boghy

MY PEOPLE!!

Called the NVC just now:

"Your case has been forwarded to the Embassy"

I don't know whether to laugh or cry!!

Congratulation!!!!!!!!!

...now for the rest of us in AP.

The trick:

When you call NVC, and go above the "human robots", giving you the same answer, try to talk with an supervisor. When you speak with that supervisor be NICE!!!!!!! then IF and only IF you get an answer like " call us back in next week Tuesday for more information in your case (as i got today)" then you should know in that second that your case will be forwarded to the consular section in that day, and you'll be out from AP. By the NVC Internal Policy (this is just a theory that make sense to me), they can't tell you a time frame or that the case WILL (notice future term???) be forwarded to your embassy ONLY IF it's the present term or past. See what I see?? Present-Past Info = they tell youl; FUTURE = NOT tell you nothing specific?? BUT the supervisor can tell you that we WILL give you more information AT THAT TIME IF in they system shows when you will be out from AP.

So now, knowing that.. here is the "CRACK" for it.

MAKE SURE THAT YOU ASK THE NVC SUPERVISOR, THEN WHEN HE/SHE/THEY CAN GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR CASE!

If you get an answer: We can't tell you while is in AP .. well ques what IT"S TRUE!

If you get an answer: Call us back on X day for more info about your case .. Oh boy... U R a WINNER.

I hope you out there in AP will found this useful.

HUH... Tuesday i'm out from AP (i'm 99.99% sure) <<-- Like the weather prediction Got the clue - got the weather channel.

yepeey..i just called nvc now..and i was out of ap and it will send it today to manila consulate... :dance:

At 3PM EST you should be able to start tracking your package. Don't forget to look at the weight to get a better clue on which is it, if are more then one sent for the same consular location.

Oh, and today is day 39 for me. I have decided I am only going to call on Wednesday and Friday evenings. I can't take the hearing the same depressing news EVERY day from the zombies at NVC. And it also seems that congressional inquiries mean NOTHING to them.

or... do what i do, check DHL from 3PM EST, and if you see anything there that goes to your location, call NVC to see if its yours.

Remember A, B, and even C.

Crazymazy's package was with B, so try your luck there if you don't want them to answer you as zombies ...

A B C I know about CORRESPONDENSE AND THE EXP2009A Is there a 3rd DHL tracking link????

Im trying to track a at least 15 pounder to Paris, and Im not kidding.

The best way to understand this is by giving an example.

Lets take today's date 10/01/2009.

You want to track what's shipped today through DHL.

For that you do this:

1 Go on DHL website ONLY AFTER 3PM EST: http://track.dhl-usa.com/TrackByRef.asp?nav=TrackByRef

2 Track by reference keywords as follow: "correspondence" OR "EXP 30 SEP 2009A" OR "EXP 30 SEP 2009B" or "EXP 30 SEP 2009C" <<<--- Notice A, B, and C? Very important!

3 Select today's date 10/01/2009

4 Origin Postal Code: 03801

Please NOTE!!!: For EACH keyword from steep 1 it WILL return a different query result.

Happy tracking!

Oh, and today is day 39 for me. I have decided I am only going to call on Wednesday and Friday evenings. I can't take the hearing the same depressing news EVERY day from the zombies at NVC. And it also seems that congressional inquiries mean NOTHING to them.

or... do what i do, check DHL from 3PM EST, and if you see anything there that goes to your location, call NVC to see if its yours.

Remember A, B, and even C.

Crazymazy's package was with B, so try your luck there if you don't want them to answer you as zombies ...

Another day, another call to NVC, another answers still in AP and another reason to call them tomorrow. Crazymazy i was hoping to get same answers as you since i'm one day after you, but still nothing. I will call them tonight, since i notice that they sent packages in bathes twice a day, in the morning between 7AM-8AM and afternoon from 3PM to 4 PM.

OH maybe this is the a,b,c ????

