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Thank you very much JimVaPhuong. I really appreciate that explanation. I guess we will wait and see where they decide to play us.

No I was not offended. I am just in mad scramble mode. I appreciate everybody's questions and answers. I am relieved that computation errors are probably not the issue. I will do a credit check on myself. Bad credit people can't apply? my credit sucks due to a medical bankruptcy issue with my ex.

I should add that my ex is from Japan. Maybe they think I am a mail order bride addict? Out with the old, in with the new... I've gone from rice to potato soup.

I will check my documents, yes I have copies. Katya takes no supplements, and teased me about the "High Potency" antioxidant vitamin bottle I had with me. Said it explained why I could... But thinks such things are necessary. She is very natural.

Received a reply to my final query to Moscow (even after they asked that we not contact them again. pushing my luck.)

"The petition should reach them (NVC)in 4-5 weeks. Please note that this application will remain open while they consider the case."

Does this mean USCIS does not review the case, only NVC? And does it mean that the expiration of the petition in August will be ignored until a decision is made? I have heard from a member who had a very similar situation with Moscow and after waiting several months the USCIS killed the thing without telling them why.

And I have read that if we don't fight it, whatever it is, they can mark her file as a fraud for life and be banned from entering the Land of the Free (for those with money) for life. True? Possibly true? What's up with that?! How do you fight something that you don't know what it is?

I know... "get a top notch immigration attorney"... Just starting the busy season in work so maybe...

Oh Canada, ...

I have no criminal record either. Just one speeding ticket. I have had 3 FBI background checks in my past because I was hired 3 times as a teacher and that is policy. Passed all 3. There is a man that shares a similar name as me on one of the data bases (as I know from every time I cross the border.) I assumed that was why we were in AR for so long.

Katya does no drugs of any kind, not even aspirin. She's a world class gymnast, formerly on Team Russia.

Neither of us can figure out what is inaccurate except my income. I mistakenly listed my "income" as my Net Business Profit (not deducting my self employment tax.) Is that sufficient grounds for refusal and privacy???? Why take so long to decide that obvious calculation mistake? Because they can?

Why do people assume we are not who we say we are???? It's not like we're applying to be King and Queen. We just want to live together for God's sake! It's bloody ridiculous. But I am grateful to all the advice and speculation so I can see how the visa authorities think, plot, and scheme. Thanks!

PS: just kidding. we do want to be K$Q. Please vote for us.

I am very sure Katya is hiding nothing from me. I saw her police report - squeeky clean. She is very transparent. People like her are often misread that they are hiding something when they are just nervous. They know they can be seen right through. Like at an important interview.

I do not see any mention of privacy in the letter sent to her by the Moscow embassy. ??

I have often considered that the interviewing officer has his own opinion about who is worthy. I have crossed the border enough to know that most are doing their jobs very politely and professionally, but some are overly enjoying the power. They do have more power than any other person in the country. Protecting our borders from bad wives and husbands is not easy. We must give them the benefit of the doubt. As that is what they are good at - doubt.

It's very informative to read the speculation from experienced folks. Thanks!

NICE! THINKING OF BRAZIL TOO

Yes, maybe the income calculation is the problem. But why wait 7 months to make that determination? We feel like they toy with us because they can. Can that be true? Or are we just fed up?

It was a bad day yesterday and I was exhausted when I wrote my original post. Yes, two typos, The 221 letter came on Jan 26, 2011. And I was divorced before we applied (Dec 2009) I'm not that naive about the immigration matrix.

I will review our documents very carefully again for the millionth time. I will ask Ekaterina to do the same. We have absolutely no idea what they think is wrong. Hard to believe maybe when I had 2 typos on one form last night. But I am not always sleepy.

We seriously wanted to get married and apply that way. But we were told the k-1 is quicker. So fast we can hardly keep up. Maybe we will just forget about this K-1 nightmare. But I want to be sure there is no fraud marker permanently attached to Ekaterina. Banned for life?! Without a chance to prove our innocence? That's dark ages evil!!

Thanks for the replies everybody... Another day of mind numbing research.

Ekaterina had her interview in Moscow on June 6, 2010. The case went into Administrative Review 10 weeks after that. On January 26, 2010 she received the following shocking letter:

Section 221 (g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) prohibits a consular officer from issuing a visa to an alien if the consular officer has reason to believe that the alien is ineligible. Based on indications that petition (WAC-10-092-50456, MOS2010536012) contains inaccurate information, we are returning it to the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for review and possible revocation. Under INA 222 , which addresses the confidentiality of visa records, we are unable to provide any further detail.

