I CANNOT BELIEVE IT!!!!

[Goldfee111 3]

and under F i stands again u can apply when u are a spouse...so then please explain me this

[FRJ 0]

bobby i know u speak from the 30-60-90 rule...but i know also people wich marry after 10 days and had no problems

and again read the 485 instructions..there usci wrote it in black letters:-))

Again, you should read the 485 instructions, specifically, Item F under "Who is not eligible to adjust status?".

Getting married and attempting to AOS will change your non immigrant status. So if they person looking at your case uses that to deny you, your out of luck, not withstanding your marriage to a USC. Remember, the burden of proof is on you, not USCIS.

I did not say people can't get married under the VWP, many people do. Many people get married using the B1/B2 visa.

But there are cases of people of getting denied and sent home, with bans. I know one case personally.

It's a great disservice to make it look like it will be a walk in the park, if your case is strong, then you should not have a problem, but no two cases are exactly the same.

It all depends on who adjudicates your case. If they play hardball, and you have the deck stacked against you, then who will they blame? Some person on the internet that said "it was ok and we did it"?

I also wouldn't say it's "envy", I would rather say it was being cautious. Which is all I'm posting on this subject...

couldn't have said it better myself!

give it up friend...even the OP stopped responding!

[Goldfee111 3]

FRJ no explanation???

to say give up is really simple...it would be interesting to find out because under F i and under K stands the same...so i really dont know where is the problem?!?!?

Edited March 23, 2009 by Goldfee111

[FRJ 0]

FRJ no explanation???

to say give up is really simple...it would be interesting to find out because under F i and under K stands the same...so i really dont know where is the problem?!?!?

u lost me and anybody else who thought you had a point when u brought up the 'envy'. whatever comments that were expressed on here served the sole purpose of informing the OP of potential obstacles. lets just leave it at that..your case was approved, lets hope she gets an IO as kind hearted as yours.

[Goldfee111 3]

frj envy was only a assumption because i had no other explanation...

for me its only interesting to find out because when its so wrong or not right why no one had any problems in the interview or got even asked for that....for me its importend also for the future if people need advises...

[FRJ 0]

frj envy was only a assumption because i had no other explanation...

for me its only interesting to find out because when its so wrong or not right why no one had any problems in the interview or got even asked for that....for me its importend also for the future if people need advises...

true...but we all know we need some sort of immigration reform...the most i think you'll get on here are people who will alert you as to what could possibly happen because we all know that no two cases are the same. that's the most you will get..however you interpret it, its up to u. i wish somehow we could get an IO or somebody to answer some questions about the inner working of uscis.. maybe that's a project that i will undertake.

[EtherealVocalist 0]

bobby i know u speak from the 30-60-90 rule...but i know also people wich marry after 10 days and had no problems

and again read the 485 instructions..there usci wrote it in black letters:-))

Again, you should read the 485 instructions, specifically, Item F under "Who is not eligible to adjust status?".

Getting married and attempting to AOS will change your non immigrant status. So if they person looking at your case uses that to deny you, your out of luck, not withstanding your marriage to a USC. Remember, the burden of proof is on you, not USCIS.

I did not say people can't get married under the VWP, many people do. Many people get married using the B1/B2 visa.

But there are cases of people of getting denied and sent home, with bans. I know one case personally.

It's a great disservice to make it look like it will be a walk in the park, if your case is strong, then you should not have a problem, but no two cases are exactly the same.

It all depends on who adjudicates your case. If they play hardball, and you have the deck stacked against you, then who will they blame? Some person on the internet that said "it was ok and we did it"?

I also wouldn't say it's "envy", I would rather say it was being cautious. Which is all I'm posting on this subject...

couldn't have said it better myself!

give it up friend...even the OP stopped responding!

My - a girl is allowed to take a day off per week, and be away from the computer, yes?

[EtherealVocalist 0]

frj envy was only a assumption because i had no other explanation...

for me its only interesting to find out because when its so wrong or not right why no one had any problems in the interview or got even asked for that....for me its importend also for the future if people need advises...

I have called and called USCIS ( I know you guys say they do not know jackSh!t ) and talked to 12 people total and they all told me to go ahead and do the AOS while he's here in the USA - unless he has to go back home, to tend to business, then he should seek other means ( such as a K-3 ). The fact that he came under the VWP or any other visa doesnt change the fact that he married a USC and is allowed to adjust status regardless of the current visa. They did tell me however that we have to prove bona fide marriage, that is what they care about and will crack on people that are trying to come to the country with ulterior motives. We do have a bona fide marriage, have boxes to prove it, letters etc. I a not in the bit worried about our interview. My husband and I know how we feel about each other, and I know deep in my heart that things will be ok

[EtherealVocalist 0]

FRJ - Looking at your timeline, I am wondering, which visa route did you undertake?

