visawandering

TJ 4EVER, on 12 January 2011 - 04:38 AM, said:

wow...I'm skeptical in believing you at this point. If you are being truthful I'm sorry to hear about your experience but imagine how much more helpful everyone could have been for you if you would have tried truth on for size. You would have (and if you are being honest now can still have) the support from all who are compassionate. Are you still in the US? give us the truth and maybe you can benefit from this forumOP, do you see how kind other VJ posters can still be, even in the face of such deception? The only answer to your situation remains this: You must leave the U.S. before the expiration of your I-94.

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Girl, if youre being honest to what you have been thru this time, i feel sorry for you.

your story of him leaving you at the airport and told you to find your way home still doesnt make sense. Is he that bad really?

how long have you known him?

how many times did you meet?

Im sure he did visit you and probably even met your family for them to force you of marrying him right?

are you trying to say you never had any intimate times with him for you to say you saved it to the man you "loved"?

Havent you noticed anything in his behavior during his visit?

Its kindna weird how one person would totally turn to be an "#######" the very first day you arrived right?

Bottom line is, the decision of you calling your "other" bf is a bad news.

for all you know, the petitioner already informed immigration officers of you running away.

living with your "beloved" other bf made it more worst.

the moment you have decided not to marry your petitioner, you should have ask him to send you back home that way your records are clean incase you decide to have another attempt to enter the US.

The other members of VJ have made a very clear answer to what you should do and sadly theres no other way around it.

your plan of another K1 is quite very questionable unless you go home now and start to build a bonafide relationship that you can present when that day comes.

GOODLUCK!

i knew the petitioner since october of 2009, we talked one to two times a week online. i did notice his behavior, but i was trying to be strong for my family. when he tried to forice me to have sex for days and my mom said i should plese him. i told him that we could have ####### sex to keep my virgin, but i still could not go through with it; although he physically tried for some seconds while i shook and cried. i did not want to give him virginity, every moment he touched me was torture. i thought that my love would hate me forever and leave me, but he accepts me and understands. i have defied my family and given up their support and marrying this other man for him. i was hoping not to reveal my whole story.

From this post it appears the young lady arrived with the intent to participate in a sham marriage and both she and the petitioner are guilty of conspiracy to commit marriage fraud..... or they can at least be charged with conspiring to defraud the US. Be absolutely honest about this when speaking with any lawyer you retain.... and you will need a lawyer.... as you are dealing with a house of cards.

As for the members who are posting for entertainment value.... please stop. This thread is dangerously close to a permanent closure.

ok, i am the filipina. my family wanted me to marry for money and i agreed to. but i loved another man. my k1 petitioner did leave me at the airport, half a day later, he said he was busy and I should have found my own way and made him dinner. he said many other hurtfuls things and it became clear to me that i would lead an awful life with him. i called the man i love to help me. i didnt plan this and i just want to be with him. he didnt even know i was getting married. i couldnt stop talking to him even though my mom beat me to end it. im sorry, i just couldnt go through with it. i saved my virginity for the man i love.

people will the least to offer have the most to say.

Really? Did you just say that the law is not practiced in reality? And which reality is it that you reside in? Because where I come from, in this particular reality, we have a judicial system, and law is practiced daily, including all government branches, including but not limited to the Department of Home Land Security. That being said, the above statements which you have made present themselves in such a manner that one can only percieve this entie situation, (I understand you state it is a hypothetical situation) to be a seemingly fraudulent one.

The basic point here is:

1. You presented factual information that was neither factual or true. You have provided us with only hypothetical type situations.

2. You need to look at the basic facts, do you really believe and understand she, your girlfriend, is telling you surrounding the whole situation as I find it a bit odd and unbelievable that the OP would go through all trouble to bring here here, especially considering the controls around the Filipino government, only to leave her high and dry at the airport.

