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  1. Hello VJ members, I just got this notification for our case (initially filed w/ CSC)

    "On November 2, 2010, we transferred this case I130 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN to our TEXAS SERVICE CENTER location for processing and sent you a notice explaining this action. Please follow any instructions provided on the notice....".

    This seems a little curious because your timeline says you filed an I-129F. Is that true? Or did you file an I-130?

    There is a lot of discussion about people who were transferred to the Texas Service Center here:

    CSC to TSC

    Good luck! Maybe it will mean quicker processing for you!

  2. I hope that what is indicated for VJ K-1 petitioners is not what is actually happening at CSC. In the past three days the time from NOA1 to NOA2 has gone from 99 days (just like VCS) to 132 days. Maybe that is why they are moving so many IR-1/CR-1 and K-3 to TSC. Just hope that they get it under control and get the process time back down to where VSC is at.

    Although VJ updated its estimate significantly sometime during the past three days, it is a development that has been happening over at least a couple months. It has been clear from August or so until mid-October that VJ statistics revealed that CSC was not really processing many I-129F applications at all. Now there is movement, but I keep hoping for even more. I watch these statistics several times a day hoping to get some insight into what is going on, hoping for a big jump in numbers.

    The transfer of a healthy number of marriage applications to Texas is interesting, and I hope that it means that more CSC staff will be processing I-129Fs.

    When I filed, I saw that the VJ stats seemed to indicate that the NOA2 took a little more than three months (even though CSC's official goal is five months). I have to admit, I really hoped for that three months (or maybe less). Now CSC's time seems to be up to almost that five-month mark. May it quickly move back down to three months (or less). I know some others have expressed that we should just be patient, at least during the first five months, but the waiting and the unknown of it all is draining.

    Wishing all of us strength, patience, and--best yet--a speedy process.

  3. recently moved house at short notice and clearly need to change address with the visa folk. how do you change the address of the alien fiance from one UK address to another UK address because the only online form we can find seems to assume that iv moved to the USA already?

    really bothered about this because dont want any forms and appointments being sent to an address i no longer have any access to.

    Ryna's suggestions might very well be better advice, but I had to do the same thing about a month ago. I had to change the address of my fiancee after NOA1 (and before NOA2). Before I did, I called the USCIS help customer service line twice:

    1. My first call was before the move. The agent told me to just call back, give the address, and they would send the update to the Service Center. (The agent during the second call told me they do not do this.)

    2. During my second call (when I thought I would be providing the new address), the agent gave me different information. I told the agent about my first call, and he confirmed the approach with his supervisor.

    Based on the second call, I actually did the following: The agent told me to write a letter to the Service Center at the address listed on my NOA1. The letter should clearly indicate the new address for your fiance(e) (the beneficiary). I also stated in the letter the date of the move.

    In another thread, I read that, when a fiance(e) changes address, we should later double check with NVC (when your application/file is there) to make sure that the address change actually occurred. This seems consistent with ryna's suggestions.

    Good luck!

  4. if you look at this chart the spike was still going up rapidly and who knows when it might stop. By the way I-821 are temporary protective status visas.

    Interesting analysis. Do you have any information regarding the reason for the recent spike in I-821's?

    Also, the USCIS data only goes through August 2010. A similar spike peaked at about the same amount in January 2009, with a huge drop in February 2009. Is there any information that might indicate how much longer (after August 2010) the spike will continue?

    Of course, California seems to be processing some I-129F's now, but Vermont seems to have slowed.

  5. I don't have a predicted date either although I'm with VSC. It says the same thing about their not being enough data to accurately approximate a date. Is that because of Croatia not having enough data?

    Sorry for the delay in reply. I did not see the notice of your comment.

    Anyway, we both have predicted NOA2 dates now. As seems to be the case right now at least, VSC is about one month ahead of CSC. But CSC seems to be picking up. I am happy about that, even if I would still like them to speed up more...

    As for the delay in the predicted date for you, I think it was just that your NOA1 date was on the later end of September. The VJ system seems to need some time before it will predict an NOA2 date. I do not think it was because of Croatia. I don't think VJ takes the country into effect at the USCIS stage.