Sincerely,

Immigrant Visa Chief

Our Senator liaison assistant started working on it that day while Moscow sleeps. Senator Murray is awesome!!!!!!

I am thankful for all the information on this forum but I am still confused as to our course of action. We wait for information from USCIS and what it is we are being accused of? I have no idea what it could be they deem "inaccurate."

Some details:

We met on a social site on my birthday, March 10, 2009. We hit it off immediately, writing every day, and after 2 months phoning often. I was still married to my ex, but separated. Ekaterina was divorced and has a son, now 3. Don't know if this matters in a visa case, but she has police records of her ex almost killing her in a severe beating shortly before she filed for divorce. His second major beating.

In July 2010 I went to Russia and we spent 30 wonderful days together. I fell in love. She is the kind of woman I had been looking for since I was 18 (not including my married daze, where I was not in love, but very loyal.) I am now 49. She is 28. That is not an issue with us. She thinks I look young!

I was ignorant of US visa policy and I used to be an eternal optimist until this past year from hell. I invited her to visit me in USA. I wanted to return the favor; she was a wonderful host. Foolish fellow personally invited her on the tourist visa app. What a moron! She went the 600km to Moscow for the interview and called me crying when the rude lady denied her tourist visa. We were both shocked and very upset. It was the first of my many shames of being an American.

I flew back and spent another 30 fabulous days in October 2oo9. This time she fell in love with me. I proposed and presented the diamond ring (I was still an optimist!) She accepted!

I did not consider myself married spiritually, physically, mentally, or emotionally, but i knew I was legally. So I filed for divorce. Before falling in Love with Katya I had no need to divorce. Now I did because we wanted to get the K-1 visa. My divorce was finalized on Dec 30, 2009. That day I bought a new car and called it Liberty.

We had plenty of photographs and excerpts from the 800 pages compiled Word doc of our emails, letters from friends and relatives, letters of intent to marry, train tickets, hotel receipts, plane boarding passes, as evidence of our relationship. The DNA donor who rarely ever sees his biological son signed an affidavit giving permission for the boy to move to the USA. I guess he thought it would get him out of the $20 a month he rarely pays. I hired a lawyer to assist in all the documents. He reviewed and approved them.

At the interview the officer seemed not to care about our evidence of relationship. He laughed when she answered that we communicate in English. He asked about my ex wife who Ekaterina knew not much (nor cared to know)about. But he was concerned about my self employed income and he denied the visa and said we needed a co-sponsor. He told her that's all we need, everything else seems in order.

NOTE TO SELF EMPLOYED PETITIONERS: Immigration gods deem "Income" to be business profit minus self employment tax. And they want a 3 year average. Bank statements showing a good deposit history are irrelevant apparently. Plan 3 years ahead and stop taking all those nice deductions.

After a frantic search we found a co-sponsor. But the case was put into A.R. 7 months later they decided there was fraud. Where, I have no clue. Now in 221(g). Back to step 1???!!!?

ANYBODY HAVE SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT TO DO OR WHAT TO EXPECT OR TIMELINES?!!!!!!!!!??

My just get a job in Turkey where they have a higher value for families..

OOPS! My original had a typo! I was divorced on Dec 30 2009!!! Not 2010!

I know there is another thread on this topic. Maybe I should put this post there? I'm burnt out from a long day of BS and no sleep last night.

Ekaterina had her interview in Moscow on June 6, 2010. The case went into Administrative Review 10 weeks after that. On January 26, 2010 she received the following shocking letter:

Section 221 (g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) prohibits a consular officer from issuing a visa to an alien if the consular officer has reason to believe that the alien is ineligible. Based on indications that petition (WAC-10-092-50456, MOS2010536012) contains inaccurate information, we are returning it to the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for review and possible revocation. Under INA 222 , which addresses the confidentiality of visa records, we are unable to provide any further detail.

Sincerely,

Immigrant Visa Chief

Our Senator liaison assistant started working on it that day while Moscow sleeps. Senator Murray is awesome!!!!!!

I am thankful for all the information on this forum but I am still confused as to our course of action. We wait for information from USCIS and what it is we are being accused of? I have no idea what it could be they deem "inaccurate."

