Abygail

You just need to file within the 90 days.

I'm looking back now too and after reading your previous post, I realized I didn't fill in all the blanks - OH CRAPOLLA!

Of course, the instructions say to fill in all blanks and use "none" or "n/a" where appropriate, and I didn't (I should have said n/a to other names, my A#, & kids).

Anybody know what will happen now?

Thanks for any input to help calm our nerves!

hi Aby & thanks for your PM to show me this thread.

Speaking strictly from my own personality and how I would tend to handle such a thing, I'll say that you seem to have the same kind of common sense as I do. Normally I'm loathe to disagree with Yodrak because when I do, but look more carefully, I see my error. However, I wonder if Y saw your I-751 filing date and took that into account.

It's well documented that I-90 takes the better part of a year from filing to new card. As you know, you'll have a new card before that via the I-751 process.

I would not have much issue with the missing copy of the back of the card, but I'd probably put in a note where that page would be, explaining the situation. Evidence of the steps you've taken since the loss (new accts, police report etc) can be back up evidence.

This is a case where the letter of the law vs the spirit of the law vs practicalities collide a bit. You may want to do a little risk/benefit analysis of your own and ask yourself 'what is the worst that could happen' as a result of not filing I-90. We already know the risk of not filing I-751 on time (fatal) but the I-90 requirement? Might be time to apply the Jesuit principle* IF/WHEN it comes up.

Based on what you were told at your non-InfoPass and my own experience, once you have your I-751 NOA extending status for a year, you *should* be able to get a passport I-551 stamp in his passport as your required (remind them) evidence of status. We had to get one while waiting for the new card production (had to turn in the expired card at approval and place order for new one--it's a bit different now). Don't be surprised if the stamp is valid for less than one year.

Common sense got me through a lot of this process when I didn't have anyone to ask and nowhere to look it up.

*"it's better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission"

Meauxna, thank you so much for weighing in!

I think you'll all be glad to know we sent our I-751 off today... so, no more indecisiveness from us, and no looking back now. We ended up including an explanation in place of the copy of the back of the green card. I hope our examiner will use the same logic we did. Not sure what the worst could happen for not filing the I-90 is, but hopefully we don't find out. I'm looking at it as though our case & situation is on their desk now, and they've got about 2 months to let us know before the card expires anyway. We definitely plan on getting my husband's passport stamped once we receive the NOA.

Thanks again to everyone who offered feedback!

I would go ahead and file the I-751 with a copy of the front of the green card. When you copy the back of the green card..all that comes up is a black/white picture of nothing. If you have a family memeber that has another green card in their possession, just use theirs to copy the back of it. No personal information s uch as name, date of birth or photo is on it, unless you do color printnig which may show the hologram that is printed.

I think you should not file an I-90 because it will be nothing but a waste of money for you. We got our I-751 approved in 2 months. As long as you can provide evidence of a bona fide relationship, i dont think you should worry too much about this green card thing. Believe me, these people have millions of applications to look at every day and th ey will not stop yours and realize that there is something "fishy" about the back of your green card.

I guess you will now have some paranoid pple going against this

Thanks for the input. At the moment we're leaning towards sending the I-751 without doing the I-90. I also was able to get through on the phone with USCIS and was told about the same thing as at the Infopass appt. They're not sure, but that it was up to our discretion and that of the reviewing case officer. She also agreed with the infopass appt. rep. (include an explanation and ask within it to be advised if we need to do the I-90 still). For this route, I've got proof that we've opened new accounts, new cards, filed fraud alerts, and we'll be filing a police report today (a week late due to some bad info from the clerk at the station).

Any updates on this situation? I am so sorry for you. You must be stressing like crazy!! I am sure it will all work out in the end. Hang in there!

Please see the update below; I know it's not much of one & that we just need to make the choice and move on.

Thanks to all for the support and input.

