Cristel

9 minutes ago, kingdomcome84 said:

you previous thread you created you stated the consulate sent you a response after 1yr in AP:

 

Visa applications are adjudicated in accordance with the provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) and applicable federal regulations.  Your case has been denied under section 221(g) of the INA.  An application may be denied under section 221(g) of the INA when required or supporting documents are incomplete or while the consular officer verifies information submitted in support of an application.  Please be advised the completion time for this process may take 90 days and in some cases six months or longer. The Consulate is unable to issue a visa if the applicant’s visa application is still pending administrative processing. The consulate is also unable to waive or influence the amount of time that this processing may take. Please be assured that you will be contacted as soon as this process is complete..

 

Your case was denied. does the embassy still have your passports till this day?

Yes the embassy still have my passport until today.

4 hours ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

No reason for the change in terminology other than they just got around to changing it.   Your case has been in AP since your interview.   Until they complete their review there isn't much you can do.  AP has no timeline.   You can have the petitioner contact the local Senator or Congressman to see if they can get a more detailed response from the embassy but it won't speed up the process. 

 

As others have mentioned you have to be careful how you answer questions.   Even if you call someone your sister when asked in a setting like you were in he day of the interview you must answer what she really is (your cousin) not what you feel she is.   It may not have seemed like a big deal to you but in the eyes of he officers deciding your case it most likely raised even more red flags.   

Thanks for your clarification, I appreciate .

10 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

Telling the immigration official that your cousin is your sister (no matter what you call her she is NOT your sister) is misrepresentation.  If they already questioned your relationship you did not help that by lying to them.  

Okay. 

1 minute ago, Jorgedig said:

2 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Going forward, always tell the truth in all matters of immigration.

 

There has to be more to this story though, as it was a Stokes interview to begin with, so clearly they were already suspicious.

Why lied in the first place,  anyway thanks for your help. 

6 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

You had a Stokes interview, which means that the embassy already perceives something dodgy about your case.  And you lied about a familial relationship (that is how they see it), so there really is no way to speculate on the outcome of your AP.  Could be a lengthy process.

Thanks, It's really not fair that if they see it that way because on the day of the interview it's just a quick answer they stop you even if you going to details. But when they did called me after, I explained to the Officer my relationship with my sister, that she is my cousin but i called her sister. 

1 minute ago, Jorgedig said:

Sister and cousin are two different familial relationships.  Not the same.

In the term of words, yes agreed.... But I grow up calling her sister so automatically when I been asked i will said sister..... But all her documents was sent, so I don't see why must I lied about that. 

Lied for what,....?  She is my cousin but I am not used to called her cousin I called her sister and at the interview when they asked me a question I said my sister.  And she live in the big house with her kids, I have a separate entrance at the back of the house, so what is the lies, my mom and her mom's are sister's. 

Lied for what,....?  She is my cousin but I am not used to called her cousin I called her sister and at the interview when they asked me a question I said my sister.  

The day of my interview, I was asked I stay with who and I said with my sister and here two kids....  After my case was put on AP I was interviewed on the phone asking about my sister if she was my sister and we don't have same surnames, I said she is my cousin my mom and her mom are sister's and they asked me to send her ID, her marriage certificate and her kids birth certificates and her water bill that show her name and her husband on. 

On April 12,2018 i had my interview at the consulate of Johannesburg   and the visa was approved, but i received an email after a week that our application was subject to administrative processing...... On July 19 2018, we was asked to appear in front of the Cape Consulate at 1:30 pm for the dual interview. We were interviewed me and my wife the same day, my wife on the phone since she is in the United States. After the interview, I asked about the result. He told me ( the Officer) that he had just been contacted to do the interview, the decision will be made by the Johannesburg consulate. So since then we been in Administrative processing for year and for a year also so on ceac.state.gov when we check the status of our case it was just showing " *Your case is ready for interview* "  But recently on June 25th, 2019 it changed to administrative processing. I just wanna know if soon we will have a decision for our case?

3 minutes ago, geowrian said:

A visa must be approved or refused. Since the visa application did not meet the requirements to be approved due to additional processing being needed, it must be refused. But it's what's called a "soft" refusal - they will complete their processing then re-evaluate the application.

