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44 minutes ago, jan22 said:

Sorry -- I would have stuck to the exact number, if i had understood it.  Somehow got the idea from the multiple threads that were consolidated that you had applied for a B1 twice and a B2 twice.  

 

My basic points re 214b still applies.  Also, two applications with two refusals in the past 6 months will certainly factor into any upcoming interviews.

Thanks for clarifying @jan22

On 11/26/2019 at 9:39 AM, SusieQQQ said:

i don't think they are required to give you an exact reason, however, it could certainly be informative for others if they in fact do, so please update the thread so that other people know it might be worth following up on.  

 

By the way,, although the intended 'new thread' was about FOIA, it is much more informative for posters here if it is in context of your old one.

Sure, I understand. Thanks for merging. Next time I shall add something related in the same thread.

On 11/26/2019 at 11:15 AM, jan22 said:

Whether it is a clear reason for you or not, 214(b) IS the reason for your denial.  You will not get another answer through a FOIA request, because that's the "exact reason for denial" that you are seeking.  If there was another reason in addition to 214(b), it would have been included in your denial slip.   

 

Bottom line, you failed to convince four different officers in four different interviews that you would not stay in the US once you got there  -- which is an absolute requirement under US visa law.  You, obviously, don't agree with them, but they all agreed.  Even though you have traveled to more than 28 countries and didn't stay doesn't mean you wouldn't stay in the US -- maybe they weren't countries you wanted to or even considered staying in. 

 

BTW, I'm sure that applying four times within a matter of a few months communicates an almost desperate need to get to the US to the consular officer, which adds to the issue of overcoming 214 (b).

I have not applied four times. I have applied 2 times. Lets stick to the exact number as others who read the posts might think otherwise.

11 hours ago, aaron2020 said:

You were likely denied for being unable to show strong ties to your home country to overcome the legal presumption that all applicants intend to immigrate.

Were you given anything after your denials?  Did it say 214(b)?

Yes I was given 214(b). The point is that’s not a clear reason for me. I want to know the exact reason for denial and hence want to know if I can apply for FOIA For my visa denial.

i have visa stamps for more than 28 countries and I am earning pretty well, that is good enough to show strong ties to a country where I am living. But there could be more than 1 reason for my visa denial and this time before applying I want to be ready.

10 hours ago, aaron2020 said:

Just checked your profile.  Why are you starting a third thread on this?  You been rejected because of 214(b).  You got 5 pages of responses in one thread.  The answer is not going to change.

 

You were denied because you could not show strong ties to your home country to overcome the legal presumption that all applicants intend to immigrate.  You've been given the reason for your denial.  

 

 

This post is regarding the FOIA Application and not abt when can I apply again. It is different from the previous thread. Thanks

Hello,

My b1/b2 tourist visa has been rejected twice in 2019, June and July respectively. I would like to know the reason for denial. Usually the US consulates do not give the reason for denial, but can I know by any chance the reason of denial? Can I file an FOIA to know the reason of denial or any other way.

Hi,

i was refused a B1/B2 application twice in a months gap, my company wanted to send me for business related stuff, during which the first duration was 2.5 months the next one was 3 weeks.

VO raised this concern and suspected work, and gave me standard 214(b) letters twice.

i wanted to know how much wait time is appropriate and what other things i can improve on my profile in order to improve my chances on next application. I want to go for tourism so this time i will only think of applying B2.

Will me working in the same company create a problem since this company wanted to send me there for 2.5 months and any future applications may be considered as illegal activity again due to same company? Even after a year or 2 of denial, or maybe if i get married in those years?

Current status:

Total 6 years in singapore

1 year in the current company 5 years in the former.

Well to do salary.

travelled to 20+ countries

aged 27

indian

Single

Knowing that i might not get a visa at all is also a possible outcome, anything that seems to give me a fair chance i would be willing to work on that, can someone please help?

Also for countries such as Canada, New Zealand, UK and australia will it pose a concern when travelling for tourism given the fact that the US Visa application was for business since i had the letters.

I dont plan to reapply at least for a year or 2 so i have plenty of time to fix things

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Your prior history is always a part of your record so will be considered as part of any future application.

But it can be overcome over time, will it be a major thing?

or should i just accept that they will never accept me and forget US.

Well i had the interview, explained the change in situation.

i got denied again under the same 214(b), this time them saying that they are suspecting work due to time sensitive meetings, also asked me to apply for a different category of visa.

although this question did pop up from changing 3 month to 3 week itinerary.

i explained, the VO went behind talked to someone came back, typed for 3-4 mins dont know whether he was chatting or writing remarks since there was a pause in between his typing,

my question is will it impact a tourist visa after 1-2 years in case i decide to apply in the future.

I guess after a long period i am assuming this 3 month would still be a problem till the time i work in the same organisation as they will always suspect me that i will work there.

since i believe it wasn’t anything related to the ties in home country or my travel history or my income.

Or is it better to apply only after major change like marriage etc.

i have already traveled to more than 20 countries, have a high range income in Singapore and work for a reputed company known to the US.

since it was a same category of visa i.e B1/B2, and the next time i apply after a year or 2 i would not have company invite letter but will just be going for pleasure, will it still count as no change in circumstances?

I guess for now this means that i shouldn’t be acquiring new visas for one year.

Any advice?

P.S - i have heard from others that i seem desperate, but i have a desire to travel there someday as well as other places in the world, i am just a noble traveler that could be looked upon with suspicions everywhere in the world after this incident.

1 hour ago, Paul & Mary said:

Going in with inconsistent information is not a good start.   Nothing you can do now.

I can choose not going in though.