3. I am glad you understand and that you agree with and find value in the information provided by Mari on post # 73

4. You continue to rebute other members on this site, however the information you provide and the statements you make are simply ludicrous. Again, I will reference your last post, "reading the law is not an example. nor is the law practiced in reality."

Clearly stated, we have been round and round with you concerning your initial request for information to which you have rudly and with conflicting statements attacked other member of the VJ community. It would be appreciated at this point if you would take the time to consider whether your sitation is real or not and truly take into consideration whether the information your "girlfriend" has provided you make sense. That being said, it does not seem necessary to me for you to continue with this post because any information provided to you is being utilized by you only for the puposes of attacking other members and quite frankly driving us crazy!

Good luck in your reality bubble wherever that may be, I hope sometime soon you can take the information provided in this form to heart and realize that people that were simply only trying to help you and answer your questions. No one here deserved the unfair treatment you have served upon them.

too bad there are no iq tests to get a visa...

So this woman, who was carrying on with a relationship with another man, while she's planning to marry another, you want this woman? Good luck with that; maybe you'll be left on the curb like the last man.

that is not what happened; it's all there in the words...

If you want other examples...

The Philippines is considered a high fraud consulate. It is extremely unusual for a person to petition someone, go through all the procedure, buy them a ticket and not show up at the airport to meet them. If she did a runner on him, ditched him at the airport and called you instead...would you want to know that?

you are still confused about what 'example' means, tsk, tsk.

Like? read the law, There is no restriction on how many people can apply for a K-1 for her. Someone applied for her, she arrived and did not marry him and she went (or will go) back. Where is the problem? she meets someone lese while she is here. That person files for her. And what? Yes, I worked with one exact (sort of) same situation from Ukraine. The Ukrainian woman arrived and met the man that petitioned her, after a few weeks she decided not to marry him and left him. Before she went back she met and MARRIED another man. She returned to Ukraine and he filed for a CR-1 which was granted and she is now here.

The only difference is the airport pick up. Were it me I would want to talk to the original petitioner and ask him why he did all that and then did not pick her up at the airport. Strange.

reading the law is not an example. nor is the 'law' practiced in reality. thank you for the actual example, though. i have decided that we will not marry while she is, even if the relationship progresses.

Yeah, why not? I don't see anything to worry about here. There are lots of examples

like?

I’m going to call you out so you understand why so many good, honest and genuine VJ members could not answer you directly. Also, so you own your own behavior and part in this with mature accountability. Since reading your post and replies, it leaves me with a heavy heart to see the veil over your eyes and for this I'm very sorry.

Many like as Jim, Vanessa, Maria, T-Bone, Amy & Nick, gave much effort to answer you in regards to meeting the K1 requirements and the time suggestions so as to develop your relationship. From what I read (and where it gets sticky), members attempted to answer you and requested detailed information. Some raised a plethora of questions about the information you listed in post#1. Several said inquiry and scrutiny would be raised not only by this community but from the CO to the nth degree! That was not pointed solely at you, but anyone who is requesting a Visa.

I feel it has been unwarranted to use admonishment and chastise in a poised manner towards posters accusing us for not paying attention to your subtle-allusions (post#70), your subtexts (post#57), and unwillingness to provide detailed information (post #18).

You know what? We were.

At first, I could not fathom why anyone would become so defensive when we asked for more details, until you told me (post#55) that it should be obvious that you are “speaking in the hypothetical.”

This whole time the original post was hypothetical and yet you never stated that DIRECTLY to US. You assumed we would 'just know'. The thread carried on alluding to the fact that your situation was indeed reality; therefore, we were left to believe you and the statements you published. How could we answer anything directly and to your satisfaction if you made up the rules as we went along? And by YOUR judgment over us, we were verbally punished to make up for our lack of understanding, inequities, or as you put it, ill-informed misinterpretation.