I'm not sure, but looking at yours it got shipped in the morning, and was a B. I was thinking on that, but it throw off the morning hours thinking that should be A instead. I really don't know yet.

when i called in the morning - they said was still in ap

when i called that evening - they said had shipped that day

same day - 2 calls

I've checked all known possible query options for DHL, and nothing for romania, today They just update the shipping list.

was yesterday you already found mine unless you are looking for yours ??

@ ladonna - see this is what they told me too - so maybe you will be soon also !

In the same day at 3PM EST the DHL is displaying already the information of the packages that are sent in that day ("Shipment data received.").

boghy - did u call dept of state ?

No, but i did sent an email to my congressman a minute ago.

Another day, another call to NVC, another answers still in AP and another reason to call them tomorrow. Crazymazy i was hoping to get same answers as you since i'm one day after you, but still nothing. I will call them tonight, since i notice that they sent packages in bathes twice a day, in the morning between 7AM-8AM and afternoon from 3PM to 4 PM.

OH maybe this is the a,b,c ????

I'm not sure, but looking at yours it got shipped in the morning, and was a B. I was thinking on that, but it throw off the morning hours thinking that should be A instead. I really don't know yet.

when i called in the morning - they said was still in ap

when i called that evening - they said had shipped that day

same day - 2 calls

I've checked all known possible query options for DHL, and nothing for romania, today They just update the shipping list.

Another day, another call to NVC, another answers still in AP and another reason to call them tomorrow. Crazymazy i was hoping to get same answers as you since i'm one day after you, but still nothing. I will call them tonight, since i notice that they sent packages in bathes twice a day, in the morning between 7AM-8AM and afternoon from 3PM to 4 PM.

OH maybe this is the a,b,c ????

I'm not sure, but looking at yours it got shipped in the morning, and was a B. I was thinking on that, but it throw off the morning hours thinking that should be A instead. I really don't know yet.

Another day, another call to NVC, another answers still in AP and another reason to call them tomorrow. Crazymazy i was hoping to get same answers as you since i'm one day after you, but still nothing. I will call them tonight, since i notice that they sent packages in bathes twice a day, in the morning between 7AM-8AM and afternoon from 3PM to 4 PM.

hmmmmmm I just checked the DHL shipments and see one that was picked up yesterday at 4PM heading for Panama City , Panama. I have heard that they often don't update their database until the file is already on it's way. I have been checking the DHL shipments out of NVC for two weeks now and this is the first I have seen to Panama. Not getting my hopes up too much, but I will call later this morning and see.

How do you guys check these shipments? Is there a link to find out?

go to DHL website, tracking by reference, and put in "EXP SEP 30 2009A" but you play with the date a little, then just scroll and look for your consulate ... but don't be fooled like I was and assume if there is one going to your consulate it must be yours.

As i found out today, can be "EXP SEP 30 2009A" or "EXP SEP 30 2009B" shocking even "EXP SEP 30 2009C"

My suggestion query them all and get a better clue based on the weight of your package and country plus city of your belonging consular section.

EXAMPLE:

1 - you already know that your case has around 3lbs in papers from what you sent

2 - you already know that you belong to let's say London UK

3 - you already got the confirmation from NVC that your case has been shipped today or yesterday

P.S. you shouldn't even bother tracking packages older then 3 working days since usually are already arrived to they destination which is your consular section of your beneficiary... unless they didn't got the package yet an NVC claims that has been shipped already.

so - maybe A = approved ?

b = backlog ?

c = ?????

and correspondence = just junk paperwork

OR

B = Background check different level?

wowowowowowowowo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just called - our application was shipped TODAY !!! We are out of the nightmare

...then people, i think we may just figure out here something!

What?

Answer:

Do you guy's remember this link? http://track.dhl-usa.com/TrackRslts.asp?nav=TrackRslt ..the please where we track the average shipping?

ok ok i get to the point.

crazymazy said they AP is over (Congrats by the way... URAAA!! <--Romanian way! ) ; i went on DHL type in CORRESPONDENCE then i see NOTHING shipped today to Bucharest based on that query. I think we can't track K1 visas on that link based on CORRESPONDENCE or EXP 28 SEP 2009A query. Do i miss something here?

