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9 hours ago, Hank_ said:

 

You DO NOT need the divorce decree recognized by the Philippine government for the U.S. visa process .... CEMAR (Certificate of Marriage) does not need a notation for the U.S. visa process  .. you do need to provide a copy of the divorce decree (in English) at the time of the interview at the U.S. embassy.

 

You can NOT get married in the Philippines - true,  but then with a K-1 you get married in the USA where divorce decrees are accepted without issue.

 

Don't overthink things.

 

Never DO-DO when DO will DO.

Ah ok.

14 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

Not if it was foreign marriage / divorce like what @Hank_ said. 

 

Ans Yes you can get it the same day.

Did I misunderstand it? She's a filipina married to an American before. Divorce obtained in the USA. It has to be annotaed on the CENOMAR. I know from personal experience as my CENOMAR has a marriage on it from 33 &%$king years ago and prevented me from getting married in Manila last year. And I had certified divorce papers with me. 

On 7/13/2019 at 12:19 PM, redfeather said:

Hank,

If you have a Cenmar and a USA Divorce decree will these be acceptable?

This is what I am trying to find out?

My gf has put the paperwork forward to get her Cenomar, but as slow as the Philippines is...this could take months.

So, I am trying to figure out if she only has in her possession her Cenmar and USA divorce decree will this be acceptable??

Thanks in advance.

Hi, is the divorce annotated on the CENOMAR? It has to be recognized by the Philippines government 1st. That takes a longgggg time and a lot of money. 

39 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

 

But .. what is odd is as a foreigner you don't need to get the divorce recognized in the Philippines, you need only present the divorce decree when applying for the marriage license.    Seems not too long ago someone on this forum completed the marriage process doing just that.

A CENOMAR is required for all foreigners now. Mine shows my marriage from the 80s on it. Apparently it must have an annotation under it saying it's recognized by the PH government.

As I said we tried to get married in Manila recently. Spent many hours in City Hall waiting....filling out 4 copies of application for marriage license, making copies of IDs etc...returned the next day, took 2 seminars...then we sat down to have an interview with the head of the office..she went over the huge stack of papers including my divorce decree...and she said I need to get divorce recognized by the Philippines. My fiance started crying and I said only filipinos have to do that. Then she showed me the checklist indicating it's required for foreigners as well. 

Then I called Makati City Hall and asked civil registrar about it. Asked if my divorce decree will allow us to get a marriage license. She sad no, need recognition of divorce. Then called 2 other city halls and they all said the same thing. I also spoke with 5 or 6 attorneys, they all said I need it. 

Here is email from Laguna City Hall:

"Dear __________,
We will also require you to submit the same documents as Manila City 
Hall did. Even though you have been divorced from your previous 
marriage, the foreign judgment should be enforced here so that you can 
secure a copy of annotated certificate of marriage."

I'm currently living in the Philippines with her and prefer to stay here awhile longer before we go to the USA, that's why we aren't choosing fiance visa. 

13 minutes ago, givionte said:

You, the petitioner, and your spouse, the beneficiary, must submit evidence of all previous marriages.  If you were previously married, and don't provide evidence you are legally divorced, you will not be approved for a spousal visa.

I will provide it, no problem. My question is- for the spousal visa process, will having a certified marriage certificate from Thailand, my divorce decrees and all other required docs, be acceptable by the USCIS? 

Hi I'm an American who married a filipina over 3 decades ago and obtained a divorce from her many years ago. I met my current fiance 2 years ago and we tried toget married in Manila but we couldn't because my CENOMAR still shows that ancient marriage on it! I don't want to start the long and expensive recognition of foreign divorce procedure. 

Can we get married in Thailand, get certified Thai marriage certificate and process spousal visa? I don't think it's required to register the marriage in the Philippines unless she/we want to do it. We can't yet because of the ancient marriage. 

As I understand it for the I-130, we need marriage certificate, IDs, proof of a relationship etc... The USA and Thailand and the world acknowledges my divorce. ( except PH )