Thanks for your additional information, it gives us hope.

On 4/5/2019 at 9:21 AM, Muffinji said:

You don’t seem to get it yet. I’ll say it right to the point. Yes, you just explained it to us, we get it. 

 

However, you are not able to explain that to whoever interviewed both of you. So whoever interviewed you both will only know that they asked a question that should have been an obvious same answer but they got a different answer.

 

because let’s be honest, it’s rare that a couple at a wedding will not know who their spouse considers as ‘family’ and ‘not family’. 

 

We are trying to explain to you the issues / problems we are seeing with your case which might be causing the delay but if you insist that those aren’t issues to YOU instead of thinking in the viewpoint of those in charge, it’s not going to change anything. 

 

Note that yes, you can explain it to us here but we aren’t the ones making the decision and the ones making the decision are not privy to your explanations. 

 

Hopefully you get a reply back from them soon. I understand that the whole uncertainty of being nowhere is the worst thing to happen, but these things tend happen for a reason (most of the time). Good luck.

Hi,

I received this email today after writing to the consulate regarding our application pending for a year now, this what they responded " Visa applications are adjudicated in accordance with the provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) and applicable federal regulations.  Your case has been refused under section 221(g) of the INA.  An application may be refused under section 221(g) of the INA when required or supporting documents are incomplete or while the consular officer verifies information submitted in support of an application.  Please be advised the completion time for this process may take 90 days and in some cases six months or longer. The Consulate is unable to issue a visa if the applicant’s visa application is still pending administrative processing. The consulate is also unable to waive or influence the amount of time that this processing may take. Please be assured that you will be contacted as soon as this process is complete.. My question is why wait one year to let us know that the visa has been refused and why keep my passport for such long periods until now?.... There's still any hope, because now we are confused and don't know what to do, my wife even requests that that Lincoln Senator to try to see why our case it taking long but she didn't hear from her yet.... So we are lost we need help please. 

On 4/5/2019 at 9:39 AM, Cristel said:

 

I understand what you mean, but the consideration and understanding of the questions depends on the ability of the person, so she told me (my wife) that she thought it was about the blood family. As you said, I can explain now it will not change anything because the officer who interviewed us dealt with two different answers. We pray for the best and get approval soon. Thank you for your help 

Hi,

I received this email today after writing to the consulate regarding our application pending for a year now, this what they responded " Visa applications are adjudicated in accordance with the provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) and applicable federal regulations.  Your case has been refused under section 221(g) of the INA.  An application may be refused under section 221(g) of the INA when required or supporting documents are incomplete or while the consular officer verifies information submitted in support of an application.  Please be advised the completion time for this process may take 90 days and in some cases six months or longer. The Consulate is unable to issue a visa if the applicant’s visa application is still pending administrative processing. The consulate is also unable to waive or influence the amount of time that this processing may take. Please be assured that you will be contacted as soon as this process is complete.. My question is why wait one year to let us know that the visa has been refused and why keep my passport for such long periods until now?.... There's still any hope, because now we are confused and don't know what to do, my wife even requests that that Lincoln Senator to try to see why our case it taking long but she didn't hear from her yet.... So we are lost we need help please. 

6 minutes ago, Muffinji said:

You don’t seem to get it yet. I’ll say it right to the point. Yes, you just explained it to us, we get it. 

 

However, you are not able to explain that to whoever interviewed both of you. So whoever interviewed you both will only know that they asked a question that should have been an obvious same answer but they got a different answer.

 

because let’s be honest, it’s rare that a couple at a wedding will not know who their spouse considers as ‘family’ and ‘not family’. 

 

We are trying to explain to you the issues / problems we are seeing with your case which might be causing the delay but if you insist that those aren’t issues to YOU instead of thinking in the viewpoint of those in charge, it’s not going to change anything. 

 

Note that yes, you can explain it to us here but we aren’t the ones making the decision and the ones making the decision are not privy to your explanations. 

