Mounir Ali

20 hours ago, geowrian said:

Your ability to work is a positive factor overall in the determination for public charge, but it doesn't meet the requirements for the I-864 nor completely alleviate the concern.

The CO will evaluate the totality of her circumstances, along with that of any joint sponsor presented. From that, they will make a public charge determination. Nobody other than the CO can know the result of that decision beforehand, although you and your spouse know your circumstances better than anybody so you can probably already have an idea if your case makes sense or not.

 

A job offer is not a job...the US government does not rely on you getting a job or maintaining a job - it needs an assurance in case you don't (or can't...if something happens to you) work.

 

Edit: Also see this section of the FAM for some more info: https://fam.state.gov/FAM/09FAM/09FAM030208.html#M302_8_2_B_2

So there is no point of getting a job offer ?

19 hours ago, JFH said:

I guess you communicate a lot online? Do you spend all day emailing or messaging each other back and forth? Video chatting? Skyping? I sit at a desk using a computer all day. The most strenuous thing I have to do is walk to the printer to pick up what I have printed. I think most people would be able to do a job like that, even if it’s just part time. Especially if they have no problems using a phone or computer to communicate with a loved one all day. 

 

We are not saying your wife has to get a job. We are not divorced so we don’t know her capabilities. However you asked for help to improve your final situation and one of the best ways to increase your income is to work. 

I said in the begining she " CAN'T " work  it means she can't .. like you said her working is one of the ways and i wanted to know the other ways but i dont know why you were just talking about her working even i said she can't it's like you don't believe me . 

- I dont get a lot of people used just co sposnor   ( spouse not working )and they got their visa approved 

- i also dont understand the fact for them asking for a co sponsor if they will always look at the spouse sponsor ( whats the point  of co sponsor ) 

2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Your ability to work is a positive factor overall in the determination for public charge, but it doesn't meet the requirements for the I-864 nor completely alleviate the concern.

The CO will evaluate the totality of her circumstances, along with that of any joint sponsor presented. From that, they will make a public charge determination. Nobody other than the CO can know the result of that decision beforehand, although you and your spouse know your circumstances better than anybody so you can probably already have an idea if your case makes sense or not.

 

A job offer is not a job...the US government does not rely on you getting a job or maintaining a job - it needs an assurance in case you don't (or can't...if something happens to you) work.

 

Edit: Also see this section of the FAM for some more info: https://fam.state.gov/FAM/09FAM/09FAM030208.html#M302_8_2_B_2

Thank you very much . This was the best and smartest answer !! Thanks again 

13 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

No.  Only current US-based income can be considered.

18 minutes ago, JFH said:

Indeed! Particularly in stores. In the store where we shop the packing and carrying out is often done by a young man with Down Syndrome, for example. 

I didnt ask if my wife can work or not ! If she was working i wouldnt ask about anything  ! asked about ways to strentgh our financial state 

Just now, Jorgedig said:

Sorry to hear, but anemia does not preclude people from working.

She gets tired a lot ... the goverment test her every year and for that reason they give her cheque each month 

3 minutes ago, JFH said:

Indeed! Particularly in stores. In the store where we shop the packing and carrying out is often done by a young man with Down Syndrome, for example. 

If she was able to work .. they wouldnt give her cheque each month for her inability to work 

Just now, JFH said:

Indeed! Particularly in stores. In the store where we shop the packing and carrying out is often done by a young man with Down Syndrome, for example. 

My wife is anemic too . She is my wife and i know what i'm talking about !!

55 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

There are no absolutes or guarantees.  The IO will look at the totality of the situation when determining how likely you are to become a public

53 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

There are no absolutes or guarantees.  The IO will look at the totality of the situation when determining how likely you are to become a public charge.

I understand so you talked abouy job offer ... how can i get a job offer and will it help the financial situation ?

1 hour ago, HuberKimFamily said:

Hey!

 

So I think that everyone here has given you great responses about the reality of the situation.

 

Since you are moving to the USA, is it possible for you to work and take the language courses?

It is better to have far more than $4,000 cash. Maybe more like over 100K of cash or have a job offer. Which is the tricky part.

 

Also I think it might be best for your wife to find a job and have a therapist who can help her through the issues so that she may work. 

 

Good luck~

My wife can't work we tried that before and it didn't help and i only have $4,000 and her granpa is a manager of a store and he will sponsor me

 Will i get denied if we keep the situation like that ?  

Hey . Me ( beneficiary ) and my wife ( Us Citizen ) have a son together ... our son has his mom's last name  .

we were wondering if :  -  Will Giving him my last name : 1 - affect our process of the IR1 Visa ( didn't send the folder yet ) 

                                                                                                    2-  affect his foodstamps and medicaid that my wife is taking for him 

Thanks !!