    Good luck, and best wishes for a speedy process!

  6. Based on timeline data, your I129f may be adjudicated between December 22, 2010 and January 22, 2011*. booo how does it go back almost a whole month just depressing *big sigh*.... Also had them change Nigel's birth country on the receipt to UK hope that doesnt pull me out of line and put me further back! customer service asurred me it wouldn't but I am not so sure :(

    At least those of you at VSC have a predicted date. We have the same NOA1 date (September 8, 2010), but because CSC has so little recent data, VJ's "prediction" on my timeline is as follows:

    "There are not enough recent approvals in the timeline system to accurately approximate when your I-129f will be approved. Please see the Timeline Stats page to see recent approvals."

    Even so, I don't know how much weight to put in these predicted dates anyway. I wouldn't worry too much about it. It seems a difficult thing to predict, especially this early.

    By the way, I also had to correct my fiancee's Country of Birth on my NOA1. Although I had listed it on the application, the NOA1 said "Unknown." They issued me a new receipt, but the new receipt did not even list "Country of Birth."

    Moreover, my fiancee switched apartments, so I also had to update her address recently.

    I was also told that neither correction/update would delay the time for processing the application. I'm with you--I certainly hope so.

  7. Good luck with yours too!

    http://www.visajourn...tion=3&sortby=2

    This link references I-130's filed at CSC. Where can you refine the search to include only spouses?

    Sorry for the delay. I did not see your question in the copy of your post that was sent to my e-mail.

    Anyway, my understanding (but I am no expert) is that, by definition, IR-1 and CR-1 visas are only for spouses. You might use the I-130 application for other family members, but the visa you would be requesting is a little different. The visa differs depending on the family member's relation to the applicant USC. For example:

    • - IR-1: Spouse of a U.S. Citizen

    • - IR-2: Unmarried Child Under 21 Years of Age of a U.S. Citizen

    • - IR-3: Orphan adopted abroad by a U.S. Citizen

    • - IR-4: Orphan to be adopted in the U.S. by a U.S. citizen

    • - IR-5: Parent of a U.S. Citizen who is at least 21 years old

    The VJ report to which I linked states it is reporting I-130 applications for IR-1/CR-1 visas.

  8. "Thus, it seems that CSC is at a virtual standstill with I-129Fs right now."

    Great job at crunching the numbers and I think the above quote says it all. And that's why I posted this thread; not to dispute that others have waited much longer, or that the highly motivated workers at CIS aren't doing their best, but to merely find out if there was an explanation to the "virtual standstill." After all, we as citizens have a right to know how and what a government agency spends our tax dollars on and the methodology it employs to service us, don't we?

    Those are great questions, but I don't think the answers will be flowing. Maybe you could try a Freedom of Information Act request. I wonder how long that would take?

    I think the best we can get is an educated guess that CSC felt the need to catch up on other even more delayed applications. I don't know that that kind of decision is necessarily unreasonable, but it sucks for us.

    I remain hopeful that CSC will resume processing I-129Fs and that they will move those applications quickly. Too much of an optimist? Perhaps.

  9. There are members here filing I-130's for people other than their spouses.

    Of course there are. But the VJ statistics I linked to regarding I-130s in my previous post in this thread relate to only I-130s for spouses. My only point is that makes the statistics I was discussing different (a smaller subset) than the USCIS statistics about I-130s that Geode was discussing.

    Good luck with your application(s)!

  10. I certainly would like CSC to start processing more I-129Fs. Of course, most of us would like this process to move more quickly. Long distance relationships are more difficult and less rewarding than in-person. There is nothing wrong with wanting that.

    At the same time, I don't know enough to criticize CSC or how it focuses on its workload.

    That being said, I have been trying to figure out what is going on. Here are a couple posts from other threads on similar subjects:

    I am one of the masses who wants CSC to start moving on I-129Fs. When? I hope soon!