How unfair and really, I see it as badgering the greater VJ community members who were truthfully and sincerely trying to help you. Yet as many said, it doesn’t fail the constant process that continues to come to mind: Is this relationship entirely hypothetical and a sham of premeditated fraud for a Visa? Sorry, not judgment but most likely the same question the CO will ask by deduction of information you’re providing. (Hypothetical or not)

Lastly, I asked you if you were also superlloyd because I thought somebody could edit our posts besides us. Since your OP name is Visawandering and I kept seeing superlloyd editing beneath your replies, even that was bit confusing. That was not meant as an insult but an attempt to gain understanding of VJ navigation. I looked up the profile out of curiosity. I found these:

• superlloyd, Posted 25 February 2010 - 09:10 PM

My ex-wife has a restraining order on me from 10 years ago when I plead guilty to a charge of aggravated assault. Will I still have a chance of bringing my fiancee over on a K-1 from the Philippines? Is this the same girl as you hypothetically speak of who is with you now?

• superlloyd, on 06 January 2011 - 03:49 PM, said:

does anyone have any knowledge of a person here on a K-1 visa that married someone other than the petitioner, applied for a CR-1 with the new spouse and went back to their country within the 90 day period successfully obtaining the CR-1? <BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break">

A very well respected VJ member answered that for you. I hope you got what you needed. But as Maria says above, reminds me of what scammers would do. To my knowledge, Visa Fraud is a Federal Offense and in my humble opinion a mockery of the Country we love and live in.

Now, you say we do not pay attention and I would go so far to say that few more looked at those postings too. But from that series of questions you posted last year and the other day, and the lack of information you give in this thread, accusing us consistently while trying to answer you, both of those in addition to this thread appear as calculating to me. Now is it that difficult for you to grasp why so many were confused and needed clarification?

I don’t take to well to abuse, verbal or other, and I will defend those whom you reprimanded because this VJ media is invaluable to so many. While you and your friend hypothetically visit one another, the rest of us live in reality and are very serious about our Visa Journeys. We are in love with our beneficiary or petitioner. We are authentic people involved in legitimate, committed relationships. The support and friendships made around the world should be respected and an example to you of the innocent people you freely and sharply rebuke! We were being honest to help answer your post, hypothetical or not. We respect(ed) you even if you did not respect the rest of us. Understand?

Maybe you should pay attention… to your behavior. Please note* THAT was the only thing direct and obvious.

Mari

PS: I forgot to mention, several of us have very forgiving hearts. Now why don’t you really come join a very supportive community with pleasant attitude so that maybe you can be with your beloved… legally?

hypothetical as in a possible eventuality; not a fictional situation. just...hilarious.

I just started thinking why would the petitioner buy her a plane ticket to come here and then not show up at the airport to pick her up? Just thinking out loud. I have filed 2 previous petitions for the Philippines I too have a bad record. Where as you have a clean record. From my experience a second chance is nothing but a hassle. I actually filed and withdrew 2 fiance petitions for the 2 girls in the Philippines. It's a long story, after those 2 bad experiences. Didn't seem bad cuz I withdrew them. I decided to forget the Philippines and start fresh. I decided to look into China figuring the USCIS would see I am on a totally different country. Not filing a fiancee visa, but a spousal visa. Anyway it's expensive it's a hassle and a big delay. I am being scrutinized to the nth degree. I did nothing wrong. The first girl didn't want to come here failed the interview and told them I was committing visa fraud. I got a letter 2 years later stating that in 1-2010. I filed for my spousal Visa in 2-13-10. I got married and had a wedding in China back 11-09. The USCIS took 7 &1/2 months to approve me. My attorney was supposed to file the papers in 11-15. I called the NVC they didn't receive them yet. He had to resend them. I don't know what happened.

