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[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Are they remade Russian versions with Russian actors or only voice-overed Russian langauage versions? The "Married With Children" is completely remade with the stories more Russified.

Makes me wonder if they have a Russian version of that lame series. I've watched the Russian "Marriage With Chidren" produced with all Russian actors with different character names. The house looks similar and the Russian father sticks his hand down his pants just like "Al".

not sure why russians would be interested in four seasons of full house, but there you go.

actually, warner brothers sold all of their sitcoms to russian tv. so not only is there married with children, but perfect strangers, the nanny, who's the boss, and three's company had also already aired as russian versions by the time i left in august. i am pretty sure they are also producing full house. they also sell the stupid olsen twins dvds in russia, and they are pretty popular.

[eekee 182]

Are they remade Russian versions with Russian actors or only voice-overed Russian langauage versions? The "Married With Children" is completely remade with the stories more Russified.

they are completely remade. i think there are some storylines that are recycled, but they are still definitely russified. they also, however, show the US married with children dubbed over.

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Interesting. I do also remember seeing the "Nanny" show too. But the nanny was a whole lot hotter than Fran Drescher and without the annoying voice.

Are they remade Russian versions with Russian actors or only voice-overed Russian langauage versions? The "Married With Children" is completely remade with the stories more Russified.

they are completely remade. i think there are some storylines that are recycled, but they are still definitely russified. they also, however, show the US married with children dubbed over.

Edited December 24, 2007 by Kazan' Tiger

[shikarnov 7]

I've seen a lot of these programs as well. Maybe it's eternal naivety, but I'm still surprised when I see something blatantly Western/American being adopted so completely here. I recall, when I first arrived two years ago, being shocked at hearing almost all the same music on the radio in the taxi (5 hours to Ivanovo from SVO) as I would in New York, instead of some Russian music.

Anyway, I'm not sure if its a remake or not, but I'm a huge fan of the program, "Sasha i Masha." It just cracks me up.

Z

PS: In the new mall, they opened up a food court that's actually called the "фуд-курт." While things like this make my life a lot easier, it is sad, and I empathize with those who are fighting for the preservation of the Russian culture and language.

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

I am with you. In Kazan' it is usual to hear 20% western music (18% too much if you ask me.) I have seen Sasha / Masha, but can't remember the theme now. I more worry for the children that are in their teens and younger now. They seem the most willing to loose a bit of their culture in favour of western. But I still believe many things will continue to be held over. As for the Americanized phrases, my personal favourites are Фаст Фуд and Биснис Ланч.

I've seen a lot of these programs as well. Maybe it's eternal naivety, but I'm still surprised when I see something blatantly Western/American being adopted so completely here. I recall, when I first arrived two years ago, being shocked at hearing almost all the same music on the radio in the taxi (5 hours to Ivanovo from SVO) as I would in New York, instead of some Russian music.

Anyway, I'm not sure if its a remake or not, but I'm a huge fan of the program, "Sasha i Masha." It just cracks me up.

Z

PS: In the new mall, they opened up a food court that's actually called the "фуд-курт." While things like this make my life a lot easier, it is sad, and I empathize with those who are fighting for the preservation of the Russian culture and language.

[Neonred 3,951]

I saw the talk about American sitcoms being russified but did any of you see "Ne Rodis' Krasivoi" in Russia a few years back? I believe it was the fore runner of "Ugly Betty" here in the US. Looks like it goes both ways with borrowing or selling TV programing.

Edited December 24, 2007 by Neonred

[eekee 182]

I saw the talk about American sitcoms being russified but did any of you see "Ne Rodis' Krasivoi" in Russia a few years back? I believe it was the fore runner of "Ugly Betty" here in the US. Looks like it goes both ways with borrowing or selling TV programing.

ugly betty is based off an argentinian show.

[Neonred 3,951]

I saw the talk about American sitcoms being russified but did any of you see "Ne Rodis' Krasivoi" in Russia a few years back? I believe it was the fore runner of "Ugly Betty" here in the US. Looks like it goes both ways with borrowing or selling TV programing.

ugly betty is based off an argentinian show.

OK, just checked and it was based of a Colombian show that has made the rounds. Looks like the Russians got to it before it made it to the US however.

