Hicham♥Sara

It is a lot of steps, but we got it done in two weeks. It usually has to be done in the city which he resides and is on his ID card.

I really don't want to make this, worse for you and I'm sorry if this is hard to hear. They are sending it back to USCIS. Your best bet is to go there and get married. If you have friends and family that support your relationship maybe they can help you and your children go to Morocco. I am six years into this, a denied K1, tried to get answers from Consulate, USCIS, My Senator. I still to this day do not know why they sent our petition back to uscis, I can only guess, all they would ever tell me is it is under review. Two years later, Even when I asked for the K1 to be withdrawn as a formality I still got a vague letter saying the K1 was now expired and no explanation. They will not tell you. I can tell you this, they question the validity of your relationship, maybe not on your end but his. For whatever reason. Think of any red flags they might question. I knew ours and we took a risk. The K1 is not as strong because you have no legal rights so they can deny for subjective reasons. They are testing your relationship to see if he will stay after this denial. I promise you the best decision you can make for your sanity and for the fastest strongest case is to go there, get married. I'm sorry. I really am, trust me I lived this nightmare. I too am a single mom of two girls. Feel free to message me. I'm sorry :'(

I know how hard it is to get married in Morocco but IMHO, if you want a fighting chance, CR-1.

I know how hard it is to get married in Morocco but IMHO, if you want a fighting chance, CR-1.

1 year and 3 months, since we saw each other last. It is absolute torture. The longest we went though was 1 year and 8 months. I pray that we don't go that long again. We have been together about 6 years now and I have visited 5 times. Our K-1 we filed was never approved for visa, and was sent back for review and that was the last of it. We have submitted our CR-1 on Sept 29th, 2015. It was sent to California but is now in a local office here in Virginia. Obviously, the sooner they process this the better, I prefer to save money than to have to spend more on another trip, but we can't go but so long without seeing each other. Despite this grueling wait, we are encouraged and know that the end of separation is more near than far. We have made it through this, I believe we can make it through anything. God is with us.

Sent September 29th, got NOA 1 on Oct 5th.

Back and stronger than ever submitted our I 130!!!

My mistake was not addressing it properly in the original K-1 petition, I thought it was best he explain his life himself, but that was wrong. My mistake for having to much faith in the interview process and not knowing the proper way to address that red flag. It's going to be OK though.

Yes that is correct. We both were married to the wrong person for us, before. But we don't go through experiences like that without learning something, and it makes us appreciate what we have even more.

Oh my Goodness!!!!!! THIS PROCESS!! I hope it goes fast for you. I have a close friend waiting at NVC stage right now , and I pray for comfort for everyone during these extremely trying times. We have had our K-1 petition sent back so I am trying to get to my fiance to finally just get married and start a new process maybe... oh man !! THIS IS SO CRAZY! Hang in there!!!!! I would say if you have made enough income already this year to cover the amount needed for sponsorship, and you have the resources to go over there, I would go!! Or find a co-sponsor! The CO can review the new paperwork if necessary. Sometimes mental health decisions are the best ones to make. God be with you.

At this point, if it were me, I would disclose, after all it is now available on a public forum, and I do not doubt for one minute that CO's check Visa Journey to see what people say/ask.

Sorry to hear of this happening to you.... :/

Haha I realize our story has a lot of details and see it clearly takes time to get to know us!!!! I wish the CO cared JUST a little bit to try.... oh well... keep moving forward. If our God is with us than who can stand against us... I just want to say thanks to every single person on this thread for the support and concern!!

I am sorry that it was not clear. I was legally married when we met. I have been divorced officially since 2011. I was separated in 2009 but in Virginia you must wait a year before you can start divorce proceedings. Hicham and I are both free to Marry. I filed our K-1 in Nov. 2013.

Oh wow, I am so sorry some of you guys have to go through that:( that is just so sad.

On a positive side, you will appreciate the relationship you have even more when you are together as you went through really touch times and maybe toughest time in your life. A lot of people who just met their significant other at work, school, or any other places from the same town, will not know this feelings and to my opinion it is harder for them to maintain and value their relationship.

