Strider_Ranger

True. One can only hope but then there is this forum...

 

Thanks for the detailed answer! I understand now that it can really come down to the managers themselves. And I totally agree with you, better to walk out as a USC than waiting for a ceremony that I assume is not even very ceremonial nowadays because of Covid restrictions.

 

It's just sad this is not really a public info how it used to be some time ago, for example:

 

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Naturalization Ceremonies

The Denver Field Office conducts Judicial Ceremonies twice per month and Administrative Ceremonies every week. This office does conduct same-day naturalization ceremonies.

http://www.uscis.gov/about-us/find-uscis-office/field-offices/colorado-denver-field-office

 

 

You are absolutely right! The reason I brought this up because this trend might have just changed this week:

 

https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/citlist.php?cfl=0&op1=9&op2=d&op4=1&op5=&op6=All&op7=Boston MA

 

Also, see this comment: 

 

So I am trying to get more data on this.

 

It probably has been asked multiple times before but... is there any way to find out if an office does same day oaths? I am in particular interested about Boston, but this could be valuable information to others as well. For example, would they tell you this on the USCIS phone number if you can get hold of a human? Can you show up at the field office and ask them there? Any other ideas?

 

Thanks so much!

Hi VJ Community,

 

I've seen similar topics on the forum but not exactly this one - still hope it's not a duplicate one!

 

So my question is about filling out the N400 online and dealing with the blank fields. I know that on physical forms it is suggested to not leave fields blank and I see the same for online forms on the USCIS website: https://www.uscis.gov/file-online/tips-for-filing-forms-online:

 

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How to File a Form Online

 

Step 3: Complete all sections of your form.

 

We may reject your form if you leave a field blank or if you do not sign your form. Read the form instructions for information on completing fields when your answer is “zero” or “not applicable (N/A).”

 

Just like with the PDF edition, there are fields where the website does not allow certain characters to be entered. For example, for a non existing Middle Name, N/A would be appropriate, but the slash is not allowed. Entering None, however, would be incorrect and might even lead to a "John None Doe" situation. With the PDF, handwriting could solve this issue but you can't do that with the online form.

 

Does anyone have experience with this "issue"? How did you address it? Did you leave the fields blank or followed another strategy? Any input is greatly appreciated!

Does sound reassuring that most likely it is just general questions.

 

Thanks for sharing your experiences!

Thanks, both of you! Super helpful information.

Makes sense. They have to prove that they will be able to support their visit, and because of them being retired, it is harder to prove that than someone who is still employed.

 

I see. CBP besides overstay is also concerned about that a visitor doesn't become a burden on America financially. So even if they will be hosted by their family, they should still bring quite some money with them right? Should they bring bank statements? Maybe a house deed? Far as I know, they are actually doing pretty well with their retirement money.

6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Being retired suggests they are older and likely to be in need of having good Travel Insurance.

 

4 minutes ago, Dee elle said:

They will always need good medical travel Insurance... not because of their age, but because of the costs of medical  treatment in the US 

 

They  just need the addess at which they will be for at least the first night in the US.even if it is a hotel .. they do not need a letter from you.. they must be able to support their own visit.

 

We visited some times 3 or 4 times some years... we used VWP and ESTA...

Gotya. @Boiler, I took your comment first as you trying to say that they will be put back on a plane and at least with travel insurance they could get some of their money back.

 

Yes, they will have good travel insurance for sure. Is that something they should show at the border, as part of their proof that they can support themselves? Or just have it ready, in case they get questioned, similarly to the amount of money with them?

17 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Buy good Travel Insurance.

 

Just because they are retired? Should they have a letter with them signed by the family with contact information living in the States?

 

14 minutes ago, Dee elle said:

We visited regularly for 13 years before immigrating. Never any issues at POE  always return ticket, never overstayed, honest answer to why are you coming to the US.... visting our son and his family.

 

That sounds more reassuring. Yeah, no overstay in the past. Would you say you visited every year during those 13 years?

Hi VJ Forum,

 

What advice would you give to parents who are visiting their LPR and USC relatives (their son and his wife) on a visitor visa, to have no issues at POE?

 

They will obviously will have their return ticket (for 1 month), but what other documents could they have to show ties to their homeland? They did visit the States before a few times, but that was more than a decade ago (and they both were employed at that time).