Edited March 23, 2009 by EtherealVocalist

[EtherealVocalist 0]

... also, I know a lot of you have said that you have known people that have been sent home and with bans... There is always 2 sides to a coin, and I have found out by reading extensively on multitudes of forums and threads that some people have come to get married when previously came illegally or have overstayed visas, under false pretense, with criminal records, etc...

If it was NOT allowed to adjust from VWP - then there would be no option to. everyone would have to follow the same route. The ultimate end result is the same: to be with our loved ones. There are several ways to get there, some quicker than others, some more riske than others... whatever route you take, as long as you have a real bona fide marriage, you filled out everything to the best of your knowledge with all the supporting documents and that you know you are being true - I think the sun should shine upon you at interview time.

Overly confident or possibly "happy-go-lucky" attitude on my part you might think?

I'd rather be this way than being frightened by all that has been said here by some poster(s) assuming we commited visa fraud.

Edited March 23, 2009 by EtherealVocalist

[FRJ 0]

... also, I know a lot of you have said that you have known people that have been sent home and with bans... There is always 2 sides to a coin, and I have found out by reading extensively on multitudes of forums and threads that some people have come to get married when previously came illegally or have overstayed visas, under false pretense, with criminal records, etc...

If it was NOT allowed to adjust from VWP - then there would be no option to. everyone would have to follow the same route. The ultimate end result is the same: to be with our loved ones. There are several ways to get there, some quicker than others, some more riske than others... whatever route you take, as long as you have a real bona fide marriage, you filled out everything to the best of your knowledge with all the supporting documents and that you know you are being true - I think the sun should shine upon you at interview time.

Overly confident or possibly "happy-go-lucky" attitude on my part you might think?

I'd rather be this way than being frightened by all that has been said here by some poster(s) assuming we commited visa fraud.

i adjusted from an F-1

[EtherealVocalist 0]

... also, I know a lot of you have said that you have known people that have been sent home and with bans... There is always 2 sides to a coin, and I have found out by reading extensively on multitudes of forums and threads that some people have come to get married when previously came illegally or have overstayed visas, under false pretense, with criminal records, etc...

If it was NOT allowed to adjust from VWP - then there would be no option to. everyone would have to follow the same route. The ultimate end result is the same: to be with our loved ones. There are several ways to get there, some quicker than others, some more riske than others... whatever route you take, as long as you have a real bona fide marriage, you filled out everything to the best of your knowledge with all the supporting documents and that you know you are being true - I think the sun should shine upon you at interview time.

Overly confident or possibly "happy-go-lucky" attitude on my part you might think?

I'd rather be this way than being frightened by all that has been said here by some poster(s) assuming we commited visa fraud.

i adjusted from an F-1

Arent people coming to the USA under the VWP and student coming under the F-1 visa placed in the same category as "non-immigrant" visa? you were able to adjust your status when you married. I should be able to as well - doesn't matter which visa you came under in my opinion as long as your marriage is bona fide. By your train of thought, maybe I should go ahead and assume that you came here to study but in reality, you used that visa to perhaps fall in love marry and then adjust to stay here. It certainly seems unjust to think or assume something like that, but that's how it also feel when people assume that couples used the WVP to adjust as a mean of an easier way to "get around the system".

[FRJ 0]

... also, I know a lot of you have said that you have known people that have been sent home and with bans... There is always 2 sides to a coin, and I have found out by reading extensively on multitudes of forums and threads that some people have come to get married when previously came illegally or have overstayed visas, under false pretense, with criminal records, etc...

If it was NOT allowed to adjust from VWP - then there would be no option to. everyone would have to follow the same route. The ultimate end result is the same: to be with our loved ones. There are several ways to get there, some quicker than others, some more riske than others... whatever route you take, as long as you have a real bona fide marriage, you filled out everything to the best of your knowledge with all the supporting documents and that you know you are being true - I think the sun should shine upon you at interview time.

Overly confident or possibly "happy-go-lucky" attitude on my part you might think?

I'd rather be this way than being frightened by all that has been said here by some poster(s) assuming we commited visa fraud.

i adjusted from an F-1

Arent people coming to the USA under the VWP and student coming under the F-1 visa placed in the same category as "non-immigrant" visa? you were able to adjust your status when you married. I should be able to as well - doesn't matter which visa you came under in my opinion as long as your marriage is bona fide. By your train of thought, maybe I should go ahead and assume that you came here to study but in reality, you used that visa to perhaps fall in love marry and then adjust to stay here. It certainly seems unjust to think or assume something like that, but that's how it also feel when people assume that couples used the WVP to adjust as a mean of an easier way to "get around the system".

uhhh...no they are not the same at all. why are you going so hard anyways...what do u have to prove.. we were just tryin to help u along with ur process. if everybody who asked for advice and only wanted to hear only the good stuff, then what would the point be. its god to air with caution and just heed the advice..its presented, take it however you want it...

and dont be silly....f-1 and vwp are by no means the same category. i came as a student and 8 years later got married. can u say the same? you are going about this the wrong way. u asked , people answered..now stop with the sherlock holmes ######. the difference between u and is simple.i already got approved. the burden is still on U to convince an IO...u have nothing to prove to me.