    Here is my post that outlines the I-130 / IR-1 / CR-1 theory:

    I have posted this a couple times this past week, but is fits this thread, too:

    I check the progress several times each day to try to determine what CSC is doing.

    Based in VJ reports, it seems CSC is focused on I-130s (IR-1/CR-1) applications, with up to five or six receiving an NOA2 each day.

    You can see this in the following link:

    CSC - I-130 status

    Meanwhile, the 1-129Fs are having little or no movement. You can watch CSC's processing of I-129Fs here:

    CSC - I-129F status

    I cannot wait until 1-129Fs pick up again...

    This info seems a lot more detailed than the table of "Approximate Processing Dates" that you find when you click on "Immigration Timelines." I don't really understand how that table is put together. The dates for CSC change by several weeks at a time sometimes on that chart, even though little seems to be happening on the more detailed reports based on the links above.

    Good luck to all! May your love endure, and your visa come quickly!

    I would very much like CSC to be processing I-129Fs, just like almost all of us. But, unfortunately, we have no control over what is happening or how CSC distributes staff/workload. I wish I did. I know which file would have top priority! (Along with everyone else in this thread and related ones.) :thumbs: But, alas, ...

    and...

    Well, to be more clear, one of the features of VJ is that multiple people are self-reporting their application processing timelines. If the information is good enough and there is a large enough sample, we can get an idea of what is happening with CSC's overall caseload.

    My opinion is that VJ has sufficient reliability in its self-reports and a large enough sample to give us a pretty good idea. Of course, the information is a little imperfect, because people make errors or don't update their timelines or whatever. But for I-129Fs, if you look at the reports from the links (the longer ones, organized by NOA1 issued by each month, approved and unapproved petitions), there are approximately 80-90 or so applications being reported each month for CSC. Similarly, for I-130s, there seem to be about 60-70 or so applications being reported each month for CSC. And from the history, VJ participants seem to follow through with reporting timeline updates at a rate of at least 80-90%.

    Moreover, from these same charts (the longer ones--or even the bar graphs), you can see that CSC has processed most I-129s through May 2010, and most I-130s through April 2010. This seems to show that CSC is a little further behind in processing the I-130s--about a month (assuming the timelines for each of these applications typically would be similar).

    MOST NOTABLY, based on the top reports from the links (Last 15 Approved Applications), we can see that CSC is reported to have approved only three or four I-129Fs (i.e., CSC issued the NOA2) from VJ participants during the ENTIRE PAST MONTH. To keep up with the filings, at the 80-90% reporting rate, CSC would have to approve about 70 or so applications each month. Thus, it seems that CSC is at a virtual standstill with I-129Fs right now.

    For I-130s, CSC is reported to have approved four to six I-130s (again, by issuing an NOA2) from VJ participants EACH BUSINESS DAY. (Please note that I am disregarding reports from the last couple days, in case VJ participants need more time to self-report their updates.) This would equal about 80-100 approvals of VJ participants per month (assuming an average of four to five each day, with about 20 business days in the month). Thus, CSC seems to be processing I-130s at a solid pace.

    Does that make more sense? Or is it too many numbers? :wacko:

    I don't look at the numbers to criticize anyone. I do it because I want to have an idea about how long the wait will be. I saw that not much was happening at CSC, and then I have been looking for explanations and comparisons. I've looked at VSC and then the I-130s, which led me to the theory above.

    At this point, I just keep looking in hopes of discovering that CSC has started processing I-129Fs more regularly. We're all still waiting...

  11. I looked on the USCIS at the number of 129fs approved at VSC and CSC. The volume charts show the latest month. For July, CSC is reporting 1984 approvals. VSC is reporting 3019 approvals. CSC reports 16,277 I-130 for immediate relatives. That supports your analysis of 129 versus 130 petitions. VJ shows about 75 approvals for I130 in july. It gets fuzzy from there for me. The USCIS site reports on at least two types of I130s, the VJ site separates K3 and IR1/CR1. That makes it more difficult to see if the VJ data can be thought of as a decent subset of the USCIS data.