Ok, here's how the Infopass appt. went---

We didn't get past the officer at the front door, since she said there was nothing they could do for us (stamp passport) till we have a pending case. When I first explained our situation, she said that there was no point in filing the I-90 and paying the fee because they wouldn't process it with the card expiring anyway, and to send in the I-751. I pointed out that the I-751 instructions said to include a copy of the front and back and she suggested including an explanation with our I-751 submission that also questioned if we need to do the I-90 as well. She asked when the wallet was lost, and was thinking we could send a copy of a police report (couldn't file one without proof of id theft). I asked if sending the I-751 without doing the I-90 would result in our case being denied. Again, no answer, but pointed out that we could file the I-90 electronically and pay the fee if we wanted to.

Still undecided...

Ok, here's how the Infopass appt. went---

We didn't get past the officer at the front door, since she said there was nothing they could do for us (stamp passport) till we have a pending case. When I first explained our situation, she said that there was no point in filing the I-90 and paying the fee because they wouldn't process it with the card expiring anyway, and to send in the I-751. I pointed out that the I-751 instructions said to include a copy of the front and back and she suggested including an explanation with our I-751 submission that also questioned if we need to do the I-90 as well. She asked when the wallet was lost, and was thinking we could send a copy of a police report (couldn't file one without proof of id theft). I asked if sending the I-751 without doing the I-90 would result in our case being denied. Again, no answer, but pointed out that we could file the I-90 electronically and pay the fee if we wanted to.

Still undecided...

pratdeh,

This is what the Immigration Timelines section of VJ is for.

Yodrak

Hello Everyone,

Does anyone have experience sending the I-751 application packet to Nebraska Service Center?

If yes, how long does NSC takes to send NOA, Biometrics and Approval??? Can someone share the experiences here in this thread????

Thanks in advance

Great section too! I noticed that you have to go to the advanced view to see the column for the approval date / greencard received. I wasn't able to sort by service center, but maybe that's just me.

Why you all people making such a big deal of everyday thing???

Whenever you give your check you give ur account number and routing number at the bottom with full name and address at the top, so will you black out it too??? Don't worry guys only account number will not do any harm as its normal everyday practice of our financial system.

Don't worry be Happy

Sorry to work anyone up by recirculating the topic-

I guess I'm being overly cautious these days, now that we've had to open new accounts, issue fraud alerts, etc.

Best wishes, and hope to join you soon!

Thanks all - and I hadn't thought about the $ amounts too.

Congratulations!

(I wish CSC could help out TSC & NSC again.)

Is it the consensus to 'black out' account/card numbers, or not?

Just checking, thanks.

I know you mentioned having extra documents to include showing you never received the original greencard; if you haven't filed for the I-90, you might have time to still get the NOA from it to include with your I-751 submission. From recently looking at the instructions (you probably noticed my thread on my husband losing his gc), I also noticed a category that might apply to your situation:

If you are filing for the following reasons, the base application fee of $190 is not required. The biometrics fee of $70 is not required. Please note: These reasons are not available through the E-Filing system. Please review the Special Instructions if you are filing for these reasons.

My authorized card was never received.

Just a thought, and good luck!

That's what I was thinking, thanks for the response.

I keep going back and forth on this, but I guess now I either need to be patient for a week till the appt. or decide which to go forward with('do what I can do'). This is especially driving me crazy since we had just finished gathering all our evidence and could have submitted the I-751 tomorrow.

Some good news - I was finally able to schedule an infopass appt. for a week from now. Think the I-90 could wait till talking with an immig. officer? The appt. is at their cust. serv. ctr., not their field office which is where I'm understanding they process id cards / passport stamps with form I-797 or approval notice (we don't have anyway). So, we'll see what they say at the customer service center.... and don't get me wrong, I appreciate all of your answers and advice!!! BTW, the office locations here say you must schedule an appt. (we'd be waiting all day in Miami & still might be with an appt.)

I guess my confusion is partially from USCIS' instructions for the I-90:

E-File this form to replace a "Green Card."

Note: Do not use this Form I-90 if you are a conditional resident and your status is expiring. You must apply accordingly to remove the conditions:

If you became a conditional resident through a marriage to a U.S. Citizen or permanent resident, submit Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence

Thank you again to everyone, and please excuse all my ramblings.

I guess it would be worth the double fees just to have a receipt in his possesion... so would the I-90 be cancelled once the I-751 is being processed? Sorry, I keep thinking having the I-90 and I-751 in almost concurrently will just complicate things (i.e. applying for a replacement card that will be expired, scheduled for biometrics back-to back)?

