Mr. Big Dog

Confederate Gay Pride!

Looks like you guys had a lot of fun. Couldn't happen to nicer folks.

I think the memorials themselves can honor them without the flag personally. You are right though in that the majority of soldiers were not slave owners (I think less than 3% were owners).
Lee, Pickett etc were anti slavery.

It stood for slavery. And that is why it cannot fly alongside other flags. Plain. And. Simple.

Flying the flag that stood for slavery on public property is glorifying that history. And that's just wrong. I know that some will see it differently. Some even today still don't see black people as equal - or as human even. And those folks relish in that glorification. I don't believe they deserve that opportunity. Plain and simple. There are history books and museums. And that is where this stuff belongs so that we may not forget that dark chapter of American history.

Sadly, this is evident in this latest mass shooting. The comments and the way the media has been handling things shows us once again that being black in this country, even when you've done nothing wrong, you can still be blamed for your death and sympathy is asked for the killer's family.
I'm disgusted that these people killed in a house of God have been portrayed as sitting around waiting for their deaths. Or the pastor was at fault because he didn't want guns inside the church. Or even the fact the judge presiding over the case reminded people to pray for the other victims, the shooter's parents.

There's no whitewashing of history in Germany. The country does in no way pretend that the atrocities of Nazi Germany didn't happen. Quite the opposite is the case. Glorifying and idolizing it, that's what is illegal. And rightfully so. It'as nothing to be proud of. Same goes for the history of slavery. It's nothing to be proud of at all.

Flying the flag that stood for slavery on public property is glorifying that history. And that's just wrong. I know that some will see it differently. Some even today still don't see black people as equal - or as human even. And those folks relish in that glorification. I don't believe they deserve that opportunity. Plain and simple. There are history books and museums. And that is where this stuff belongs so that we may not forget that dark chapter of American history.

There's no whitewashing of history in Germany. The country does in no way pretend that the atrocities of Nazi Germany didn't happen. Quite the opposite is the case. Glorifying and idolizing it, that's what is illegal. And rightfully so. It'as nothing to be proud of. Same goes for the history of slavery. It's nothing to be proud of at all.

History book. That's a good place for the flag.

Looks like you guys had a lot of fun. Couldn't happen to nicer folks.

There's no whitewashing of history in Germany. The country does in no way pretend that the atrocities of Nazi Germany didn't happen. Quite the opposite is the case. Glorifying and idolizing it, that's what is illegal. And rightfully so. It'as nothing to be proud of. Same goes for the history of slavery. It's nothing to be proud of at all.

There's no whitewashing of history in Germany. The country does in no way pretend that the atrocities of Nazi Germany didn't happen. Quite the opposite is the case. Glorifying and idolizing it, that's what is illegal. And rightfully so. It'as nothing to be proud of. Same goes for the history of slavery. It's nothing to be proud of at all.

So there could be places where Nazi flags should be flown in Germany to honor the fallen Wehrmacht soldiers?

So there could be places where Nazi flags should be flown in Germany to honor the fallen Wehrmacht soldiers?

A sign equates the confederate flag with the nazi flag as people attend a protest in support of a confederate flags removal from the South Carolina capitol grounds.

It's been 150 years since the Civil War officially ended, but take a trip to certain regions in the south and you might get a different impression.

Especially in the wake of last week's shooting in South Carolina, the Confederate battle flag has become an iconic and often unwelcome reminder that race relations in the US still face a staggering uphill battle.
But some people still wave the flag with pride, and Georgetown University law professor Paul Butler has some words for those people.
On a Monday episode of "The Diane Rehm Show," a caller said that her Confederate ancestors deserve respect, even though the Confederate flag represents "racial hatred."
To which Butler replied:
"I have no respect for your ancestors. As far as your ancestors are concerned, I shouldn't be a law professor at Georgetown. I should be a slave. That's why they fought that war. I don't understand what it means to be proud of a legacy of terrorism and violence.
Last week at this time, I was in Israel. The idea that a German would say, you know, that thing we did called the Holocaust, that was wrong, but I respect the courage of my Nazi ancestors. That wouldn't happen.
The reason people can say what you said in the United States, is because, again, black life just doesn't matter to a lot of people."
Butler isn't alone in that bleak assessment.
Just ask the students at the University of Texas, who recently spray-painted "Black Lives Matter" on a Confederate statue.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/georgetown-law-professor-just-perfectly-223100907.html

Sing it Mr. President...

Is anyone guarding the bridges? Would hate to see them jump off them in droves.

It becomes ever more clear why the GOP has to be the stupid party.

You guys are in the wrong thread. Go here: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/554533-supreme-court-rules-states-must-allow-same-sex-marriage/

Is anyone guarding the bridges? Would hate to see them jump off them in droves.