What I don't get is how USCIS approves it without any questions and then only on interview there are Red Flags come up. you would think that USCIS would help you and get any explanations before they hand it to the embassy to help us Americans be prepared:(

I thought the most difficult thing was USCIS and 129f approval and was excited that I am done with the process. Now i am very scared and will be bugging my fianceee a lot to go over any freaking possible details about my life and her life:( I would not survive 4-5 years without her. I would end up moving somewhere else but USA. I love USA to death and probably would regret that desicion for the rest of my life, but I can not waste so many happy years of my life. My case is easier tho. we are younger, no kids etc.

Oh my, don't even want to think about denial:(

You would think that they would be more helpful too, saying hey this is suspect, so before we send it to the consulate do you want to explain more?

But it is a game, without published rules. A gauntlet.

Marry and CR1?

Yes, but I would like to at least consider the options that are possibly available with this petition and how I might approach a refiling of a K-1. So many changes are happening right now with school, possibly a change in jobs, and things happening with my children, and of course the cost, it may be until spring 2015 that I can even consider making another trip to Morocco. I thought I might be able to do it between semesters but if I start a new job, I probably won't be able to take the time. So complicated.... :/

I did mention her and that he was upfront about his relationship, as was I ( since I was still legally married , waiting for my year of separation) but I did not go into details, so I didn't say I knew about the previous petition. UGH! Mine was done at the Texas service center. And Just today I did get this email from USCIS:

Application Type: I129F , PETITION FOR FIANCE(E)


Your Case Status: Post Decision Activity


On July 1, 2014, a USCIS office received this case from the State Department with a request that we review it. We will notify you when we complete our review, or if we need something from you. If you move while this case is pending, please use our Change of Address online tool to update your case with your new address or call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283.


For approved applications/petitions, post-decision activity may include USCIS sending notification of the approved application/petition to the National Visa Center or the Department of State. For denied applications/petitions, post-decision activity may include the processing of an appeal and/or motions to reopen or reconsider and revocations.

I know I may get a letter saying that it has expired and at that point, my only option is to re-file. But are there other routes that may be possible? Thanks for any advice.

Or maybe she never actually withdrew the petition and he got one of those automatic fraud markers talked about on Marc Ellis blog? One of the things he told me about her and a point of contention between them was that she was not on top of the process once it was in AP, as she was not the kind of person "who liked to talk on the phone". We all know you can't sit out this process and not call /write / harass to make sure it is moving.

@destiny64 this is possible and i definitely never ruled it out. In fact it's not like she had nice things to say about him when I indirectly contacted her myself. But she never said anything that he didn't already tell me himself, never has he lied or been sketchy. I just feel in cases like this, especially with the time and money and lives invested, it should be more comprehensive of an interview / process once it reaches the Consulate. But whatever, let the games continue!

Yes Thank God for people here, and in the Visa Journey group on Facebook, and my lovely friends who I have met who have gone through this process already to get real information from. Otherwise, Good Grief! I was thinking to myself, I can't believe I know more about this process than this guy on the phone. I'll give it to him though he genuinely seemed to care , and was concerned enough and tried to be encouraging. He was nice, but for sure he was just reading off the computer.

Oy ve.

You mentioned in an earlier post that he had been refused under 221 g.

Most likely the petition will be returned and expire.

And it is sad that I could not even get this straight answer today from USCIS , the guy on the phone was SURE that everything was going to be fine. lol.

He told me that they will definitely send me a list of reasons so that I can reply to it. I know that is not true.

Our goal is for me to go back to Morocco and get married there officially! It is just having the ability to make that happen that is getting in the way. It was not as easy as it was before. I can not walk away from my business without someone to take over, and right now there is nobody to take over, plus working around my, and my girls school schedules.

Thanks for this info, I know that this is the REAL truth!

