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Congrats on your approval
But update? You are not on the list...?I checked your VJ Timeline and it shows your NOA date is o1/04. If that date is the Receipt Date on your NOA letter, you are January filer?
Well I don't know how to do the "list". However, there is a difference between I-751 date, which is your filing date and noa is just that. We filed in december, just as the timeline reflects. I don't care if this list gets updated or added, I was just trying to be helpful showing people some more are getting approved.
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We received our approval date 09/20/2012. Please update
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Hi folks, just trying to get a pulse here. I've heard mixed messages. I have heard some say that you NEED to be at the consulate interview or others state not necessary. I just called the Ecuadorian consulate and they told me I do not need to be there. I will call again tomorrow to ensure I get the same answers.. And curious to others experience. Kindly share
Let me say you surely need to be there. First off, They CAN NOT keep you out of the consulate, it is your right as a citizen to go into a consulate when you feel the need. Second, the person you are "asking" when you call the consulate is not the person who grants visas and is lying if they told you not to be present. My fiance went for her interview and IMMEDIATELY when the interview started, the counselor officer said "where is your fiance?!" DENIED.come back for joint interview. I don't know the rules at all the consulates, but I can tell you for sure what they do in the South American Hell, some refer to as the Guayaquil Consulate.
You sound like you have your mind made up not to go. Do what you want. We have warned you. There are numerous other posts with the same denials for fiance not present. No, the consulate is not going to say, yes bring your fiance and we will surely approve this visa. They can and will simply deny the visa with a "no established proof of relationship to petitioner." But i can tell you that they are thinking, this is the most important day in someones life and you chose not to be there. The burden of proof lies with the applicant and petitioner, not the consulate.
Final thoughts are Why would you not want to be with your fiance on this day. Its an all day, long lines, stressful process and I had no idea what it was like until I stood in line like a heard of cows, holding evidence for hours in a freezing waiting room. It is a miserable experience and I don't wish it on my worst enemy.
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY CALLING THE CONSULATE! Buy you tickets and go support your person that you want to spend the rest of your life with.
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we recieved a letter on march 8rd stating that they refused our visa because they feel our marriage is not real & that its out of convenience for the beneficiary to obtain a visa to come to the US. Someone help me.. This is totally not true. Our marriage is very real and we are very much in love.. We gave them so much proof, if they had any doubts, why couldnt they just ask us for more info or evidence instead of denying us like that!!??? they returned all my hubbys paperwork to him thru dhl including his passport. we are so devastated. SOMEONE HELP!!!
Sorry to hear about your problems that we all have experienced in this consulate. You are going to have to wait a min. 6 months and let uscis reaffirm your petition and send it back to the consulate. now after it does arrive there you will have trouble getting them to give you a new appointment. you can get congress/senator help if you want, but i can tell you it will not help you one bit in this consulate. At this stage, lawyers cant help either. You just have to wait it out. Just keep track of your petition and no when it gets reviews back in the states. Sorry wish there was more you could do.
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Congressional, Senators, none of that helps with consulate level inquiries. Yes they will eventually answer with some general letter they have already typed. All they do is change the Congress persons name, and case number/names, and issue something with a half way apology and assured decision in the near future. its generic! Ronald Mcdonald has just a much pull with the consulates. Dont believe the hype of "congressional inquires" These consulates know its just some assistant case worker for the congressional office, and that if the congressman really wanted to push he himself would make a phone call and get results. Since the most of us are nobodys, thats not gonna happen.
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I batted my head on the DOS wall for too long, until I finally heeded the advice of an attorney who said that the CONSULATE is the place to contact for up-to-date answers.
Agreed. The DOS, USCIS, etc etc etc....are just looking at information in a screen accessible to "customer service reps" which are just call centers, that have no real access to your case. They can just see the same info you can get on computer, and phone updates.
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my case is in 221g AP, i am worrying if they return it to USCIS then what kind of documents USCIS ask to REAFFIRM the case???
your help will be appreciated
Thanks
USCIS will review the petition, issue a re-affirmed petion, or revoke the petition and send you a notice stating the time frame for rebuttal with option to submit "additional evidence" they dont normally ask for specifics.. You just have to front load everything you have and can find and send that to them, as you will have only one chance to convince them.
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Ours kept all the same case numbers.
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Without knowing every detail of the OP's situation, you CANNOT say what is or is not to be expected, and at a consulate different from the one where you interviewed. Please avoid telling people "not to worry" when two lives could be permanently wrecked if they believe you.