43 minutes ago, JFH said:

I agree. It doesn’t make sense at all. It’s a crazy rule for spouses. Even fiancés only have to show 100% of the poverty level for the embassy interview and they are bringing someone into the country who cannot legally work for many months. But spouses, who can work from day 1, have to show 125%. Also a spouse is the person you would do anything for. Although my husband was unemployed at the time of my interview he took the first job he found because he loves me more than anyone else in the world and wanted us to be able to be together. The absolute last thing he would want to happen is see me having to apply for welfare. He’s much too proud for that. So, although we live in cold and wet Washington state, he took a job in a cemetery, outside all day in the cold and rain. That’s what you do for the one you love. Do DV winners have someone here who would go to such lengths to support them? Highly unlikely. 

Yes totally true and DV winnees have no one over there and almost of them dont even talk or write one sentence of english ...but this is life , people who made the laws are humans being and they are not perfect so 

- I would love to know from you what can me and my wife do to strenght our financial case other than what we have now 

- And also will the fact of her being unemployed will make our chances very low ? ( even her granpa will sponsor me )  . Do they deny people a lot because of that ? 

Thanks 

17 minutes ago, JFH said:

Your qualifications won’t help or hinder your case. Your savings don’t go far here and you don’t need to show anything like that. 

 

What you need to remember is that the officials who make the decisions don’t base their decisions on “what if’s”, they use facts. So, you will still need to overcome the public charge issue even if you hold 10 degrees, speak 15 languages fluently and have never been unemployed in your life. Whilst statistically you should have a good chance of getting a job here, the officials will only look at known facts, not probable outcomes. 

 

The facts that they use for your case are:

 

- your wife does not work and is not able to work

- she has a very modest income from the government 

- she is already having to support a child on that low amount

- she wants to add another adult to the household who is not entitled to any public assistance 

 

They don’t take into account “hopefully I’ll get a job” or “I have these qualifications for this job” because these are all things that are not guaranteed. I had a job offer before I had my embassy interview. The salary was $72,000 a year. We are a household of two (just my husband and me). Even with a written job offer I still had to have a joint sponsor as my husband was unemployed at the time of my interview. They only look at things which have actually happened/already exist. Not promises, hopes, potential situations. 

 

 

 

I understand !! And again it makes sense 

So is there any way we can strentgh our financial case or do we need just to send the folder with her granpa sponsoring me and wait for the rest ? 

Thanks 

PS : they don't ask for co sponsor in green card lottery ... people who have been selected only need an address of someome living there and they got approved ! This doesnt make sense for me 

18 minutes ago, missileman said:

Have you considered moving them to your country to live?

yes !! this is what i was planning to do when we got married ( i don't have a problem where to live as long as i'm with my wife and son )

i really don't wanna go into details but after 3 months of her being here she told me she can't live here ( her learning disability  is one of the reasons )

1 minute ago, JFH said:

Please note that sponsorship isn’t about providing someone with a place to stay and a plate of food three times a day. Sponsorship is a legally binding contract between the sponsor and the US government. When someone agrees to act as a joint sponsor it’s a lot more than offering food until they get a job. It’s an agreement from the sponsor that they will be held accountable and can be sued by the government if the immigrant becomes a public charge. In your situation that’s a very valid concern. 

 

Sponsorship doesn't end when immigrant gets his first pay check here. It lasts until the immigrant becomes a USC, can be credited with 40 quarters of work, leaves the USA permanently, dies or when the sponsor dies, whichever of those happens first. 

what you are saying is very right and it makes a lot of sense to me .

what do you suggest to help the situation ? ,do you think show them i will bring money with me i( like 4.000 dollars ) is helpful  ? or show them my dilpoma or my level of english ?

you obviously know better than me in all this so i would love to know your suggestions to help ( me and my wife love each other and our son is growing up ) *

Thanks ! 

1 minute ago, Daphne K said:

These would be the questions I asked earlier. How many times have you seen eachother?, how many visits before proposing/getting married?, how many after?, is there a huge age gap (I don't think so as she had your child), difference in religion?, are both families on board?, evidence of that in form of pictures with family members etc..

yes i understand !! 

so it's been 2 years we got married ( our son is 8 months old ) and we are about to send the folder 

this is the third time she visits me and each time she stay 3 months with me 

we talked 7 months before she came here the first time and after one month of her being here we got married

i'm 3 years older than her ( 20s)

we have the same religion 

we have a lot of pictures show our love with my family and our son ( and beautiful wedding with  70 invitation )

i was sending for her money after she got pregnant and i have proves

1 minute ago, JFH said:

Read about the public charge issue. They need to know her income and situation because of this. What if you don’t find a job immediately? 

alright i'm reading about it now , and that's why i'm gonna have a joint sponsor , if i don't find a job immediately he is gonna sponsor me ( living in his house etc ...) and i'm gonna also take money with me ( i saved money while i was working here ) 

11 minutes ago, missileman said:

Do you have red flags such as a large age gap, different religions, etc?

i don't know what red flags are ( i heard about them before )  so i'm reading about them now and i'm gonna answer 

12 minutes ago, missileman said:

In what field will you be looking for employment?

