Lidia & JB

No offense, but I have to say this based on one of the member's comment:
Our relationships are priority. NO one with a reasonable IQ goes through this painful and long process intending to "commit a fraud" or ask for their loved one to come to the states for "Immigration purposes only". Most of us are decent US Citizens, working hard and paying our taxes, and truly love the person we are in a relationship with and they love us back and want them here with us.
"We" most of us, have other obligations here in the States. WE have jobs with maximum of two or three weeks of vacation time. Therefore, taking months off will cause us to lose our jobs. Jobs we need to maintain and make enough money to be able to sponsor our fiances or spouses, otherwise we don't qualify for the "golden visa". "Without money, there is no honey". Most of us have careers and other family obligations, we can't drop everything and move to another country for months at a time, to prove our love for our men or women as real and bonafide .
When we file for the visas, no where does it indicate that we have to live with them for months, or make twenty trips to visit them, or we have to be the same color, or from the same culture, or same age to earn the right to have them join us here. But it seems in "the immigration process" there are many loops and traps, which "WE" as petitioners are not aware of until much later time. When our fees are paid, and months become years of waiting for the miraculous visa to be processed, for the embassy to give interviews, waiting for AP to be over, waiting for the CO to call back the beneficiary over and over to question them. In immigration process "We are guilty until proven innocent", which is such nonsense, but a fact which effects so many of us the petitioners and beneficiaries. WE are not made aware of any of this nonsense at the beginning of the process when we file the applications, it hits us much later when we are up to our neck with "bureaucracy #######" of laws and violations of our civil and constitutional rights. Same laws, which were created to protect us equally, but in this process is crucifying us if we chose to love someone, who is not from "the A list of counties' which are buddy buddy with the USA.
Months at a time together, should not be the bases of approval of a visa. A real relationship, is based on comparability and quality time spent to get to know each other, regardless of how often those visits are or how long. Visas are issued, so couples can join each other in the States to start a life together. A fiance visa is for immigration purposes, for once that fiance is in the states, and married within the 90 days, he or she will become an immigrant...LEGALLY.
Why doesn't the application at the time of the filing, state that we need to spend months with our men or women to be approved. Why doesn't it say, we have to make 5 or 10 trips to prove we love our men or women, or we risk denial based on meeting the minimum of "one visit within two years" from the date of filing the visa petition? This is what the application requires, it doesn't say 10 visits. Why is it okay for an older man to marry a much younger woman, and when an older woman marries a younger men, it is a huge "RED FLAG"?? a reason to deny?
How come we are not told to "FRONT LOAD" and address all the red flags at the time of petitioning? it never says that on the instruction page of the application! We are expected to deliver the full truth, but we are not told about the "TRUTH" of how hard it is to bring our loved ones home? Petitions get approved here and then sent abroad to be denied by COS. Misrepresentation is what we are experiencing, and their intent to deny us should be the one being questioned after a long and unnecessary process, which we are put through. WE are made to feel guilty for what? all we did was to fall in love.
The applications should be revised with what they truly expect from each of us the petitioners, so people would know what they are getting themselves into prior to proceeding with this hell of a journey.
1.If being older by many years is going to result in denial, then let's cut the ####### from the start and save everyone time and money. Let's write it in "ENGLISH" plain and simple, saying "don't waste your time...give up now before you start, for we will deny you anyway." Specially if you are a woman and older". RUN the other way NOW! you are unworthy of the love of a younger man.
2.If Divorced don't bother to apply for it is a "RED FLAG" and you will be made to feel unworthy to marry an unmarried man.
3.If you can't have children, oh boy, you defiantly will not be considered for that golden visa.
4.If are a human being, who fell in love with a man or woman from a different country, which is considered "a high fraud country" then don't even bother yourself for only 2 out of 30 get approved,( I am guessing), for the CO thinks he or she is God, with so much power given to them by the USA government, the same COs that we pay taxes, so they can get paid their salaries.
Interesting enough?
MY heart goes out to all the men and women who have been denied a visa, or are on AP, or on AR, or just finally gave up with the immigration "bureaucracy". For the truth is that we are all victims of a system that has failed us, as citizens of this great country, which I love so much and deeply respect.
All my life, I have lived by the law, lived to be a good example, have worked and obeyed the laws of this wonderful nation 100% and raised wonderful productive family. But now that I have fallen in love with a man, who lives across the world, I am being denied to be with him here, a place I call home.
Is there a simple answer? NO there is none. But one lives with hope that even when we fall in the cracks of this corrupt system, there is a way to get justice and resolution.
I just had to say these things. Thanks.