 

Hopefully you get a reply back from them soon. I understand that the whole uncertainty of being nowhere is the worst thing to happen, but these things tend happen for a reason (most of the time). Good 

17 minutes ago, Muffinji said:

You don’t seem to get it yet. I’ll say it right to the point. Yes, you just explained it to us, we get it. 

 

However, you are not able to explain that to whoever interviewed both of you. So whoever interviewed you both will only know that they asked a question that should have been an obvious same answer but they got a different answer.

 

because let’s be honest, it’s rare that a couple at a wedding will not know who their spouse considers as ‘family’ and ‘not family’. 

 

We are trying to explain to you the issues / problems we are seeing with your case which might be causing the delay but if you insist that those aren’t issues to YOU instead of thinking in the viewpoint of those in charge, it’s not going to change anything. 

 

Note that yes, you can explain it to us here but we aren’t the ones making the decision and the ones making the decision are not privy to your explanations. 

 

Hopefully you get a reply back from them soon. I understand that the whole uncertainty of being nowhere is the worst thing to happen, but these things tend happen for a reason (most of the time). Good luck.

I understand what you mean, but the consideration and understanding of the questions depends on the ability of the person, so she told me (my wife) that she thought it was about the blood family. As you said, I can explain now it will not change anything because the officer who interviewed us dealt with two different answers. We pray for the best and get approval soon. Thank you for your help 

4 minutes ago, Muffinji said:

I think this answer will be an issue.

 

How can you both be telling the truth if one said her sister(cousin) came when the she said none of her family was there? 

 

You may think it’s true / just different answers but this is not what the the officer will think.

 

the fact that you will need to explain to us why you are not lying or making up stories with that different answer is exactly why it sounds like a big problem to us.  

 

 

There's blood sister and extended families, and i think if she did said none because none of her biological family attended the marriage because of the cost of traveling, but her extended family (cousin) was there. That is why i said it was a true answer but in different ways 

On 4/3/2019 at 10:27 AM, Zaczon said:

This is not looking good.

7 months in AP and two interviews sounds like a big problem.

Were all your paperwork intact and why did you have to make up stories when you were both interviewed?

Meaning one of you was lying anyway.

Dont know what this is but sounds like a big problem.

We didn't make up stories, just we give different answers of what is true. All our paperwork was intact in order that is why i was not given a white or blue papers, i was given a Pamphlets of domestic violence in the United States. 

The first interview i was asked with who i live and i answered " with my sister and two kids. After a week instead of receiving a passport with a visa i received an email that my application was subject to AP, and a month or so i received a called from the consular asking me questions about my sister, why my surname and her surname differ my answer was because she is my cousin and by us we called sister and they asked me if i can send her documents (marriage certificate, birth certificate of her two kids and her water utility bills...) that was sent, and i also clarified that she live in the big house with her kids and i have my separate entrance at the back. I think that was their red flag....... But i proved my relationship with her so why is still taking long?

We are in AP now about a year now

We didn't make up stories, just we give different answers of what is true. All our paperwork was intact in order that is why i was not given a white or blue papers, i was given a Pamphlets of domestic violence in the United States. 

I am older, my wife 29 years and am 38 years old. We are really confused 

Thanks Maria! That is my hope too it's not an easy situation ti be in, but crossing fingers God will bless 👐

There was i think few questions that we answered differently.  Like what kind of gifts that she received at the wedding "I said African clothes and She said money ". There was any family members from her side who was at the wedding "I said her sister (cousin) and she said none. And I and my wife we are almost 10 years difference of ages, so i am not sure if those are red flags .

I am still under administrative processing. So stressful 😓

I am still under administrative processing processing. It's so stressful 😓

On April 12,2018 i had my interview at the consulate of Johannesburg and the visa was approved, but i received a letter after a week that our application was subject to administrative processing processing...... On July 19, 2018, we was asked to appear in front of the Cape Consulate at 1:30 pm for the dual interview. We were interviewed me and my wife the same day, my wife on the phone since she is in the United States. After the interview, I asked about the result. He told me that he had just been contacted to do the interview, the decision will be made by the Johannesburg consulate. So since then, seven months down we are still waiting and this process is very stressful. Can someone help?