Whew you get one chance with the USCIS they are a tough bunch. I got interrogated in 12-10 by the Customs and border patrol & or immigrations and customs enforcement. That was my 3rd trip coming back from China for the sole purpose of visiting my wife. what a hassle. I was told I would probably be put on advance parole too. Anyhow your clean she's not. It makes it harder for you. The money you will spend on a lawyer you could buy a ticker to meet someone else file a fiance visa and have her here in 6 months. Your definetly in for a not so simple case to say the least. I am talking from experience. I have searched and read a few other similar stories here like yours. I am not saying to forget her. The CO will smell something is not right just because they can. My wife has nothing to do with the Philippines yet she's the one being punished. I made some bad decisions. I was not informed of how the whole process worked. I finally find my SO and now I have to go through hell to get her here. We will persevere. On top of all that I ended up with a lame #### lawyer. When we had the chance to get through the NVC he dropped the ball. If you did it yourself with someone else you wouldn't even need a lawyer. That's going to cost you at least $2k or more. When it's all said and done.

One attorney suggested that we 'reset' the beginning of our relationship to several months after she gets back. Have her send a letter to the consulate explaining why she did not go through with the marriage. Then visit her next January and apply for the K-1 when I return.

thank you for addressing my questions directly vaphuong. I am looking for reassurance in the form of a real world example, as I have said. I didn't come here for advice, I came for applicable experience. Why people who have nothing to offer say anything is beyond me. If I were to do this, I would probably want at least one case occurring that was similar before I am comfortable proceeding. Your answer does reaffirm what I thought to be true, because it is the case. Thanks again.

Hello, I am very confused. I have read through this entire post and I thought the OP said in post #18 the following:

"From your replies, it is clear that many of you have not even read what I wrote. Our relationship was not that serious. It is only beginning to become serious. I have not decided to marry her. She has been here 60 days. She will leave before her 90 days is up. Your opinions on the situation unrelated to my questions are not helpful and ill-informed. I have not and will not go into detail about things that support what I have told you. I presented the situation as it is to seek advice on the visa, etc. Questioning the situation is not productive and very insulting."

Forgive me OP, and do not snap back and 'scold me' lol, but in this current post you are asking the VJ family "How long should I wait to file the K-1?"

You tell the VJ family "we should pay attention" but from your own words, not ours, it appears that you already have made up your mind despite your comment earlier. Are you [the OP] paying attention to what you are saying? This is what really matters here. Thus, we are not your future, you and your girlfriend, or girlfriend to be, are the important principals in the matter. You said you spoke to several immigration attorneys. Did they not give you sound advise with their experience in the field?

I am wondering aside from the answer that Jim gave earlier regarding your qualifying for required conditions for a K-1 Petition, what else is it that you want? No matter who you decide to marry, or not marry, I have to believe that the VJ family would only want the best outcome for you both. That being said...

Several have stated their opinion of developing your relationship over time and waiting to file. You already stated that you have quite a portfolio of evidence from a friendship, or "...relationship that was not that serious", to its current status. You said that she will return before the 90 days expiration date, and you cannot visit her until Jan 2012 (?). As you are a student, intellectually I am guessing you understand this will give you more time to develop your friendship to a more serious relationship, if that has not already happened; but I'd be questioning what about the relationship with the first K-1 Fiance? Who knows, you might just come into a windfall of $$$ before then.

The CO or USCIS believed she was in love with the first K-1 Petitioner and there has to be a signifcant amount of evidence in that file. Despite hurt feelings, even if he did not pick her up at airport, and cannot be found today (Are you sure?), none the less, how does anyone close and shut off supposedly strong emotional ties that quickly when they're about to make a very serious life commitment?

Just as you feel we are unclear, I think the presentation is also unclear.

I wish you both the best and good luck.

Mari

I can't be much more clearer than stating that my decision is not made yet. It should be obvious from me stating this that I am speaking in the hypothetical. All of this would be contigent upon the relationship continuing to develop and us being in the right mindset. If we were to go through with it and someone here presents factual information as to how long we should wait, etc., then I would follow that advise. You say that I am unclear, yet you present a perfect example of the problem when you state "(Are you sure?)". Some people make their own interpretations and conclusions. What I said is what id; no more, no less. Taking it at anything less than face value will lead to misunderstanding. If you don't believe what I say or understand written language well enough to catch subtext, then your contribution is very short of just that.