 

Thanks for anything that comes into mind! Oh, and would they need to translate anything if they brought evidence with them?

Oh, I would not have thought that this could be good news! Anyone else with a similar ROC biometrics letter like mine? Or are you still getting CRI89 numbers as well? How about when you check your case status, what does it say: I-751 or CRI-89?

Thank you!

For example, mine only says for Case type: I751, and not I751 - CRI89. So not like on the example below (found on Google, from VJ). Any ideas?

 

Hi VJ Community,

 

Reading through many postings in the Removing Conditions sections I noticed that many of you mentioned that you received a new case number (CRI-89) with your biometrics letter, and that case number was used later on to update you on the process (instead of the I-751 case number). I just checked my biometrics letter, and it only lists my "old", I-751 case number, the one that I got in my I-751 NOA1. My biometrics letter shows this number at the top of the page (Application number box) and the bottom of the page, above the barcode. No other, different, CRI-89 case number.

So there is no information on my CRI-89 number, in fact when I put my I-751 case number to USCIS Case Status, it just returns as an I-751 update and does not mention anything about CRI-89. Is it possible to not receive this second case number? If you did get one, where exactly it is located on your biometrics letter? Should I give USCIS a call to obtain my number?

 

Thanks so much for your input, have a great weekend!

Hi VJ Community, I have a few documents that I think I will be sending along with my package. Do you think they make sense, are they helpful? Thanks so much!

 

 

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Letter signed by LPR and USC to treat LPR as US Resident instead of nonresident alien for tax purposes to able to file married jointly.

• Nonresident Spouse Treated as a Resident: Printout from the Internal Revenue Service website explaining this election 

 

 

Is this tax information necessary for them at all? In addition, our original signed letter does not have a date on it, we just filled out the paper our accountant asked us to 2 years ago. 

 

 

 

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Life Insurance Company of LPR

• Copy of Enrollment form listing USC as sole beneficiary

 

 It's a signed enrollment form, at the start of the policy. There is no recent document for them. Could that be a problem?

 

 

 

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Our current residence is an apartment provided by LPR’s employer. The rent is subtracted from LPR’s monthly paycheck. Attached are the two paychecks that show LPR’s employer is charging us for the apartment after moving here. The rent includes utilities so we do not have any utility bills.

• LPR’s December, 2017 Paycheck
• LPR’s November, 2017 Paycheck

Our previous residence was at the parents of USC. Father and mother, USC’s parents, paid the utilities and accordingly we did not have any utility bills.

• A letter written by father on MM-DD-YYYY to show we were allowed to stay with him after moving to the United States.
• A letter signed by father on MM-DD-YYYY stating the time period that we lived in his home.

 

Do these documents explain our situation well enough to not to get an RFE for not having for example utility/rent bills?

Hi VJ Community,

 

I am posting my cover letter that I am planning to send out soon with my I-751. I hope that some of you will find it useful and I am also happy to receive any suggestions! I'm in particular interested in your input for the following documents:

 

• Exhibit 4, Letter to the IRS and printout from IRS website: Is this tax information necessary for them at all? In addition, our original signed letter does not have a date on it, we just filled out the paper our accountant asked us to 2 years ago.
• Exhibit 9, Life Insurance: It's a signed enrollment form, at the start of the policy. There is no recent document for them. Could that be a problem?
• Exhibit 12, Housing information: Do these documents explain our situation well enough to not to get an RFE for not having for example utility/rent bills?

 

Thank you!

 

 

 

Letter to be sent:

 

 

[MM-DD-YYYY]

 

United States Department of Homeland Security

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services

[Address]

 

Joint Petition to Remove Conditions of Permanent Residence Status

 

U.S. Citizen Spouse:

[Name of USC]

DOB: MM/DD/YYYY

SSN: 123-45-6789

 

Conditional Resident Spouse:

[Name of LPR]

DOB: MM/DD/YYYY

SSN: 987-65-4321

 

Dear USCIS examiner:

 

[Brief letter explaining our last few years]

 

Please note that many of these documents are double sided, including photocopies of IDs. Some documents include USC’s middle name, while other’s not.