@ Destiny64 I never thought of that point , thank you for explaining that to me. I swear, it feels like a game, and you don't have all the rules. I just wish that the process was more comprehensive, especially with cases like ours that do require a little more time to understand. I completely and totally get that in black and white, it looks bad. I am not that person. I know that they have a hard job, I just expected more from the process, and my country, especially since they know all the years and time, and my live and money and my children's time that has been invested in this and that I MYSELF did not take this lightly and I really hoped that they would have treated him differently in the interview, and especially involved me more. I feel that if the time was taken, and he was given the proper opportunity to answer questions, she would have understood a little better. And also the way things go after the interview, is really not fair for the USC. Let's say she does know something that I don't know, ( even though I know it is what I have mentioned) I feel that it should be prudent for them to inform USC's of the information they are using to deny, because we are the ones that have to continue the relationship with the beneficiaries and make the decision on what to do next. Seeing that I have invested 4 and a half years of my life into this, can you please let a girl know whats up? The man has never been to the US to commit visa fraud and again, he didn't get the code for all the real reasons why he should not be here.

They wanna talk about fraud? My ex husband lied to me about his religion (among a lot of other things) to be with me, we get pregnant and I live a life with a man who is pretending to be someone he is not. He even practices my religion with me, and 7 years later he resents me for his lie, and needs to go back to being who he truly is in his old life, with his old girlfriend. That is fraud, and he was born and raised right here in Virginia.

UGH.

Yes he was married to a USC before, and they broke up, it was the right choice for both of them. You don't move to a new country when your relationship is rocky and that is the only person you will know. He had to get his divorce paper from Morocco (we already had the US paper that I obtained copies of) so that we could marry there. As you know in Morocco, you can go to an office and get told one thing and then go back and get told another. He should have had the final paper he needed by the time I was there, but getting the run around as they do, they said it would be another 21 days for it to be finalized. In Morocco you can get around the rules sometimes with a little hand to hand encouragement. He never takes that route and I stand by his convictions. Although now I am regretting this because from what I see lately, some KNOWN slimeballs are getting through with K-1s even though they are shady. I knew this was going to be an issue, and my mistake in my petition was not addressing it enough, because I thought it was best for them to hear from him not me, when they asked the questions, but I chose wrongly. I should have elaborated more that I knew about all of the things, because every question she asked him, she cut him off before he could explain properly. I knew from practically day one, did my own digging and my own research and the man has NEVER lied to me about anything. We believe they were in AP for a long time, and neither one of us have any idea what happened with that petition exactly, whether it was just left in la la land or if she called to withdraw it. He did inquire about it when we first met , because I was curious about his legal standings ( of course!) as I started to get involved with him beyond friendship, and I encouraged him to find out what he could. The CO even asked about this inquiry and I think of course she thinks badly of it, and it sounds like she did not believe him when he told her I asked him to do it, because he emailed to check the status of his previous case, a few months after we met. It is a GRAY situation that was handled in a black and white kind of way. If the CO believed that I didn't know about a previous case, why not call me and ask me? Hicham is a very honest person, and I know they have no REAL reason to deny him entry, because there is a code for all of that.... She just was "not convinced". So we just have to keep trying to convince them. I did get a letter back from the senator and he was told by Casablanca in an email that our petition was sent back for "further review of the relationship." Now what? I call USCIS and the guy tried to tell me that everything is fine and that this is part of the normal process.... WOW...

Filled out same day, sent with this letter. The representative also already contacted me to tell me what they can do which is only find out why we were denied. :/

Yes thank you. One of the most heartbreaking things to see was my daughter break down and cry when I told her her Chickin Nugget (Hicham) was not coming. They adore him just as he adores them. Ahhh *shaking fist* they won't get us. Guess we get to ask God to move to get the three of us back to beautiful Morocco again.

Yes thank you. One of the most heartbreaking things to see was my daughter break down and cry when I told her her Chickin Nugget (Hicham) was not coming. They adore him just as he adores them. Ahhh *shaking fist* they won't get us. Guess we get to ask God to move to get the three of us back to beautiful Morocco again.

What God holds together, no one and nothing can tear it apart