I couldnt do anything since the approval process took a bit longer due to the upcoming US holidays, its not that my company is lying on the letter or anything.

we did confirm this with the legal team in our office, they happened to mention that it is very common that a person can get delayed if an appointment is not available

Hello,

i managed to get an appointment for next week, but my itinerary starts from next week, should i be worried about that.

this happened due to the lengthy approval process from our business side.

this means that i will be only flying in for 2 weeks.

will it impact my interview?

Hello,

My company has decide to reapply again and this time with a proper itinerary for 2 weeks along with flight tickets.

Anything i should be aware of for the reinterview?

Also will they consider this as “no change in personal circumstances”?

2 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

Sure she has travel to Canada with the VISA decline shown and explained, Nepal, Hong Kong and Malaysia.   

Are you referring to the time frame in which she was rejected and not owning a green card? Or are you referring to the time frame after her acceptance to the 2 countries.

3 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

You tell the truth.  My wife was declined by both Mexico and the US for tourist visas.  She now has a permanent Visa for Mexico and a Green Card for the US.

My concern is for any other country apart from the country for which the visa was rejected, were you able to travel to other countries that required a visa, after your rejections from Mexico and US?

Hi,

The company wanted me to apply for a b1/b2 visa to attend meetings. Unfortunately, my visa got declined under 214(b).

This means I cannot visit US even for tourism because if I apply as a tourist, the CO might decline thinking that I want to enter US at any cost although this is not what I want.

Moreover, applying for other countries toursit visa(canada, Australia, new Zealand) might also have an impact as I will have to mark, YES when asked whether I have been declined a visa before.

What should I do?

3 hours ago, arken said:

I would suggest you apply for B1 again with detailed plan from your employer on what you’ll be doing in those 3 months. May be it gets approved after the CO sees the legit reason. It also shows that the business trip is important and your employer really wants you to go there for business sake. If it gets approved, it will probably look good for your future personal visit application. Worst case, one B1 or two B1 denial will have same effect in future imo.

 

Leaving it behind may just seem like you just tried it without an actual business necessity, for your personal purpose.

Would it really seem as personal purpose even though i had presented letters and a salary statement from my employer?

Do they assume applicants get them forged by the company?

In the case the company retries and tells me to apply for 2 months or lesser now, would it raise other kind of suspicions?

20 minutes ago, Daphne K said:

That could be anything:

The amount of ties (or lack thereof) to your home country?

Maybe previous visa's or many visa applications in your past already (not sure)?

Other family members already living in The States?

The company that you work for might not seem legit enough? (given the poorly prepared visa application)?

 

Did you not get any clarification on the specifics of the personal circumstances when you got denied? You had an interview, correct?

 

The only reply I got was - since you are staying for long you might be involved in an illegal activity we might not know due to the lack of an itinerary.

On 6/1/2019 at 5:45 AM, ElDiablo said:

You sound very desperate to enter the US. How come you suddenly want a visitor visa after being denied for a B1?

 

Something doesn't add up and the CO will see that as well.

Even if my business visa was rejected and I cant attend meetings there now, I would still want to travel to USA for tourism and this is not desperation. But I am not sure what will the CO think about it. In fact my company's mistake to not give me all the documents might backfire on me applying for tourist visa. Thus, I wanted to know what should I do to apply for the tourist visa and after how much time should I apply?

Under section 214(b), they say there should be change in personal circumstances before I apply for the visa again. What is the meaning of change in personal circumstances? 

1 minute ago, SusieQQQ said:

Have all these people gone for 3 months with undefined plans? Or were you adding personal time onto a business trip?

Absolutely no personal time added. I had a letter from the company mentioning the 3 months time from date X to date Y which I submitted to the IO.

1 hour ago, arken said:

As said, it will be on your record and the officer will see why you were denied the first time. It doesn’t necessarily mean you will be denied a visitor visa though.

 

 

How much should the cool down time be if i want to apply for visitor visa, half a year or one year?

1 hour ago, missileman said:

How large is your company?  How many others have they sent to the US before?

Well known US based financial institution.

They have sent around 35-40 in the last year from Singapore office to US office.

15 minutes ago, arken said:

The denial may affect future tourist visa.

 

 

 

 

@arken

In what sense will it affect a future tourist visa, after a year or so my circumstances will be changing and i would no longer be travelling for business purposes instead it would be just for leisure purposes?

Do you think i may never get it again?

I had applied for a b1/b2 visa because my company wanted to send me to attend some business meetings for a span of 3 months. But my visa got rejected and I got a 214(b) rejection.

Status: I have travelled to multiple countries in Asia and Europe(around 20-25). I am working in Singapore with a pretty decent salary for the past 6 years. I have an Indian passport.

Questions asked:

1. Have you ever been to the US before - No

2. What is the purpose of your trip? - Attending business meetings.

3. Do you have any supporting documents? - Yes and showed them through the slot(EP, Invitation letter, salary statement issued by company)

4. How long do you plan to be in the US? - 3 months max.

5. 3 months is a long time. What business meetings would you be attending? - Various business meetings with various clients, stakeholders, business partners.

6. Do you have any itinerary of your stay? - No, the company will decide my itinerary.

Since I didn't have any more evidence/itinerary then, she suspected that I could be involved in any illegal activity and rejected my visa.

What should I do? Should I apply for the visa again immediately or wait for sometime? 

My company is ready to issue the official itinerary and book my confirmed tickets to and fro Singapore.

Will there be any issue if I apply for tourist visa in future? 

P.S. I am a single male in late 20s.

francesmama, I would like to know that for how many days did u plan to go for the States?