 

Sincerely,

USC and LPR

[Address]

[Phone]

 

 

 

Table of Contents

 

·       Exhibit 1: Form I-751

o   Original [Bank name] Personal Check, in the amount of $680.00 for payment of the I-751 Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence + Biometric fee

o   Copy of USCIS Form I-551: Permanent Resident Card (front and back)

o   Original Form I-751 filled and signed by LPR and USC

 

·       Exhibit 2: Marriage Certificate

o   Copy of Certificate of Marriage issued in [City, State].

o   Copy of Extract from the Register of Marriages issued in LPR’s home country showing that our marriage is registered in LPR’s home country

 

·       Exhibit 3: Driver’s Licenses

o   Copies of Massachusetts Driver’s License for LPR and USC showing current joint residence at [Address]

o   Copies of Massachusetts Driver’s License for LPR and USC showing previous joint residence at [Address]

 

·       Exhibit 4: Internal Revenue Service Transcripts: Married Filing Joint

o   Copy of Tax Return Transcript for tax year 2016

o   Copy of Account Transcript for tax year 2016

o   Copy of Tax Return Transcript for tax year 2015

o   Copy of Account Transcript for tax year 2015

o   Letter signed by LPR and USC to treat LPR as US Resident instead of nonresident alien for tax purposes to able to file married jointly.

§  Nonresident Spouse Treated as a Resident: Printout from the Internal Revenue Service website explaining this election 

·       Exhibit 5: Joint checking accounts: [Bank name] (account number: 0000000000) and [Bank name] (account number: 9999999999)

o   Copies of checks from joint savings account at [Bank name] and [Bank name] showing current [Address] and previous [Address] residence

§  Copies of each monthly bank account statements for account at [Bank name]. Starting with the statement for the latest billing cycle (MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY) going back to the first billing cycle after our marriage (MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY).

§  Copies of each monthly bank account statement for account at Bank name]. Starting with the statement for the latest billing cycle (MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY) going back to the first billing cycle after our marriage (MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY).

 

·       Exhibit 6: Joint credit card accounts at [Bank name], account numbers:1111 1111 1111 1111 and 2222 2222 2222 2222

o   Copies of Credit Cards showing our names for the same joint credit account number: 1111 1111 1111 1111

§  Copies of letters addressed to LPR and USC showing that USC was added to LPRs credit card account (account number ending: 1111).

§  Copies of each monthly account statement for joint credit account number ending: 1111. Starting with the statement for the latest billing cycle (MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY) going back to when USC was added to the account (MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY).

o   Copies of Credit Cards showing our names for the same joint credit account number: 2222 2222 2222 2222

§  Copies of letters addressed to LPR and USC showing that they successfully applied for credit at [Bank name] and that LPR is a co-applicant for the joint credit card account ending in 2222.

§  Copies of each monthly account statement for joint credit account number ending: 2222. Starting with the statement for the latest billing cycle (MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY) going back to the start of the account (MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY).

 

·       Exhibit 7: Joint ownership of our [Car type] car (Vehicle Identification Number (VIN): ABCDEF1234567890)

o   Copy of Title showing joint ownership for our car.

o   Copy of Registration for our car showing joint ownership.

o   Copy of Purchase Contract listing LPR as purchaser and USC as co-purchaser for our car.

o   Copy of Application Form showing joint ownership for our car.

o   Copy of Insurance Card for our car listing LPR and USC jointly as insured.

o   Copy of Auto Coverage addressed to LPR and USC jointly insured on our car for [Address] (current) residence for coverage period MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY.

o   Copy of Auto Coverage addressed to LPR and USC jointly insured on our car for [Address] (previous) residence for coverage period MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY.

o   Copy of Auto Coverage addressed to LPR and USC jointly insured on our car for [Address]  (previous) residence for coverage period MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY.

o   Copies of each Insurance Premium Statements for our car from latest billing cycle (Issue date: MM-DD-YYYY) to start of insurance (Issue date: MM-DD-YYYY). Please note that these statements are not issued on a monthly basis.

 

·       Exhibit 8: Joint Healthcare and Dental plans

o   Copy of joint [Health Insurer name] Insurance cards showing same Group number (1234567890) and ID number (9876543210).

