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Congratulations! I am surprised they accepted the Live Birth document given that the State Department is clear on what type of birth certificate is accepted. Very proactive and responsible on your part to get a passport for your child soon after birth. Best of travels to you and your family.

Maybe I missed it but what country is your father a citizen of and what is his age and medical condition?

I hope I am giving you appropriate advice. Everything I know about an official birth certificate versus a live birth certificate is that only the former can be used for official governmental business, ie., acquiring a passport. For example, let's say you want your child to have dual citizenship (I hope you do) and you send the required information to the Canadian Consulate that serves your area. Part of the required information is an official birth certificate (long form) you would have to send to the Canadian Consulate. Yes, you should go to your municipal office or just call them to have them send you the long form birth certificate. This can be done by mail. Here is a better explanation of the two documents and the process of how an official birth certificate is created from the live birth certificate. Best A baby’s birth certificate is created using a form called the U.S. Standard Certificate of Live Birth. This form simply states that a child was born in the United States and was considered medically alive at birth. The certificate is usually filled out by the child’s parents or the staff members at the hospital or facility where the child was born. Then, it must be submitted, either by mail or electronically, to the state, county, or city office responsible for creating and maintaining birth records in that state. The Certificate of Life Birth form includes information on the: Baby’s full name Baby’s place, date, and time of birth Baby’s gender, race, weight, and any health conditions Parents’ full names Hospital or birthing facility where the baby was born Attending doctors or midwives The person completing the birth record The baby’s parents, the facility staff, or the attending doctors or midwives can submit the form to the state. The appropriate agency will process the Certificate of Live Birth, then the vital records office for the state will issue a new U.S. birth certificate for the child. Birth Certificate vs. Certificate of Live Birth While a Certificate of Live Birth is used to create a birth certificate, they are not the same documents. The Certificate of Live Birth is the application, while the birth certificate is the actual vital record created using the information provided on the form. A person’s original birth certificate is always kept on file at the vital records office where it was created. The vital records office will use the original to make a certified copy of the birth certificate when requested. Certified or long-form copies of a birth certificate will contain information on the individual’s: Full, legal name Place and date of birth Gender at birth Parents’ names A certified birth certificate copy will include certain identifying features, including a raised, multicolored, or embossed state seal, the registrar’s signature, and the date of issuance. Only certified copies can be used as proof of identity, age, and citizenship.

The passport was received in less than 2 weeks using a regular application. However, I am concerned that you used a Certificate of Live Birth as proof of citizenship. That type of certificate is only used to transfer to vital records hospital information so that an official certificate of birth can be created I don't want to tell you that you might get your application returned or you will be asked for an official birth certificate. Here is an official quote on certificate of live birth: " "A Certificate of Live Birth cannot be used as proof of identity, citizenship, nor to request the issuance of identification documents. It is the registration form that doctors, midwives, or hospital representatives fill out when a child is born." https://www.usbirthcertificates.com/glossary/certificate-of-live-birth You should get the official long form birth certificate from vital records and at least be ready just in case you have to amend your application. Best to you and your new addition to your family.

Amen! I never gave advice on the K-1. I only expounded on the Kafkaesque and absurd crime being committed. I am willing to bet he will not be denied for a non-existent crime.

Read the original post and you will see that he has no idea why he did a small amount of hours of community service. Again, and again, there wasn't a crime committed and he was a minor. This at best was a social transgression and he was punished by by some local community service. Show me the crime and shoe me the adjudication. They do not exist. The solutions proposed by some posters are now so absurd that they are Kafkaesque!

Read the original post: he was a minor. He tried everyday possible to find a record and not a scintilla of a crime emerged. Maybe your stock of knowledge is rich but you need to review your reading skills. Show me the crime! Not even the petitioner could find a crime that he supposedly committed as an adolescent.

Read his post again and you will see that there wasn’t a crime adjudicated. This was at best a social transgression most likely handled by the school or community authorities. A legal and adjudicates crime was not committed.

Lack of opposable thumbs…My K-1 has nothing to do with my stock of knowledge regarding this issue. Again, show me the crime and I’ll show you how the petitioner should amend his application. Your advice would be met with a laugh and a sneer at any immigration office.

I am truly familiar with the rules and regulations. The problem in the end is that there wasn't a crime. There isn't a record of a crime. This implied argument that the authorities have ways of finding out about events that we do not already know about is ludicrous. The FBI, State and local authorities do not know of any crime the petitioner committed and by the way, neither does the petitioner. This is absurd and an over reaction. It's obvious the petitioner did something and it appears he was punished by having to payback the community with some time of service. Obviously some fair minded person got the petitioner to do something to amend for his discretion. This is like a parent punishing a kid. Pretty soon some posters of this site are going to start saying that the crime is that he thought about it, therefore he committed it. Show me the crime and I'll be the first to tell the petitioner to amend his petition.

The first sentence does not lead to any discussion. It's truncated! If you know what the correct approach please describe in detail. The second sentence is a little too cryptic:t, "...visa you did"?

Thank you for your thoughtful and astute response. I agree completely! So far the petitioner has not amended his application in which he would respond "yes" to an issue that is at best ethereal and from all evidence undocumented. My concern is if he amends his application there will be unnecessary delays and worse he would be unable to document whatever so called "crime" he states occurred. It will, potentially, send USCIS on a wild goose chase or badger the petitioner for more information over and over again.

The big difference is that there isn’t a record available and there isn’t a charge. There is nothing expunged. I think people are trying to make something out of nothing. USCIS and anybody else will find nothing in this case. I think the advice this poster is getting it’s based on the assumption that a real criminal event having occurred. Sorry, argument that he should admit to something that he can’t even verify is not even illogical, it’s alogical and absurd.

There is absolutely no record of whatever the event was. He was a minor and most likely it was handled by a juvenile court (I doubt it was even that severe). I think it's just a little worse than being sent to "time out". Also, he is a petitioner, not an applicant for naturalization. My strong advice is to leave it alone. Nothing will come of it...

This is the best advice so far. Leave it alone. Go on with your life. Whatever occurred to you or did will not pop-up and surprise you. Get it out of your mind and relax and concentrate on your petition. Everything is going to be fine. There is nothing there for you to confess to or own up to.