[EtherealVocalist 0]

... also, I know a lot of you have said that you have known people that have been sent home and with bans... There is always 2 sides to a coin, and I have found out by reading extensively on multitudes of forums and threads that some people have come to get married when previously came illegally or have overstayed visas, under false pretense, with criminal records, etc...

If it was NOT allowed to adjust from VWP - then there would be no option to. everyone would have to follow the same route. The ultimate end result is the same: to be with our loved ones. There are several ways to get there, some quicker than others, some more riske than others... whatever route you take, as long as you have a real bona fide marriage, you filled out everything to the best of your knowledge with all the supporting documents and that you know you are being true - I think the sun should shine upon you at interview time.

Overly confident or possibly "happy-go-lucky" attitude on my part you might think?

I'd rather be this way than being frightened by all that has been said here by some poster(s) assuming we commited visa fraud.

i adjusted from an F-1

Arent people coming to the USA under the VWP and student coming under the F-1 visa placed in the same category as "non-immigrant" visa? you were able to adjust your status when you married. I should be able to as well - doesn't matter which visa you came under in my opinion as long as your marriage is bona fide. By your train of thought, maybe I should go ahead and assume that you came here to study but in reality, you used that visa to perhaps fall in love marry and then adjust to stay here. It certainly seems unjust to think or assume something like that, but that's how it also feel when people assume that couples used the WVP to adjust as a mean of an easier way to "get around the system".

uhhh...no they are not the same at all. why are you going so hard anyways...what do u have to prove.. we were just tryin to help u along with ur process. if everybody who asked for advice and only wanted to hear only the good stuff, then what would the point be. its god to air with caution and just heed the advice..its presented, take it however you want it...

and dont be silly....f-1 and vwp are by no means the same category. i came as a student and 8 years later got married. can u say the same? you are going about this the wrong way. u asked , people answered..now stop with the sherlock holmes ######. the difference between u and is simple.i already got approved. the burden is still on U to convince an IO...u have nothing to prove to me.

Oh... On the USCIS website, it says that "F" visas are non-immigrant visas... My bad!

[FRJ 0]

... also, I know a lot of you have said that you have known people that have been sent home and with bans... There is always 2 sides to a coin, and I have found out by reading extensively on multitudes of forums and threads that some people have come to get married when previously came illegally or have overstayed visas, under false pretense, with criminal records, etc...

If it was NOT allowed to adjust from VWP - then there would be no option to. everyone would have to follow the same route. The ultimate end result is the same: to be with our loved ones. There are several ways to get there, some quicker than others, some more riske than others... whatever route you take, as long as you have a real bona fide marriage, you filled out everything to the best of your knowledge with all the supporting documents and that you know you are being true - I think the sun should shine upon you at interview time.

Overly confident or possibly "happy-go-lucky" attitude on my part you might think?

I'd rather be this way than being frightened by all that has been said here by some poster(s) assuming we commited visa fraud.

i adjusted from an F-1

Arent people coming to the USA under the VWP and student coming under the F-1 visa placed in the same category as "non-immigrant" visa? you were able to adjust your status when you married. I should be able to as well - doesn't matter which visa you came under in my opinion as long as your marriage is bona fide. By your train of thought, maybe I should go ahead and assume that you came here to study but in reality, you used that visa to perhaps fall in love marry and then adjust to stay here. It certainly seems unjust to think or assume something like that, but that's how it also feel when people assume that couples used the WVP to adjust as a mean of an easier way to "get around the system".

uhhh...no they are not the same at all. why are you going so hard anyways...what do u have to prove.. we were just tryin to help u along with ur process. if everybody who asked for advice and only wanted to hear only the good stuff, then what would the point be. its god to air with caution and just heed the advice..its presented, take it however you want it...

and dont be silly....f-1 and vwp are by no means the same category. i came as a student and 8 years later got married. can u say the same? you are going about this the wrong way. u asked , people answered..now stop with the sherlock holmes ######. the difference between u and is simple.i already got approved. the burden is still on U to convince an IO...u have nothing to prove to me.

Oh... On the USCIS website, it says that "F" visas are non-immigrant visas... My bad!

yeah and i'm sure we get the same scrutiny..

how long were u in the US via vwp did u get married? if u could just answer this it would help alot.