§  Evidence of coverage letter for LPR

§  Evidence of coverage letter for USC

o   Copy of joint [Dental Insurer name] cards

§  Letter from [Dental Insurer name] showing LPR and USC on the same plan

§  Printout from the [Dental Insurer name]’s website showing LPR as subscriber and USC as spouse

 

·       Exhibit 9: Retirement Plans and Life Insurance plan listing each others as primary beneficiary

o   [401k Company]: Retirement investments of LPR

§  Copy of Confirmation of beneficiary designations for [401k Company] account numbers 1234567 and 7654321 listing USC as primary beneficiary

o   [401k Company]: Annuity savings account of USC

§  Printout from [401k Company] website showing LPR as sole beneficiary

§  Copy of 2016 Statement of Annuity Savings Account listing LPR as sole beneficiary

o   [Life Insurance Company] of LPR

§  Copy of Enrollment form listing USC as sole beneficiary

 

·       Exhibit 10: Last Wills and Power of Attorney documents listing each others as primary beneficiary/agent

o   Copy of Last Will of USC listing LPR as primary beneficiary

o   Copy of Last Will of LPR listing USC as primary beneficiary

o   Copy of Power of Attorney of USC listing LPR as her agent

o   Copy of Power of Attorney of LPR listing USC as his agent

o   Health Care Proxy of USC listing LPR as her Health Care Agent

o   Health Care Proxy of USC listing LPR as his Health Care Agent

 

·       Exhibit 11: Joint Travel Receipts

o   Travel from [City] to [City] and back: MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY

§  Copies of [Airline company] Travel and Billing Information. These tickets have been booked separately to get better price quote, but LPR and USC’s seats are next to each other. Please note that this travel is for a future travel date in order to attend a friend’s wedding.

·       USC reservation confirmation number: ABC123

·       LPR reservation confirmation number: DEF456

o   Travel from [City] to [City] and back: MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY

§  Copy of [Airline company] Booking Details listing both of LPR and USC on the same reservation – booking reference: GHI789

§  Boarding passes

o   Travel from [City] to [City] and back: MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY

§  Copy of [Airline company] Booking Confirmation listing both of LPR and USC on the same reservation – booking reference: JKL123

§  Copy of each boarding pass

o   Travel from [City] to [City] and back: MM-DD-YYYY – MM-DD-YYYY

§  Copy of [Airline company]  Booking Confirmation listing both of LPR and USC on the same reservation – booking reference: MNO456

§  Copy of each boarding pass

o   Travel from [City] to [City]: MM-DD-YYYY

§  Copy of [Airline company]  Invoice and Confirmation listing both of LPR and USC on the same reservation – booking reference: PQR789. Please note that these documents list dates in DD-MM-YYY format

§  Copy of each boarding pass

 

·       Exhibit 12: Housing information

o   Our current residence (in [City]) is an apartment provided by LPR’s employer. The rent is subtracted from LPR’s monthly paycheck. Attached are the two paychecks that show LPR’s employer is charging us for the apartment after moving here. The rent includes utilities so we do not have any utility bills.

§  LPR’s December, 2017 Paycheck from [Employer]

§  LPR’s November, 2017 Paycheck from [Employer]

o   Our previous residence (in [City]) was at the parents of USC. [Name of father] and [Name of mother], USC’s parents, paid the utilities and accordingly we did not have any utility bills.

§  A letter written by [Name of father] on MM-DD-YYYY to show we were allowed to stay with him after moving to the United States from [Country]

§  A letter signed by [Name of father] on MM-DD-YYYY stating the time period that we lived in his home.

 

·       Exhibit 13: Cards and letters written to both us at current ([City]) and previous ([City]) residence

o   Copy of invitation from [Friend’s name] and [Friend’s name] inviting both of us to their wedding.

o   Copies of [Institution] “Thank You” letters and [Fund] document listing us as donors under “[Name of category].”

o   Copies of envelopes addressed to both of us from friends and family.

 

·       Exhibit 14: Joint Membership at the [Name of Gym]

o   Copy of Good Standing Letter from [Manager of Gym]

 

·       Exhibit 15: Copies of photos of us together at various events with family and friends or just the two of us going back to our marriage