    I guess that in the long run (no pun intended) looking at the numbers is way to pass the time until CSC gets off their bums and does what they are paid to do - process K1 petitions as well as others.

    Thank you! That helps. I just find USCIS's presentation to be less helpful (not to mention a few months behind).

    As for the I-130 information from USCIS, my understanding is that USCIS is presenting any and all I-130s, which can be used for other family members, not just spouses. So the USCIS information includes all these applications, while the VJ stats to which I provided the link involve I-130 applications only for spouses.

    Looking at the numbers doesn't help me pass the time. I do it because I want to have an idea about how long the wait will be. I saw that not much was happening, and then I have been looking for explanations and comparisons. I've looked at VSC and then the I-130s, which led me to the theory in my previous post.

    At this point, I just keep looking in hopes of discovering that CSC has started processing I-129Fs more regularly. We're all still waiting...

  12. Just giving this one more try.

    Here is an interesting page at USCIS: http://dashboard.usc...e=2&charttype=1

    Comparing the charts for VSC and CSC makes it clear that if your papers are at CSC you are just SOL.

    Of course, that is assuming the data for the charts are accurate and up-to-date. Notice that the year is not listed and that the charts stop at what appears to be July 10. Don't bother downloading the raw data. It is only the numbers displayed on the charts, not the data used to create the charts.

    I actually have trouble being able to compare much between VSC and CSC from the charts on the official link from USCIS.

    It is interesting to see, however, that CSC receives about 2,000 I-129F applications each month.

  13. Thanks, I had seen your post before but did not know enough yet to understand it. Maybe I still do not, but it is still clear that CSC has problems.

    Well, to be more clear, one of the features of VJ is that multiple people are self-reporting their application processing timelines. If the information is good enough and there is a large enough sample, we can get an idea of what is happening with CSC's overall caseload.

    My opinion is that VJ has sufficient reliability in its self-reports and a large enough sample to give us a pretty good idea. Of course, the information is a little imperfect, because people make errors or don't update their timelines or whatever. But for I-129Fs, if you look at the reports from the links (the longer ones, organized by NOA1 issued by each month, approved and unapproved petitions), there are approximately 80-90 or so applications being reported each month for CSC. Similarly, for I-130s, there seem to be about 60-70 or so applications being reported each month for CSC. And from the history, VJ participants seem to follow through with reporting timeline updates at a rate of at least 80-90%.

    Moreover, from these same charts (the longer ones--or even the bar graphs), you can see that CSC has processed most I-129s through May 2010, and most I-130s through April 2010. This seems to show that CSC is a little further behind in processing the I-130s--about a month (assuming the timelines for each of these applications typically would be similar).

    MOST NOTABLY, based on the top reports from the links (Last 15 Approved Applications), we can see that CSC is reported to have approved only three or four I-129Fs (i.e., CSC issued the NOA2) from VJ participants during the ENTIRE PAST MONTH. To keep up with the filings, at the 80-90% reporting rate, CSC would have to approve about 70 or so applications each month. Thus, it seems that CSC is at a virtual standstill with I-129Fs right now.

    For I-130s, CSC is reported to have approved four to six I-130s (again, by issuing an NOA2) from VJ participants EACH BUSINESS DAY. (Please note that I am disregarding reports from the last couple days, in case VJ participants need more time to self-report their updates.) This would equal about 80-100 approvals of VJ participants per month (assuming an average of four to five each day, with about 20 business days in the month). Thus, CSC seems to be processing I-130s at a solid pace.

    Does that make more sense? Or is it too many numbers? :wacko:

  14. I am one of the masses who wants CSC to start moving on I-129Fs. When? I hope soon!

    Here is my post that outlines the I-130 / IR-1 / CR-1 theory:

    I have posted this a couple times this past week, but is fits this thread, too:

    I check the progress several times each day to try to determine what CSC is doing.

    Based in VJ reports, it seems CSC is focused on I-130s (IR-1/CR-1) applications, with up to five or six receiving an NOA2 each day.

