Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I was thinking more of Mr. Majestik.

isn't that one of those Charles Bronson movies where he played a hitman?

[DeadPoolX 9]

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

It's agricultural work presumably?

Construction and landscaping work as well. Anything requiring semi-skilled or manual labor.

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

You must have seen that movie...

Day without a Mexican or something like that.

I was thinking more of Mr. Majestik.

He's a Kherubim warlord.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I was thinking more of Mr. Majestik.

isn't that one of those Charles Bronson movies where he played a hitman?

He was a watermelon farmer.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071866/

Edited March 20, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[Peikko 1,575]

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

It's agricultural work presumably?

Construction and landscaping work as well. Anything requiring semi-skilled or manual labor.

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

You must have seen that movie...

Day without a Mexican or something like that.

I was thinking more of Mr. Majestik.

Is there an assumption though, that these are illegal workers because they are day labourers? That is one of the things I have an issue with. If one could be certain, then of course one could be more pro active in trying to deal with the situation.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

It's agricultural work presumably?

Construction and landscaping work as well. Anything requiring semi-skilled or manual labor.

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

You must have seen that movie...

Day without a Mexican or something like that.

I was thinking more of Mr. Majestik.

Is there an assumption though, that these are illegal workers because they are day labourers? That is one of the things I have an issue with. If one could be certain, then of course one could be more pro active in trying to deal with the situation.

They are not all illegals, but a good portion are.

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Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

You must have seen that movie...

Day without a Mexican or something like that.

Does it have Spanish subtitles?

Searching...

http://www.adaywithoutamexican.com/

California is in shock. The economic, political and social implications of this disaster threaten the Golden State’s way of life. We delve into the lives of four characters: Mary Jo Quintana, teacher and housewife; Senator Abercrombie, suddenly upgraded to Governor; Louis Mcclaire, ranch owner and agribusiness representative; and Lila Rodriguez, reporter and apparently the only Latina left behind. For all of them, “the disappearance” forces the cracks in their private lives wide open. Experts pose questions and offer theories: Could this be a UFO kidnapping? Biological terrorism? The Apocalypse and Latinos are the chosen ones? Or perhaps they just left because they were tired of being taken for granted.

As time goes by, the State continues to deteriorate: Garbage has taken over the streets and tears are permanently painted on the faces of most citizens as the 5th largest economy in the world tumbles. The realization that what has disappeared is the very thing that keeps the “California Dream” running – cooks, gardeners, policemen, nannies, doctors, farm and construction workers, entertainers, athletes, as well as the largest growing market of consumers – has turned Latinos and their return into the number one priority in the State.

Of course there are those who disagree. A baseball inscribed with hate and ignorance, is tossed at Lila Rodriguez. The last hope for answers has been destroyed. But as despair turns into quiet sorrow, deeply felt memories and heartfelt appreciation yield unexpected results.

Misunderstandings and humorous situations abound, making this a comedic satire…a modern fable, lesson included.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

It's agricultural work presumably?

Construction and landscaping work as well. Anything requiring semi-skilled or manual labor.

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

You must have seen that movie...

Day without a Mexican or something like that.

I was thinking more of Mr. Majestik.

Is there an assumption though, that these are illegal workers because they are day labourers? That is one of the things I have an issue with. If one could be certain, then of course one could be more pro active in trying to deal with the situation.

Individuals can only speculate. Sometimes of course they speculate a bit too hard (as we see in these threads).

[Peikko 1,575]

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

It's agricultural work presumably?

Construction and landscaping work as well. Anything requiring semi-skilled or manual labor.

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

You must have seen that movie...

Day without a Mexican or something like that.

I was thinking more of Mr. Majestik.

Is there an assumption though, that these are illegal workers because they are day labourers? That is one of the things I have an issue with. If one could be certain, then of course one could be more pro active in trying to deal with the situation.

They are not all illegals, but a good portion are.

And there in lies the rub.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

It's agricultural work presumably?

Construction and landscaping work as well. Anything requiring semi-skilled or manual labor.

Interesting, so is the reason why this falls to illegal workers a combination of the itinerant nature of the work and the fact that the area normally has so many other jobs to offer that legal workers don't look in that direction?

I don't know the reasons, but I am sure it is economic. California still has high unemployment. Also, government agencies seem to develope a client relationship with the very bussinesses they are supposed to regulate. I think it is more of trying not to force the economy completely underground, so that the state and local governments can still capture some revenue.

I know when I drive by the usual spots, there are always Hispanics looking for work, and nobody else, so there are no shortage of workers. The unemployed white folk around here would rather panhandle, than take a day job.

You must have seen that movie...

Day without a Mexican or something like that.

I was thinking more of Mr. Majestik.

Is there an assumption though, that these are illegal workers because they are day labourers? That is one of the things I have an issue with. If one could be certain, then of course one could be more pro active in trying to deal with the situation.

They are not all illegals, but a good portion are.

And there in lies the rub.

It gets even tougher, when most agencies around here are forbidden from even asking. It is the humane thing to do, but it also has a cost. How much of a cost is open for debate, but as long as they can recover a portion of the cost in payroll taxes, then they will continue the "don't ask, don't tell policy", especially in an agricultural state such as California.

[Peikko 1,575]

Oh dear, agreement all around here. I totally agree with that statement and I suspect that part of the 'why is nothing ever done' is down to the fact that those in the know using best guess estimates have come to the conclusion that doing something about it is less cost effective than doing nothing.

Of course that is not a satisfactory answer, but reality rarely is.