I very much like to plan ahead. I cannot visit here until then not because of financials, but because of my research contract.

I am sorry to hear this but, everyone is sharing their ideas based on experience and voicing out their opinion. I believe that most of the advices that were being offered can actually be very very helpful to you. Let me remind you the reason for VISAJOURNEY'S b] existence- is for all of us to be helping each other. Like your fiance, I did not have a very happy experience with my previous petitioner as well, but the visajourney family was very helpful. Me and my current fiance didnt have to consult an immigration lawyer about our case anymore because we found all the answers here at Visajourney. I made a lot of friends on here who are sincere and always willing to help. The forums, topics and posts were very informative and useful.

So take time to do some research about what you should do with regards to your situation. I guess it is not best anymore for you to ask people for their ideas or opinion because none of them would really matter to you anyway.

Good luck on your journey and God bless!

So, you had to apply for a second K-1 visa? Can you tell me more about your experience, please. I have been waiting for someone with first-hand knowledge of something similar.

this forum has been a huge dissappointment. very few people made any effort to actually answer questions i asked. i received judgements, misinformation, questions, assumptions and answers to things i did not ask. it is shameful and disheartening.

:thumbs: ...for sure he will..I've read about his past topic regarding his question if he would be qualified for filing a fiance visa even if his ex-wife has a restraining order on him from 10 years ago when he pleaded guilty to a charge of aggravated assault...I hope he was able to find answer for that problem...so far, it really makes me wonder about the whole scenario..I would agree to James & Cynthia's post..It's sad to know that she used the other guy and you knowing that one and still wanna pursue her, is gonna be another "sad story" in the making...we are sad to hear stories like those & people here in VJ just don't want you to be another victim or another OP of a new "sad story"...God bless!!

as is evidenced through my subtle allusions to the 'arrangement' of the K-1 visa petitioner with a member her family, he is not a man in love. and, as i have said, none of this was planned. these are the parts where you should pay more attention...

Sorry to say, but sounds like fraud to me on both your parts. Maybe that's why you feel the need to be so defensive. If you apply for K-1 too soon, you're throwing your money out for a sure denial. As many have said, waiting is most likely your only choice. You should have done it right the first time instead of using someone else so you could meet.

Listen to what people have told you:

1. Fiance didn't pick her up at airport

Never heard that story before.

2. Can't contact fiance

What about address, skype, email, yahoo?

3. Your evidence of relationship is while she was engaged and using another for a K-1.

4. You either lie about her intensions to marry the first guy, or admit fraud with her real intensions. Either way, it's fraud. (catch-22)

Even if you can't admit your part in this, do you really want to be with someone that could use another like that, or be pressured by her family so much? That makes this even more unbelievable.

-James

you should pay more attention.

but those times that you were talking online, sent letters,text and gifts back & forth were the same time that she was having " a supposedly relationship" with the other guy who petitioned her first thats why she got a visa and for sure the CO will be suspicious about this so you have to be very careful in presenting your evidence.

I agree. How do you suggest we go about presenting it?

The K-1 petition will be approved by USCIS if you are both free to marry and if you have met in person within the last two years. The visa application will undergo exceptional scrutiny at the embassy, with the high risk that it will be shot down.

To avoid throwing good effort after bad, spend several years building your financial status and accumulating evidence of bona fide relationship OVER TIME before filing the K-1. It's not merely whether you can get a cosponsor for the affidavit of support; married life is expensive, and children are even more so. Furthermore, I understand that the Manila embassy rarely accepts cosponsors for K-1 petitions.

Act in haste, repent at leisure.

I have a ten year old son and an ex-wife.

I am fine financially.

I have evidence for nearly two and half years.

The Manila embassy cannot reject it based upon a co-sponsor.

A lawyer is preparing a letter addressed to the embassy explaining the circumstances of her first K-1 and why it did not work out. She will submit this upon her return to the Philippines.