    You can see this in the following link:

    CSC - I-130 status

    Meanwhile, the 1-129Fs are having little or no movement. You can watch CSC's processing of I-129Fs here:

    CSC - I-129F status

    I cannot wait until 1-129Fs pick up again...

    This info seems a lot more detailed than the table of "Approximate Processing Dates" that you find when you click on "Immigration Timelines." I don't really understand how that table is put together. The dates for CSC change by several weeks at a time sometimes on that chart, even though little seems to be happening on the more detailed reports based on the links above.

    Good luck to all! May your love endure, and your visa come quickly!

    I would very much like CSC to be processing I-129Fs, just like almost all of us. But, unfortunately, we have no control over what is happening or how CSC distributes staff/workload. I wish I did. I know which file would have top priority! (Along with everyone else in this thread and related ones.) :thumbs: But, alas, ...

    - from the thread: Any recent approvals from CSC?

  15. Great! So now I wonder if the better road would have been to get married and file a I-130 since they seem to be processing them faster now :wacko: Too late for that! I have chosen my poison and need to stick to it.

    For the most part, it is my understanding that neither is necessarily faster. If you look at the timelines for CSC's processing of I-130s overall, they have a larger gap of time between the NOA1s and the NOA2s compared to the I-129Fs. That might be the reason that CSC seems to be trying to catch those up a bit. I still think the I-129F was an acceptable choice.

    The other non-strategic issue for me is that I do not really want to spend the first six months or so of my marriage living apart. I definitely want to live with my fiancee right after our marriage.

  16. I have posted this a couple times this past week, but is fits this thread, too:

    I check the progress several times each day to try to determine what CSC is doing.

    Based in VJ reports, it seems CSC is focused on I-130s (IR-1/CR-1) applications, with up to five or six receiving an NOA2 each day.

    You can see this in the following link:

    CSC - I-130 status

    Meanwhile, the 1-129Fs are having little or no movement. You can watch CSC's processing of I-129Fs here:

    CSC - I-129F status

    I cannot wait until 1-129Fs pick up again...

    This info seems a lot more detailed than the table of "Approximate Processing Dates" that you find when you click on "Immigration Timelines." I don't really understand how that table is put together. The dates for CSC change by several weeks at a time sometimes on that chart, even though little seems to be happening on the more detailed reports based on the links above.

    Good luck to all! May your love endure, and your visa come quickly!

    I would very much like CSC to be processing I-129Fs, just like almost all of us. But, unfortunately, we have no control over what is happening or how CSC distributes staff/workload. I wish I did. I know which file would have top priority! (Along with everyone else in this thread and related ones.) :thumbs: But, alas, ...

  17. I had someone tell me that there was some kind of allocation of visas for certain types for the fiscal year. Could it be that they ran out of visas allocated and it is only now that a new fiscal year has begun that they will start approving K-1's again? I sent my I-129f on Oct 1 (not planned, it just happened that way. I am looking for some ray of hope that the process may speed up considerably.

    There are annual quotas/limits for some visas, but not all. My understanding is that there are no quotas for K-1 visas.

  18. I just had to change the address of my fiancee after NOA1 (and before NOA2). Before I did, I called the USCIS help customer service line twice:

    1. My first call was before the move. The agent told me to just call back, give the address, and they would send the update to CSC. (The agent during the second call told me they do not do this.)

    2. During my second call (when I thought I would be providing the new address), the agent gave me different information. I told the agent about my first call, and he confirmed the approach with his supervisor.

    Based on the second call, I actually did the following: The agent told me to write a letter to CSC at the address listed on my NOA1 (US Citizenship and Immigration Services, California Service Center, PO Box 30111, Laguna Niguel, CA 92607-0111). The letter should clearly indicate the new address for your fiancee (the beneficiary). I also stated in the letter the date of the move.

    I asked the same question to both agents about potential delay. I was told the update would not cause any delay.

    In another thread, I read that, when a fiancee changes her address, we should later double check with NVC (when your application/file is there) to make sure that the address change actually occurred.

    Good luck!

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