Some details:

We met on a social site on my birthday, March 10, 2009. We hit it off immediately, writing every day, and after 2 months phoning often. I was still married to my ex, but separated. Ekaterina was divorced and has a son, now 3. Don't know if this matters in a visa case, but she has police records of her ex almost killing her in a severe beating shortly before she filed for divorce. His second major beating.

In July 2010 I went to Russia and we spent 30 wonderful days together. I fell in love. She is the kind of woman I had been looking for since I was 18 (not including my married daze, where I was not in love, but very loyal.) I am now 49. She is 28. That is not an issue with us. She thinks I look young!

I was ignorant of US visa policy and I used to be an eternal optimist until this past year from hell. I invited her to visit me in USA. I wanted to return the favor; she was a wonderful host. Foolish fellow personally invited her on the tourist visa app. What a moron! She went the 600km to Moscow for the interview and called me crying when the rude lady denied her tourist visa. We were both shocked and very upset. It was the first of my many shames of being an American.

I flew back and spent another 30 fabulous days in October 2oo9. This time she fell in love with me. I proposed and presented the diamond ring (I was still an optimist!) She accepted!

I did not consider myself married spiritually, physically, mentally, or emotionally, but i knew I was legally. So I filed for divorce. Before falling in Love with Katya I had no need to divorce. Now I did because we wanted to get the K-1 visa. My divorce was finalized on Dec 30, 2010. That day I bought a new car and called it Liberty.

We had plenty of photographs and excerpts from the 800 pages compiled Word doc of our emails, letters from friends and relatives, letters of intent to marry, train tickets, hotel receipts, plane boarding passes, as evidence of our relationship. The DNA donor who rarely ever sees his biological son signed an affidavit giving permission for the boy to move to the USA. I guess he thought it would get him out of the $20 a month he rarely pays. I hired a lawyer to assist in all the documents. He reviewed and approved them.

At the interview the officer seemed not to care about our evidence of relationship. He laughed when she answered that we communicate in English. He asked about my ex wife who Ekaterina knew not much (nor cared to know)about. But he was concerned about my self employed income and he denied the visa and said we needed a co-sponsor. He told her that's all we need, everything else seems in order.

NOTE TO SELF EMPLOYED PETITIONERS: Immigration gods deem "Income" to be business profit minus self employment tax. And they want a 3 year average. Bank statements showing a good deposit history are irrelevant apparently. Plan 3 years ahead and stop taking all those nice deductions.

After a frantic search we found a co-sponsor. But the case was put into A.R. 7 months later they decided there was fraud. Where, I have no clue. Now in 221(g). Back to step 1???!!!?

ANYBODY HAVE SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT TO DO OR WHAT TO EXPECT OR TIMELINES?!!!!!!!!!??

My just get a job in Turkey where they have a higher value for families..

How do we cope? How does one cope with having the heart Yanked from the chest and thrown into separate prisons without doing anything wrong? How does one cope with being banished from the tribe for loving someone from another? How does one cope knowing that another man out there somewhere who has a similar name, who did a very bad thing, is probably happily married, as I sit here bitching while "They" (whoever they are wherever they are) will some day, month, or year, take a half hour to check to be sure I am not him? How does one cope with being told to sit down and shut up and wait for perhaps years, with cold indifferent glares, and no glimpse of a timescale hope other than sheer optimism? We call, we write, everyday, and once a month we howl at the angry moon. And we wait, because, apparently, they all say (a different They), there is nothing else we can do. Thus goes the life in the "Land of the Free" America - lost in the Bushes.

Our case has been in the black hole known as Administrative Review for 7 months. It can take years, so we've found out. Or it might be finished tomorrow. There is no way to know, or plan. I am guilty of being unfit for marriage until They deem otherwise. Stupid name.

Although 100% committed to me, my beloved fiancee is losing hope in her American dream. They refused her tourist visa very rudely, hater lady official saying she had "no friend in America." They refused to approve her K-1 at the interview. She has heard many horror stories about this God sliding land called America. I can get a tourist visa to Russia in one day. (Oh the irony!) We are exploring the options of moving to another country. There some that seem to respect family values. We won't make much money, but we will be together.

Good luck there lonely fellow. That's all we have, other than LOVE, and FAITH.

Other than that I am writing to Mister President. Maybe he will read it. Maybe not. But at least I have to keep trying.

Never give up! That's how I cope.