I'd want to know why she is making war on me. You mentioned this is not the first time, and it was usually over stupid stuff so...
Here is a standard manipulative tactic, designed to anger someone: do something offensive like interfere in a business call by pretending it is impossible to act like an adult and speak normally. Instead of speaking normally after being asked multiple times, do something extreme like kick her friend out, pretending you made her do that so she can then blame you unjustifiably. Maximum non-cooperation.
If you do what they want by reacting in anger then they have you beat. Because now they'll blame you for getting angry and they'll keep repeating this stupid destructive
cycle. When my teenage wife was choosing war like this I have to hand it to her because every time she came to her senses and admitted exactly what she did wrong. I would not have married her if she hadn't.
Counseling was suggested, and one of the benefits of that is the counselor can be an impartial referee and call her selfish, childish acts for what they are. A five year old can lower their voice. Professional non-cooperative people scream when you need quiet, and mumble indecipherably when you need to hear them clearly. It is a conscious act on their part. Think about whether she does it both ways - make you say "What, what, what?" when you are trying to hear what she is saying to you. Neither of these things is an accident. Why are they doing it. There is an answer. "I don't know" is not an answer. Refusing to admit to their behavior is not an answer.
You zeroed in on the most important part: they do it to make you angry. Telling you they don't love you... sheesh. There's some really great intentions, right? So she wants to hurt you. Great feature in a wife. The problem with this behavior is that so long as they decide they want you hurt, angry, exhausted, down - they're going to succeeed in that goal eventually.
The occasional lunacy from pregnancy, post-partem depression or whatever is one thing. A reasonable person comes to their senses and admits they were out of line. But if it is a general pattern of behavior there is something seriouosly wrong. Why is she being so combative and stubborn? Someone suggested bipolar. Someone mentioned drugs. Another possibility is that yeah - she doesn't love you or at least feel like it is worth her while to treat you decently.

Hi there, just a normal copy of all the documents, actually you have to send a double package, 1 with originals and 1 with copies.
Good luck

I'm still here alive and kicking....
Val and Gary...I will say a prayer that all goes well, I'm sure things will go great and you guys will be together in no time!
Saylin! You left me here in Canada!! lol. How are you??? How does it feel to be on the other side of this process?
I got 2 RFEs within the past few months. I finally got this email a little while ago..
All documentation necessary to complete the National Visa Center's processing of your case has been received. As soon as an interview date has been scheduled, the applicant, petitioner and attorney (if applicable) will be notified.
The applicant should NOT make any travel arrangements, sell property, or give up employment until the US Embassy or Consulate General has issued a visa.
The US Embassy or Consulate General may require additional documentation at the time of the interview
Regards,
NVC Document Review Team
National Visa Center
SERCO Inc.
NVCElectronic@state.gov
Follow criteria as outlined on http://travel.state.gov/visa/visa_4409.html
Thank God no more RFEs, I would of just had a breakdown. Does this email mean an SIF will follow soon?
I just want this to be over with. October (the month I plan to move) is so far away, yet I know it will come fast with all the things I have to do take care of before leaving, including our son's American Consular Report of Birth Abroad papers, that we still have yet to do (long story as to why it hasn't been done yet).
I wish everyone the best, it has definitely been a journey!

Hey there...
I got the exact same letter but i will tell u in my case i sent in my DS-230 first... because i wanted to get an RFE(Checklist letter)from NVC...
the reason... without this checklist letter India PCC is not possible...
then about a week later or so i sent in my AOS... they reviewed it on May 6th and was approved...(the operator said i will get another checklist letter)
so finally i got the exact same thing today(last night)...
and before getting this RFE again last night... i already sent in my PCC to them last week...
so not to worry... soon the case will be in final review and closed...
i know its a bit confusing... but hope it helps...

I also got this exact same checklist, three times actually, in the days right before my case completed. The operators told me to ignore it. I got it once on May 3rd and twice on May 4th... on May 5th I found out about the CC. So this could be a good thing or it might not mean anything at all. Good luck!

Wooo my wife and I are approved yessssssssssssssssssss
On March 11, 2011, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I130 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.
For approved applications/petitions, post-decision activity may include USCIS sending notification of the approved application/petition to the National Visa Center or the Department of State. For denied applications/petitions, post-decision activity may include the processing of an appeal and/or motions to reopen or reconsider and revocations.

congrats bro....

Good Morning Family
My Girl's petition was approved 1h ago...TSC is working late...
I will soon be out of the Refugee Camp

Just commented for you Wade. Hope it helps.

If you're on Facebook, I would appreciate if some of you would make a comment on my post (Wade Grant) here: http://www.facebook.com/usembassybkk
Somebody has to listen. Even if the Embassy cannot do anything directly, they can make some inquiries, if they have a heart.
Thanks
No problem zoe, I am being realistic and have become a bit cynical with this fiasco.

I was not planning it to be this fast after all the delay. Im a late August flier, so I figured to wait my turn behind all of you. Im so sorry for everyone here. Please forgive my excitement. Im still hoping and praying for you all.

Thursday, I am praying I get an approval before that. I will go if i dont have one.

quite frankly, even those of you with 100% health and in civil countries could get hit by a car tomorrow so dont take for granted today... tomorrow could never come, so spend as much time with your loved ones even if via phone/computer

My email was very simple, I put the cases #s as email title :
"Dear Sirs,
We have filed the petitions July 27 2010 (NOA1) on November 3 2010 they were transferred from California Service Center to Texas Service Center. We have not had any update on our cases since November 24 2010.
Can you please inform us whether when the petitions are being processed?
Looking forward to having your feedback."
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I've been waiting for so long, they know it, so I think I don't need to write more than what the real situation is as far as they are concerned.

This is so odd...we paid to be TSC hostages