I second this opinion from experience that both must attend every interview regardless how many you have, and there are still no guarantees, but dont 2nd guess your self later saying what if. Be sure you do everything possible!
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Good luck Roy and Katy, glad to see you hanging in there!
thanks my friend! hopefull they will get tired of us, as we are never going away
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they are right.... we got noa2 in the mail....... when i call uscis...they say old news....they approved in june 12..2009 but they dont even show it...nvc....still says we haveNOT received your case.... what people dont realize, is these people working at "nvc" and "uscis" are just call centers with just a computer...they are not actual visa specialist or uscis immigration officers..all info they know is what the website tells them and nothing more...
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Ours was approved on june 12..still same story from nvc...wait wait wait
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Hi everyone
I am new but have found comfort here for many months as we waited for NOA2.
Now we wait again.
I am worried that our paperwork has gone missing on the way to NVC. We were approved on 26th June and still the NVC say they haven't received our case and it could take 90 days??
Is anyone else having this trouble?
Is there ANYTHING we can do to make sure our case isn't sitting back at California CSC?
Worst case scenario (and I truly hope not) but what happens if it has been lost
Sorry for all the questions.
Ours was approved in june 12, and i call everday and nvc still hasnt received..Ours is VSC , i think theres a slow down that is just random.
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It most likely won't take 90 days. I haven't read of any case that has taken that long. Most likely it will be 2-3 weeks. You haven't even gotten to the 2 week mark yet- don't panic. Unfortunately there isn't much you can do in terms of expediting it so long as it's still sitting at the service center, but perhaps you can find out from NVC how to move things along once it arrives, i.e. avoid possible AP and request a quick interview date if deployment is imminent.
ours was june 12 and still nothing...i think this is a very busy time of year with all the tourist etc
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It's been almost 4 weeks since we received our I-129F NOA2 dated May 30, 2009 (actually received the notice on June 6). I called the # for NVC tonight to see if they had received our case yet, and our case # is not on their records. From reading this topic it seems I have a little longer to wait before I freak out, but yeah...starting to get anxious regardless. Here I was thinking that the consulate would have the petition by now! Oh well.
Just wanted to share and wish everyone else who is still waiting good luck!
-Ash
our noa2 was dated june 12 and still no records at nvc....ours is a reaffirmation, so i dont know if it goes to nvc since it already has a case number. its seems vsc has slowed a lot...our last one only took like only a few days...
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Tough to reach NVC by phone, amigo, but I'd pester the dickens out of them. Piece of cake compared with the consulate, and you've suffered quite enough, si man.
actually they have been easy...every time i called i got an operator with like 2 mins... they just said its now taking about 2 to 4 weeks..they dont usually give time lines...but i ask her, as an opinion, not fact, about what is the time frame, and she politely told me..i hope by next week we know something so i can schedule this interview while im down there in late july... keep praying for us....
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this might also help
221(g):
The document issued by the Department of State under Section 221(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) is for the most part used for requesting additional information from the beneficiary such as missing documents, additional evidence, or advising them of not being able to issue their visa due to pending name/security checks i.e. Administrative Processing However, Section 221(g) is also used by the Department of State when returning petitions/applications to the USCIS for further review ultimately recommending revocation.
Why are Petitions/Applications Returned to the USCIS by an Embassy/Consulate Under Section 221(g)?
Petitions/applications are returned for a variety of case specific reasons. Returning a petition/application to the USCIS means that the embassy/consulate refuses to issue a visa to the beneficiary, but they do not have specific evidence to actually deny a visa application. So the next best thing to do is return the petition/application to the USCIS office where the petition was originally filed requesting further review and ultimately recommending revocation.
What Happens When a Petition/Application is Returned to the USCIS by an Embassy/Consulate?
• 221(g) is issued to beneficiary at conclusion of the interview stating the application and/or petition is being returned to the United States.
• Petition is returned to the United States by the interviewing consulate for "further review"
• Returned petition is received by the NVC. It is reviewed and entered into the fraud database by fraud management.
• Returned petition is sent to the local USCIS service center where the petition was originally filed and approved.
• Local service center receives returned petition.
• Local service center who processed the original petition sends a notice of receipt to the petitioner.
• Local service center reviews the returned petition and consular officer notes on the case.
• Local service center then sends either a NOID (Notice of Intent to Deny) or NOIR (Notice of Intent to Revoke) to the petitioner also asking for more proof of the relationship, many cases have specific consular objections to rebut.