Wow mazy! That's wonderful news for you! Maybe that fax worked, or maybe it was just your time to go. Who can know it? Anyway, I'm happy for you and don't forget us. Ciao cara.

Crazymazy, i think i found your package. Is the only one shipped yesterday to Bucharest, Romania. Tracking #8784***094 , query by "EXP 28 SEP 2009B" notice the B instead of A? Very important! "EXP 28 SEP 2009A" has an different query return.

Ciao Boghy! What is the signifcance of the B? I never knew about that.

I don't know exactly what B means but, thanks to Crazymazy i knew that can't be "CORRESPONDENCE" or "EXP 28 SEP 2009A" because there was no package sent on 09/29/2009 to Bucharest Romania. So i tried to push my luck with different logical thinking. Every character in "EXP 28 SEP 2009A" means something, which personally i don't know what are, but usually has to be an sequence. So if there was an order A i went with B knowing the info from Crazymazy. I other words i just guessed.

Oh by the way Crazymazy i didn't got the idea of putting in the comment 09/30/09 out from AP since yesterday was 09/29/09. Is that a mistake? I'm confused with that date. ...because if it's truly shipped out on 09/30/09 then all what I wrote about B and your package through the DHL is wrong. Please let us know.

Well shipped out yesterday 09/29/09

so would of had to call for pick up 09/28/09 - so u were correct and no - was before coffee this morning at 2 am

Ok then, let's expand a little the logical thinking. IF we get more people finding they package being in AP close to 30 days with B then i'm thinking the following order:

1 - 10 days = CORRESPONDENCE (no AP)

11 - 20 days = EXP 28 SEP 2009A <-- notice A?

21 - 30 or more days? = EXP 28 SEP 2009B <-- notice B?

All that above is just an unconfirmed theory, so we need more people to confirm this.

wowowowowowowowo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just called - our application was shipped TODAY !!! We are out of the nightmare

...then people, i think we may just figure out here something!

What?

Answer:

Do you guy's remember this link? http://track.dhl-usa.com/TrackRslts.asp?nav=TrackRslt ..the please where we track the average shipping?

ok ok i get to the point.

crazymazy said they AP is over (Congrats by the way... URAAA!! <--Romanian way! ) ; i went on DHL type in CORRESPONDENCE then i see NOTHING shipped today to Bucharest based on that query. I think we can't track K1 visas on that link based on CORRESPONDENCE or EXP 28 SEP 2009A query. Do i miss something here?

Wow mazy! That's wonderful news for you! Maybe that fax worked, or maybe it was just your time to go. Who can know it? Anyway, I'm happy for you and don't forget us. Ciao cara.

Crazymazy, i think i found your package. Is the only one shipped yesterday to Bucharest, Romania. Tracking #8784***094 , query by "EXP 28 SEP 2009B" notice the B instead of A? Very important! "EXP 28 SEP 2009A" has an different query return.

Ciao Boghy! What is the signifcance of the B? I never knew about that.

I don't know exactly what B means but, thanks to Crazymazy i knew that can't be "CORRESPONDENCE" or "EXP 28 SEP 2009A" because there was no package sent on 09/29/2009 to Bucharest Romania. So i tried to push my luck with different logical thinking. Every character in "EXP 28 SEP 2009A" means something, which personally i don't know what are, but usually has to be an sequence. So if there was an order A i went with B knowing the info from Crazymazy. I other words i just guessed.

Oh by the way Crazymazy i didn't got the idea of putting in the comment 09/30/09 out from AP since yesterday was 09/29/09. Is that a mistake? I'm confused with that date. ...because if it's truly shipped out on 09/30/09 then all what I wrote about B and your package through the DHL is wrong. Please let us know.