The nature of our online friendship that lead to her seeking my help in her time of crisis will be explained in our K-1 application. We are not going to hide that were chatmates during the time that this other gentleman was courting her. She in no way is trying to commit any sort of fraud. If she was, she would not be returning.

Hi, I am a k1 filer from Manila, who just got recently approved. I agree with the part about it being hard since you are a student. I am 23 and my fiance is 22, we met on a school-exchange program, and he filed a k1 for me. He graduated from military school May 2010 and he started working afterwards in the National Guard and as a security guard as well. Because he just started working, we had no tax returns or anything, but we had his dad co-sponsor for us. He came to my interview, and it was just a few weeks ago. Almost got denied because he had a small salary ( just above the requirement) and we were told by the CO that they do not consider co-sponsor for k1... the only reason we were approved is because I showed my work experience in Manila and China as a speech therapist and showed my diploma for them to see that I do not intend for my fiance to support me since I will work once I get my GC. So it might be hard on your part, a co-sponsor will not be enough..

that is incorrect. you may have a co-sponsor for your affidavit of support.

Sorry if my response is wrong but i did not mean to insult you. I read your post well and if you think what we say here is disrespectful, i think you have to ask a legal advice since it is serious situation. You can not just ask to people who even how many members here who is expert about it?. Good luck.

I have met with 6 immigration attorneys. I asked members for their experience because perhaps they have firt-hand knowledge of a similar situation.

Several years, after establishing yourself financially and accumulating copious, unimpeachable proof of a bona fide relationship.

I own my home and a rental property. My student loans are more than enough to live off of and I have a co-sponsor. I already have more than enough evidence of a relationship as we had talked online, sent letters, texts, emails and gifts back and forth for years and we have been in each other's company for nearly two months.

Sorry to perceive that you're becoming defensive. In reading your original post (three times, and very carefully), I truthfully believe that the replies have been respectful and have chiefly focused on exactly what you asked. Those by Jim and Vanessa (two highly respected, very sensible VJ members) are especially worth your consideration.

The Philippines is a third-world country, and the consular officers there are exceptionally attuned to anything that smacks of fraud -- or, if that term is too strong, call it "monkeyshines." Having been through what I myself have been through, and having consulted at least a dozen family-immigration lawyers about real and hypothetical situations, I can offer to you the objective advice that it will probably take a few years and certainly require copious, unimpeachable "evidence of bona fide relationship" before you would have a chance that your approved K-1 petition would pass muster at the consular stage. There are simply too many red flags at this stage -- not necessarily of her doing, and certainly not of yours. Objectively also, your financial status as a student would prove to be another hurdle; the Manila embassy is known to focus heavily on the ability to prove financial support in K-1 cases.

I think that everyone here is looking at that big picture, more than questioning anyone's motives. I join them in respecting the objective pickle that you're in.

I said most, not all.

Anything I haven't mentioned I have considered and accounted for. For example, the AOS, I would have a co-sponsor, of course.

I will retain an immigration lawyer and have copious amounts of evidence.

When you say it could take years...do you mean I should wait that long or they will hold the process up? What could they do to delay the process? Is that all it would be, a delay? Meaning, am I likely to get the K-1 approved after I jump many hurdles and endure scrutiny?

RIGHT! The beneficiary should only marry the petitioner within 90 days after her entry to U.S., if not, then she should have to go back to her country, and then you can apply for a K1 for her.. there should be no problem.. there might be additional scrutiny upon her interview, but all she has to do is answer all interview questions truthfully.

How long should I wait to file the K-1?

If she takes serious about her relationship with him, why she didn't find out about his reason to not pick her up in airport?. His home address or whatever it is must be there on her K1 application. Or she didnt know or didnt bring his? His family? His friend? There must be a way to find out what happend to him that made him didn't pick her up in airport. Let them finish their problem first so you can see about her commitment about a relationship.