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

«Не Родись Красивой» was before "Ugly Betty". I really like the theme song, Если В Сердце Живет Любовь by Юлия Савичева. I did not know they were even connected until I mentioned it to my fiancée. She surprised me with, "Oh, they play that all the time. It is music from televison serial."

I saw the talk about American sitcoms being russified but did any of you see "Ne Rodis' Krasivoi" in Russia a few years back? I believe it was the fore runner of "Ugly Betty" here in the US. Looks like it goes both ways with borrowing or selling TV programing.

ugly betty is based off an argentinian show.

OK, just checked and it was based of a Colombian show that has made the rounds. Looks like the Russians got to it before it made it to the US however.

Edited December 25, 2007 by Kazan' Tiger

[shikarnov 7]

«Не Родись Красивой» was before "Ugly Betty". I really like the theme song, Если В Сердце Живет Любовь by Юлия Савичева. I did not know they were even connected until I mentioned it to my fiancée. She surprised me with, "Oh, they play that all the time. It is music from televison serial."

Haven't seen the show, but it's interesting you should mention that song. It was one of the first Russian songs that I didn't need to acquire a taste for liking. I wonder if there are any legal ways to distribute some of this Russian music. I'm sure there are more than a few people who'd be interested -- myself included, since I really hate buying the obviously pirated music available at the bazaars and even sophisticated shops like Soyuz... 100 roubles for the full Genesis collection, yeah right...

Z

Edited December 25, 2007 by shikarnov

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

When I hear a Russian song, it is immediate, I either love it or hate it. I'm getting quite a collection. I also very much like Алсу. Her «Зимний Cон» is great this time of year. I also love the video.

«Не Родись Красивой» was before "Ugly Betty". I really like the theme song, Если В Сердце Живет Любовь by Юлия Савичева. I did not know they were even connected until I mentioned it to my fiancée. She surprised me with, "Oh, they play that all the time. It is music from televison serial."

Haven't seen the show, but it's interesting you should mention that song. It was one of the first Russian songs that I didn't need to acquire a taste for liking. I wonder if there are any legal ways to distribute some of this Russian music. I'm sure there are more than a few people who'd be interested -- myself included, since I really hate buying the obviously pirated music available at the bazaars and even sophisticated shops like Soyuz... 100 roubles for the full Genesis collection, yeah right...

Z

[russ 1]

Regarding MPEGs and WMVs...if I download some movie onto a USA fromat DVD-R disk, a Russian computer DVD disk reader will read the files OK?

The files will be fine. The NAMES of the files may be unreadable, depending on the computer you are using. Any UTF-8 filesystem should be fine. If you don't use a Mac or Linux, that probably means the file names won't show up correctly on a US PC.

With modern computers, this is less of a problem. (And why Unicode/ UTF8 is a good thing).

[shikarnov 7]

Regarding MPEGs and WMVs...if I download some movie onto a USA fromat DVD-R disk, a Russian computer DVD disk reader will read the files OK?

The files will be fine. The NAMES of the files may be unreadable, depending on the computer you are using. Any UTF-8 filesystem should be fine. If you don't use a Mac or Linux, that probably means the file names won't show up correctly on a US PC.

With modern computers, this is less of a problem. (And why Unicode/ UTF8 is a good thing).

What you've said is true when folks have used Unicode to encode their documents, files, and etc.

But I've found that many folks here use either CP-1251 or KOI8-R, with only a few using Unicode (even then Windows generally uses UCS2 and UTF16) . What's more, I've found that PCs are generally able to handle the variance in character-sets the Russians use and display the correct characters. Unfortunately, unless the encoding is Unicode, my Mac frequently hiccups. Ira's brother, for example, brought a flash drive, the volume label of which was written in Cyrillic. On OS X, that volume was read as "________" whereas on Windows (through Boot Camp) it read perfectly. I've had similar experiences with actual files like Word documents, MP3 files, and more. The only problem Windows seemed to have was with pointing to cyrillic folders over a network (go figure).

Even some open source software, like Firefox (in Windows or OSX), really messes up character display unless the web page author used so-called "standards compliant" methods to write their pages. In general, Microsoft's stuff is better at handling variance between good and bad, correct and incorrect, and what we hope will be and what is -- whereas OS X is rather idealist, IMHO.

Assuming he's using Windows, I think our friend seanconneryii will be just fine. Probably he just needs to install the Russian Language Pack.

Z

Edited December 26, 2007 by shikarnov