• Petitioner is given 30-60 days from date of NOIR/NOID (depending on the service center) to respond with additional evidence of the relationship or other specific evidence. The timeframe to respond will be provided in the letter.
• Local service center receives evidence...if in the timeframe given (30-60 days) the case is reviewed and either original approval is reaffirmed or the petition is officially denied.
• If the petition is denied the local service center sends the petitioner an 'official' denial letter. This can be officially appealed if the denial letter states such.
• If the petition is reaffirmed the local service center sends the petitioner an official notice of reaffirmation.
• Local service center sends the reaffirmed petition AND its evidence provided in the rebuttal directly to the consulate along with a recommendation to issue a visa.
• Consulate notifies the beneficiary of a new interview date.
• Beneficiary has interview for the reaffirmed petition and the visa is either issued, or the case in placed in Administrative Processing which after cleared a visa is issued, or worst case scenario it is denied via Section 221(g) and returned again to the USCIS with a recommendation for revocation.
Hope with the above process one can judge the timeline for his/her Visa approval.
yes ours has went through all of that process, and has be approved again ..we are just waiting for nvc to receive it...
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i guess vsc to nvc has slowed quite a bit
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COs (Dept. of State)? And I still believe that we deserve to see Gary's supporting figures rather than accept his assertions on faith.All that needs to be highlighted is all of the sex scandals regarding IO's to show that they have too much power and not enough oversight. I realize that last year USCIS created a special hotline to report happenings but I wonder how well that is working...Your case is a good example. Can I give you numbers? No. Can I state that if a couple is qualified for a visa they WILL get it IF THEY (again the power of the USC) pursue the matter with the POWER that they have at their disposal, just as you did. Some visas get denied to people who aren't qualified or who did not (through their own errors) prove the legitimacy of their relationship...again THEIR fault going in.
I cannot see how blaming the problems on the nameless, faceless government is of benefit to anyone in the process. On the other hand, informing someone they DO have a lot to do with the outcome is beneficial in that it makes them aware of the power they have to influence the process. It suprises me, Tbone, really...after all you wnet through and finally being successful that YOU would suggest that YOU didn't have anything to do with it. Heck, I have always admired how you worked through everything and were successful. I thought YOU were excellent proof to my point. Maybe it was just luck? Don't you think YOU had a lot to do with it? Even if an attorney did something for you, YOU chose the attorney and chose to pursue justice.
I think your getting a visa in a difficult consulate is much more an example of USC influence than me getting 3 visas in a relatively easy consulate. Maybe you don't agree. In fact your case is a perfect inspiration for my opinion.
Congratulations again.
I will say this and this only. the Guayaquil consulate, I didnt attend the interview. The first question asked was, where is your fiance? Then immediately said we suggest you have a joint matrimonial interview. Every other couple we know of at the consulate, was asked the same question, and was denied at the first interview. So you can form an opinion if you want.
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Okay she didnt say congt you are approved and she put me on Ap she said she cant grant me a visa and the she gave me that paper explaining why but said dont worry she is going to send my documents to washington for more AP and if they approve then then they will send it back to the embassy here in jordan and they will call me to send my passport to issue the visa thats what she said to me or to tell me that my case is denied now maybe you are right they might discoverd something else but when my wife called her sent office there they told her that they called the embassy and said that my x marriage issue is no longer an issue its just confusing man i dont no iam so tired of that.....
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first of all relax please
i know how that can be so frsutrated ...............
most cases that are put into AP ..they have the Magic workd (congratulations u r approved ) ,,, but even if they didnt as in ur case and u were put in AP ,,then refused thats really mean onething `` they found something``
the reason im pretty sure that i read their policy everywhere and it state the following
1: no visa or travel document to be issued in case the officer have some doubts about the real reason and case he is reviewing (thts whts we call AP )
2: NO officer is allowed to deny a petition only after being so certain and stating a report of why he/she deny the visa , this report is required by law to be given by the officer before returning the petition back the USCIS ,,
so what we have here ? what im saying if ur petition was returned so something wrong they found otherwise THEY CANT just simply retun it ..or they would simply deny u for a reason at the time of Interview ..
wht can you do ?