My field is chemistry but at the begining i'm ready to work any job until i found my field

9 minutes ago, JFH said:

If the learning disability prevents her from working, is she able to sign documents? Does she understand the forms? Does she have a power of attorney in place for this? It sounds like she can’t live independently - was she legally able to consent to the marriage?

 

I agree with the others regarding the public charge issue. It’s one thing to be temporarily unemployed but able to work and looking for work. It’s quite another to be permanently unable to work.   

5 minutes ago, JFH said:

If the learning disability prevents her from working, is she able to sign documents? Does she understand the forms? Does she have a power of attorney in place for this? It sounds like she can’t live independently - was she legally able to consent to the marriage?

 

I agree with the others regarding the public charge issue. It’s one thing to be temporarily unemployed but able to work and looking for work. It’s quite another to be permanently unable to work.   

yes she is able to understand talk and sign papers and she is so smart and it's just she gets irritated around people and she is very shy towards others than her family and she can't handle the stress of work ... i love her and i wanna work for her for all the rest of our life ... i know life won't be easy without her working but she just wanted to stay at the house and take care of our child and it's fine with me 

i mean why will they look at her ability to work instead of looking at my ability to work 

we already took a attorney it's been 1 year and a half but he was dishonnest so we are gonna start the folder together !

6 minutes ago, Daphne K said:

It is! How did you draw the conclusion that it is not from the answers?

BOTH the financial AND the other circumstances are important.

Based on her income, I don’t think that is enough so yes she will very probably need a joint sponsor actually.

i meant even after having a joint sponsor they will be still looking at her income ..... normally the joint sponsor will provide for me what i need  few weeks before i find a job and a house .... so i think it's not a big deal since it's just a temporary .

55 minutes ago, debbiedoo said:

i think hes going to view it as a public charge issue

 

good luck to you

26 minutes ago, Daphne K said:

We have no way of knowing how it will be looked at.

Apart from the financial situation (which looks even less ideal to me now), other aspects will also be looked at. How many times have you visited each other? After how many visits did you get married? How many visits since the marriage etc. The totality of your circumstances will decide if your visa will be granted.

So after what i have read i guess the joint sponsor is not important at all !

On 7/12/2019 at 2:37 PM, missileman said:

I assume you and your wife have discussed how you are going to afford living in the US.  From what I have seen, Consulate Officers are taking the "public charge" concern more seriously these days.  Having a minimally qualified sponsor/joint sponsor is not always successful now.

23 hours ago, debbiedoo said:

if your wife is not working how are the two of you going to live?

 

life here is not cheap.

 

i doubt granpa wants 2 full grown dependents to care for, clothe, feed, etc

22 hours ago, JFH said:

Can grandpa offer her a job at his store? Is she looking for work? How is she paying her rent and utilities? How will she afford another person in the household? 

22 hours ago, Daphne K said:

I think the totality of your and your wife's situation might be a little tricky. In your other post I saw that you also have a child in this (which is another dependent) so it might be a challenge.

Going to school to learn English is good of course, and I hope this will incease your chances of landing a job in the US quickly so keep working hard to master your English skills.

 

Is the fact that your wife does not work a decision or an unfortunate circumstance? It might help if she has a job and shows some financial stability.

I think your case/situation is not an ideal one. However, I have seen a lot of these around here.

Hey thank y'all for your replies ... so my wife has a learning disability and she can't work but she takes 757$ each month because of it plus food stamps and medicaid ... she is living with her grandma and granpa and they help here in staying at their house ... however we talked about that before and when i get there of course im gonna work hard for her and our child ( i have already a bachelor degree here )  so this is the whole situation ... i hope i clarified things ... so what y'all think about this situation and how the officer will look at it ? 

Thanks 

2 minutes ago, USS_Voyager said:

Go for it. 

Do you think its better than sending the american one without my name on it ?

23 minutes ago, USS_Voyager said:

Didn't you just ask this 

I just did his moroccan birth cetificate and i just thought about sending it instead of american one that's why i asked