Crazymazy, i think i found your package. Is the only one shipped yesterday to Bucharest, Romania. Tracking #8784***094 , query by "EXP 28 SEP 2009B" notice the B instead of A? Very important! "EXP 28 SEP 2009A" has an different query return.

wowowowowowowowo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just called - our application was shipped TODAY !!! We are out of the nightmare

...then people, i think we may just figure out here something!

What?

Answer:

Do you guy's remember this link? http://track.dhl-usa.com/TrackRslts.asp?nav=TrackRslt ..the please where we track the average shipping?

ok ok i get to the point.

crazymazy said they AP is over (Congrats by the way... URAAA!! <--Romanian way! ) ; i went on DHL type in CORRESPONDENCE then i see NOTHING shipped today to Bucharest based on that query. I think we can't track K1 visas on that link based on CORRESPONDENCE or EXP 28 SEP 2009A query. Do i miss something here?

Focusing on how to speed up this government process can , as we all see around here, raise a lot of frustration and anger upon us. The way how i see it, it could be worse, like being stuck still with USCIS. I don't say that we should not have any worries, but still guy's behave yourselves, we are after-all in love.

Other then that, oh well same story, called today NVC, still AP.(another reason to call them tomorrow).

Neither for me - where is your dual with ?

Romanian and US citizen.

Changing the subject..

The funny part about the US Embassy in Bucharest is the costumer service on the Consular Section. For those who had/will have the chance to get in touch with them, be aware of being rushed on the phone by Romanian employees working for the Consular Section. I do credit them for they acknowledge, being able to speak both languages english/romanian, but be ready for the attitude over the phone.

I'll have to wake up at 4:00am EST to call the (since they like only to be called in the morning) to try to push the Packet 3 for K-1 in one way or another, due to NVC delay and based on the case number. I'm not hopping for much success, but i will let you know guy's how that went, tomorrow.

we emailed them - they are pretty friendly - they told us to down load the forms and mail them in and they would hold for us till our petition arrived - so would be already package 3 complete and they would just sent then the medical forms

so is at least a step ahead in the waiting process - we figure once out of ap - we will only have to wait 2-3 weeks ( if this long ) to have interview - maybe falsely - but if we leave the NVC center this week as the "within the 5 days" - we think we could still be finished by mid oct w visa possibly latest by end of oct

I've called them few minutes ago, and the told me that the Packet 3 forms will be mailed out only after they get from NVC our case. You mentioned that they sent you the forms. Can you give me the info of those forms?

Over the phone I asked the fallowing questions, which you may find them useful.

I asked them how long would take them to mail out the Packet 3 from the day that they get the case, and they told me that would be mailed our in the same day.

I asked them if there are any fees to pay. The lady on the phone said "yes $131 the visa processing fee, that can be paid on the day of the interview inside in the consular section".

I asked "How the interview appointment work? " She said having all the necessary documents requested through Packet 3 the beneficiary she/he will need to call in to schedule an appointment date, which she said shouldn't take more then few days (2-3 days) from the day of calling. I personally found this answer a very useful one .

I asked "What's the process of the medical exam?". She said if the fiance(e) comes from a different city far away from Bucharest then she/he will need to pay additional fee (small mailing fee) to the medical exam fee, for the sealed letter with the medical results to get to them. This is due to the fact that those results won't be done by 1pm(which is the starting time for interview of those with K-1 visa ). Additional to that i've asked "Will the visa be issued without those medical results ?" - as expected she said "No." therefore is a good idea to have them done ahead of time. A day before - she said.

Now back to bed ....

Neither for me - where is your dual with ?

Romanian and US citizen.

Changing the subject..

The funny part about the US Embassy in Bucharest is the costumer service on the Consular Section. For those who had/will have the chance to get in touch with them, be aware of being rushed on the phone by Romanian employees working for the Consular Section. I do credit them for they acknowledge, being able to speak both languages english/romanian, but be ready for the attitude over the phone.

I'll have to wake up at 4:00am EST to call the (since they like only to be called in the morning) to try to push the Packet 3 for K-1 in one way or another, due to NVC delay and based on the case number. I'm not hopping for much success, but i will let you know guy's how that went, tomorrow.

