitlement that I resist.