I dont know the real situation but i think his fiance must spent a lot of time, money, and energy to get her here. Both of you have to appreciate and consider about his sacrifice. Three of you have to sit together. A good relationship can not be build on wrong way.

From your replies, it is clear that many of you have not even read what I wrote. Our relationship was not that serious. It is only beginning to become serious. I have not decided to marry her. She has been here 60 days. She will leave before her 90 days is up. Your opinions on the situation unrelated to my questions are not helpful and ill-informed. I have not and will not go into detail about things that support what I have told you. I presented the situation as it is to seek advice on the visa, etc. Questioning the situation is not productive and very insulting.

Good to hear that you got his confirmation. It's very difficult to "judge" when, like you say, I don't know the entire situation. My two previous points were only made because I can assure you, that's what a lot of people will be thinking, including the CO for any future visas. Since it doesn't seem advisable for you and her to get married while she's in the U.S., what's the possibility of visiting her in the Philippines? I know for most it can be very cost prohibitive.

You have my sincere best wishes.

George

I would be unable to visit until next January.

seems like she just used the other guy to get here and meet you.

that is, unless you read what i wrote...

Wow!

If you haven't done so already, you and her need to sit down and have a long heart-to-heart discussion about what you both want for the future. A number of scenarios come to mind when I read your little story.

1) Are you sure that the guy didn't try to pick her up at the airport and that she couldn't contact him. It occurs to me that she may have just used him so that she could get to where you are. Possible?

2) Let's say it's true and he didn't show and wasn't available by phone. She "kicked you tot he curb" so that she could marry this other guy for financial stability. Who's to say that she wont do this again?

With that said, I'm an optimist (for right now) and sincerely hope you two actually have a connection going on. I would be very concerned about how USCIS/Consulate/etc. will look at you relationship and her previous K-1.

This is my personal opinion of what I would probably do only. I'd probably get married and go the IR1/CR1 route for the visa. Get a couple of visits to the Philippines under you belt prior to applying and be sure that I accumulate tons of evidence to prove a valid married relationship. Of course, real life finances,etc. often get in the way of being able to do things exactly the way we would like to.

Good luck.

George

I am sure that is what he has done. Although I do not wish to get into the messy details, he admitted this. She did not "kick me to the curb", we were not at the point in our relationship. She wished to continue our relationship but she was under tremendous familial pressure to marry him. She was willing to refuse her family and wait for me. I gave my blessing for her to marry him.

I have talked to several lawyers who said that getting married while she is here on another's K-1 will cause an immediate fraud investigation when we file a CR-1.

I know that getting a second K-1 is not too difficult. I am more concerned with explaining our relationship and nature of meeting to their satisfaction, as well as whether or not I should allow a specific amount of time to pass before we file for the second K-1.

I have been talking to a filipina online for several years. Getting together/eventual marriage was only discussed as a possibility. She decided to marry another man and told me of this. I accepted the situation although her marriage was primarily for stability. I am student, he makes a very good living. Also, I have yet to get the money to see her in person as well. Although she had many reservations about the marriage, she came here to follow through with it. He did not show up to the airport when she arrived and was unavailable by phone. She called the only other person she knew in the country and I flew out to pick her up. She has been staying with me and decided not to marry the other guy. We have started dating. As long as things continue to go well, I believe we would like to get married. She will be leaving before her 90 days is up on her K-1 visa. My quesiton is about the possibility of myself applying for a second K-1 visa for her once she returns. Is this possible? Are there any actual examples of this being successful? Is there an issue with her deciding so quickly that he was not the right man for her, even though his behavior may have justified it. I feel like our meeting in person while she is on another person's K-1 will be a problem. Should I wait a specific amount of time to file the K-1 or will I be successful filing it immediately? Her first K-1 was filed in June of 2010. Should we reveal our prior relationship in our application or claim we met for the first time while she was here? I realize I have asked a lot of questions. Thank you in advance for your help.