I'm wondering if this delay at NVC has anything to do with the fact that i'm having dual citizenship, or is truly just an random check, which i don't buy it either.

How many of you guys in AP has dual citizenship or working in an IT field?

Well today is actually day 36 , not day 42 as I thought. When I called NVC Friday night I confirmed the receive date and it is August 24th. I am trying to be positive and believe that THIS WEEK IS THE WEEK I COME OUT OF AP. I am going to try and test my patience and not call till Wednesday...maybe. I just get so angry now when I call just to hear the same thing. I think if Wednesday there is no change then I will call my Congresswomans office again. Good luck to everyoine this week. Maybe being end of the month they have to get a certain number finished...just hoping.

I just called still in AP, 20th day...I'm so tired..I don't even feel like calling NVC anymore.

Why do these things happen to people that follow rules and the law? When I hear "unfortunately there's no timeframe for AP" it just takes the energy out of me and I feel like going home...

Good luck to us this week.

I'm in the same boat with you. I've called today, they told me the same thing "Still in AP". They know my voice already. I've been calling them every working day since i got thrown in this AP. I'm up to 31 days now.. sad; but if that what takes to be with someone loved, then so be it.

Well we are still at NVC ... not sure if is AP or not ...last 2 operators since the "will be sent to embassy within the next 5 days " are saying still in AP and is no time frame - the spanish guy on friday admitted was this update and said had only been one day. But the operator this morning said no - so just asked to speak to a supervisor and surprisingly got one.

She was nice and she said same thing - but when I told her about update - she said yes - BUT they can not tell you anything supposedly UNTIL your application has actually left NVC ?? And this is why we get the non committal replies.

She did hint the update was "real" but since is still there ... she has to say the same thing ..

so am like so confused even more .. and am just going to go back up on my happy cloud and hang on to the "sometime within the next 5 days" update I received and play like this morning never happened :|

Well, let's hope that we wont catch the winter holidays with them. That would throw even more weight on our shoulders, not to mention our loved one that we petition for.

I encourage all those who have received the Form I-797 and/or a letter from NVC stating definitively that your petition has been approved and forwarded to the consulate, you should call NVC and complain frequently and vociferously about this situation. Not only is it misleading and disconcerting, it starts the expiration time for your visa processing, giving it a deadline which you may have to extend, adding even more to a burdensome and cumbersome process. This is inhuman treatment. What other entity might, with impunity, provide a person with false and misleading information? This is not a soviet state or a fascist regime. We are entitled to respect and accountability from those who represent us.

PLEASE READ THIS AND COMPLAIN TO NVC, DON'T BE AFRAID TO SPEAK UP, BECAUSE AS LONG AS WE ALLOW THEM TO PERPETUATE SUCH VILE PRACTICES, THEY WILL NOT CHANGE IT. SURELY IF ENOUGH PEOPLE COMPLAIN STRONGLY ENOUGH, THEY WILL STOP GIVING OUT SUCH MISLEADING INFORMATION.

And those of you who actually contact your congressional representatives, tell them about this situation. This should not be allowed to continue. At least half of us here are American citizens, and the other half are trying to become American citizens.

I agree, BUT... what's the percentage of cases in AP? 3-6%? If that, lets say that 50% of those people will open an official complain... still overall would be around 2-3% from all the cases processed through NVC. That usually wont matter to them. I'm open to any correction; if I'm wrong.

First of all, hi everyone!

I'm new to this forum, but i did a lot of readings before i post here.

I meant to call back last night but after mexican food and pina cola sort of fell asleep on couch when got in ...lol So will have to wait till monday. I check the DHL tracking and looks slim for friday and was nothing to romanian - so maybe will be more later as dhl is updated ? Even if there is I would not know if was or was not mine.

I don't know if i got this right but, is there a way to see when NVC sends out packages through DHL to an embassy? I may be wrong, but from what i was reading here people seams to have the way of seeing this somehow.

If there is a way, can someone give me the info on how to see it?