Any idea how long it would be to get some documentation from the USCIS on the replacement, so that this could be included with the I-751? (I'd like to file for the I-90 electronically to speed things up, but need another credit card first.) I wish we could still apply to remove conditions with what we have, and then report it lost somehow.

Thanks for the help,

Abygail

Abygail,

If you're reasonbly certain that the wallet and card are not likely to be found I would have your husband apply for a replacement card right away.

And whenever he's ready to apply for removal of conditions, send whatever he has to send - one cannot send what they do not have. If all he's got is a photocopy of the front of the card, he should include an explanation for why he's sending the front only.

Stop worrying about the things that you have no control over and start doing the things that you can do.

Yodrak

Sorry I can't be much help - did you try calling them on 1-800-375-5283? Frankly I would do the I90 (but that's just my opinion), because if you don't report it lost, its a misdemeanor for not carrying it. Perhaps you could try to PM Yodrak or Meaxana or one of those guru types, and ask them for advice....

Apologies I can't help more ...

I would file the I 751 with the evidence you have and at lease get the ball rolling.

Thank you for the responses! I've tried calling, but can't seem to get through to speak to anyone without a case/receipt number. I'm understanding that even if we sent the I-90, we'd still have to wait ~month for a NOA/receipt, just like with the I-751. And, if I send the I-751 and then want to report it lost, I can't imagine they'd tell me to do the I-90 too? Maybe I'll have some luck and be able to schedule an infopass appt. (still none available). My husband still thinks we can just call somebody or go in to report it, just like that. Thanks again for the opinions!

Sorry that I keep posting with questions, but I'm desperately trying to figure out what to do. Does anyone have an idea what would happen if I did send in the I-751 with only the front of the greencard copied? Would we still get the NOA, and ext. letter, and then maybe later they'd send an RFE? I could do the I-90 first, but I recall reading about somebody having problems with the biom. appt. where they were told they needed to to the I-751...

Great, can't speak to anyone or schedule an info appt. - none are available in our area.

Thanks again everyone - it does help!

I'll definitely schedule an appt., which probably won't be for awhile -

So, you all think I should hold off on submitting the I-751, and do the I-90?

Thank you all for the advice... believe me, we've looked & called everywhere for that wallet. I'm really torn on what to do still. I was literally ready to send in our I-751 by the end of the week and I'm so upset that I hadn't copied the back of the card (still not sure why it's important). And, what if I had sent it in, forgot to copy the back, and then the card was lost? I'm holding off on calling or scheduling an appt. till we decide what to do: send in I-751 anyway, or go for the I-90 (fees & biometric appt. twice).

In addition to your front copy of the I-551 card, you can also suplement that with the Passport stamp given to your spouse during the AOS interview if available,!

Thank you sooooo much for the input. The passport stamp expired 11/05, would this still be good to use? Also, I have the notice from USCIS that came with the greencard.

I'm leaning towards going forward with our I-751 with just the copy of the front, maybe the addt'l stuff above too. Not sure I'd want to include any explanation yet, hoping that they would process as normal and we'd get the NOA and ext. letter. I'm also thinking on holding off on the I-90 replacement and then following up with USCIS after the I-751 is in to find out what we do???

I'll try calling USCIS...

Sorry if this is obvious, but since I don't have the card to look at, why is a copy of the back important? Is there info on the back specific to the individual, besides that scan bar, that would show up on a copy? I guess I'm getting at the thought of sending in our I-751 with the front copy I have and hope we'll get the NOA and letter extending for a year. Then we could find out what happens when losing card???

My husband just lost his wallet, which of course had his CR1 green card in it. We were just preparing all the evidence to send in to lift conditions, as it expires 5-29-07... and our luck would have it that I hadn't copied the front & back yet. I'm really losing it right now and I hope you all have some hopeful advice for us. I've read about filing the I-90 and it seems that it would be about the same process and amount of time & $ as the I-751.

Any help is greatly appreciated,

Abygail

P.S. Sorry, I meant to mention that I do have a copy of the front only.