1:search in ur history about any problem u may have that caused such a decision to be made
2:make your wife contact her senator to put an Inquire and to stand on the real reason why the petition is refused and being returned
3:if the final decision that the petition is returned and there is a reason u could fine by the EX ways i said above ..then make ur wife consult an immigration lawyer at once ..that would be the best then ...
i know how u feel man , its all a frustrating process ..and i never saw such a case of AP denied at the end unless there is something ...so please research ur case ..history and i recommend her to call her senator immediately and putting an Inquiry ...
my best wishes for u and let us know of updates ....
I read that same thing about revocation of petitions...you say they are required by law...what law? who enforces it...who enforces anything in u.s. consulates? their decisions are not reviewable by any court.
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Most of the time the K1 will expire before it gets back to the USCIS so they will not even review it, but in some cases they will. In my case they are reviewing it because my senator contacted Bennit and he promissed my senator I would get a chance to appeal it so there is a special request for the USCIS to review it. my K1 was last touched 06/17/2009 we were denied back in December of 2008. Even if they do approve my K1 and send it back it won't help since we are married now and filed for a CR1 the K1 becomes invalid. I would advise not to marry her now that they are sending your K1 back because they will not give you the k1 visa if you are married you will have to file for a CR1 and wait 6 months or longer.
The denial ratio for K1 are over 50% in Ho Chi Minh it is the hardest place to get a visa. I have personally spoken to many attorneys in the US and Vietnam and have had several consults. There is a misconception here and that is when the petition is sent back to the USCIS if it does not expire in the case of a K3 or CR1 the USCIS will most of the time agree with the consulate and not reaffirm the petition to send back. In that case you will get a NOIR letter and you will get 30 days to respond with your evedience. Most of the time 90% to 95% they will agree with the petitioner if the evedince is stong and you have addressed the consulate's issues and concers and reaffirm the petition and send it back to the consulate with a recommendation to issue the visa. You will then get a second interview this interview you will have a high chance to pass and get the visa. For them to fail you the second time after the USCIS approved they would have to come up with new evedience to deny. The consulate cannot deny for a reason the USCIS is aware of when the approve or reaffirm you petition. If they denied for non bonafied the first time and the USCIS asks for your evedience then sends visa back to the consulate the chances for them denying for non bonafide the second time listing the same reason they did the first time are nill.
So if they deny for non bonafide because of no engagement party or saying you proposed after knowing her for only 2 weeks and the USCIS is aware of this and they arrpove your visa or reaffirm it and send it back the consulate cannot use that as an excuse to deny. They can ask you wife whats his favorite color or favorite food and if she says I don't know then they can deny for non bonafide because she didn't know husbands favorite food or color but I have never seen that happen when the issue's were address properly on the appeal.
We were denied in ecuador for "immigration purposes only" and they sent our case back, and uscis reaffirmed without any requests..we just got a new notice of action 2.... its says receipt date...oct...2007... and approval date june 12 2009.... and they sent another notice of action that says its been sent to dos for action..
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I am so upset. I called NVC to see if our case has been forwarded too..and told it was pulled for AP. THE MOST frustrating part is not only will they not clarify what exactly this means, but there is NO time frame...meaning they can take as much time on it as they damn well please. Our K1 was going through just peachy...then this. I feel like my heart is breaking!
-Blu-(
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I cannot help but wonder what kind of hassle I would go through to immigrate to Holland. It HAS to be less than THIS B.S.
Does anyone know if calling an elected official can help with this? I am just beside myself with worry now. We were planning our wedding, now I don't want to even do that because who KNOWS when that will ever happen.
-Blu-(at the end of my rope)
We been planning our wedding since 2007 ...lol everything is with there time from...Elected officials can inquire for you, but they cant speed up the process by any means. unless it was the President im sure . we are just waiting for uscis to nvc and back to consulate..
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It is easy to get a live person but that person is usually a customer service representative who simply reads out the information you can find without their help. Apparently these people have been trained to give out pat responses and to avoid transferring you to an immigration officer at all costs.
The only people who actually know what is going on with your case are the immigration officers but they are kept from taking customer calls - maybe for a good reason. I would much rather have them working on the cases instead of taking calls. What USCIS could do is give their customer service representatives a little more visibility into where each application is, but that may only generate more questions from customers ...
Deepak
I have NOA2 and the website still says pending on our case. When I call speak to a live rep, she reads what the website says..Its not updated. The automated guy also tells you, this is the most recent information regarding your case, before he offers to transfer you to a live rep. So yea, their info is generic and you can see the same information on their website.. hope that helps..
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im hoping and praying my friend this goes smooth ... still waiting to get to nvc so we can set the appointment...who knows i might have to come back while you are there
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