CadillacGirl_1966

Thing is he really didnt have much contact in dublin with the PoE. Guy just took his passport and ran it and called another guy over and they told him he had to go to the embassy and they wouldnt let him in. They didnt even ask him any questions. He thinks its because his flight out of LA to china wasnt showing up so it looked like he had a one way flight in. He has no criminal record or anything like that. We are still stumped and probably always will be.

Now I'm very nervous to tell the folks at the british border he's my fiance. I know I'm not the first to be visiting my fiance but they always gave me a hard time at the border there when I used to visit and he was only my boyfriend then. What can I bring to make them see I'm not staying? My main concern actually even more than that is because I have to put down "internet model" that they think I'm going to be working. Honestly I think that was the whole reason they used to give me a hard time. The last time I was there they almost didnt let me in! If they kept me from going in I don't know what we'd do!

Yes I work on several sites. I do texting with 2 different companies, clip sales with two others... camming with just one but I also do independent camming where I use a payment processor to take money directly through their service. All different companies. I dont really sell physical items or at least I havent this past year and I dont really want to include my Mistress website or Mistress name on the form because I feel like they're already going to be discriminatory enough. I dont do live sessions anymore either, and I dont want them thinking I am doing illegal stuff. I am getting ready to get into hypno videos this year which is a huge seller. My friend makes 6 grand a month just selling those. If I can get in on that I can definitely show them I have enough income. I will check SW for sure. I didnt even think of it as a possible source of help but it seems like a no brainer now lol

Whoah yeah actually I am haha... SW is my go to for a lot of things. I'll do whatever I have to to get this done. I have been with my studio for nearly 10 years. I can get a letter of employment from them and stuff too if I need it. I know technically I am an independent contractor but I suppose it wouldnt hurt. I will definitely have income above the poverty line but it is income I dont just make with my main website. I work all sorts of places and angles (all legal obviously) so on the i-129f where it says employment do I have to list all of them? 

Thanks. Yeah I will do that. I'll just pay the whole tax. And I plan on making a lot next year as well so I can show them I am making good money. I just didnt really have the motivation until the end of this year to start making serious money. I hope they wont deny me just because of that. I mean 2017 I will clearly have made over the requirement

Ok that makes me feel better. Especially since my parents said no lol... So basically I'll just work and make as much money as possible from now until then so I can show them. It's gonna be a long year lol

Hey guys so I'm going through everything and I'm currently looking at the financial requirements for sponsoring my british fiance. I know I dont really have to worry about this until later, but I've dug out my tax returns for the last few years and it isnt looking good. 2016 my adjusted gross income was just 13,000! Terrible. The year before that was a little better at 18k but still not good enough. I've worked all night to figure out my income for this year and it just breaks 25k before any credits or adjustments. Is this going to be enough? Should I get a co sponsor? The way my job is I can basically make as much money as I want to, really not sure what happened in 2016 but I thought I made a lot more than that. If I make a lot in the new year, can I bring bank statements to show that? I imagine we wont need the financial proof until later next year. We plan on filing the first step at the end of february. 

Yes we have. But we were not together for 5 of those years.  Wont they ask what happened in between that time? For us, when we reconnected, yeah we had a few things we needed to talk about.. but essentially it was like starting right where we'd left off. Together we have always been really intense and now is no exception except to say that it's even better now than it's ever been. One of the reasons we split up before was because he was separated from his wife but not legally divorced and he just didnt see a future for us so many miles away. His divorce was finalized in 2015 so now he is free to marry. He's twice divorced though, so we will have to get the decrees from both. As I said... uphill battle lol

oh I see it now. You know since this has happened I've been running around like a chicken with its head cut off trying to figure this out so missing your question wasnt on purpose. I didnt ignore it. 

Yes he has checked his esta status over and over again. No change. Someone had posted somewhere about reapplying after 10 days but if the situation had not changed it probably wouldnt go though. His friend suggested he try getting another passport and applying then, but I dont think that is a very good idea at all.

We looked into several options. With the CR-1 we'd have to get married first and I would have to either get a marriage visitor's visa to the UK which I'm told is difficult (and I would have to wait months and visit twice to get) or get married in mexico which would cost us quite a lot. The CR-1 was attractive to us because we didnt want to have to wait for him to be able to work/leave the country after getting married. I was not aware until yesterday that he could apply for an EAD and advance parole. Since he is a musician his livlihood depends on him being able to tour europe and play shows. But if we had to he could just work in the US until we get AOS for him.

So after going back and forth about our options for quite a few days now we've settled on the K1 because I'd like to have a nice, unrushed wedding that my family can come to. It may take longer in the long run but we really just want to be together in any way we can. I know it's going to be tough with the details. We were together from 2009-2012 and then split up. We will have to explain that.. and why we got engaged so quickly after reconnecting after only 3 weeks. We will have to explain the age gap (he's 26 years older than me). We have a huge uphill battle. I came here to get help and answers. I've never done this before so its a huge learning curve. 

He's still going to fill out the redress form for the esta thing. We dont expect a response. 

What questions have I ignored? 

ewww yikes, need chest x rays and blood tests? whats all that about? do they take care of all that for you? 

No they literally refused him in dublin (where they do the immigration) and said he needed to talk to the london embassy. I made another post in a different forum about this. His status was changed to "not authorized to travel" or something. We have no idea why, he has no criminal record.

Anyway how would we get married in mexico? Everywhere I looked had a resident requirement. I didnt look at mexico though. 

Just to add to this, it seems as though in order to meet the requirement of giving notice to marry, I have to make 2 trips to the UK, one so I can be there for at least 7 days and make the notification, the other to actually marry. So do I first visi, stay 7 days, make the notification, leave and apply for the marriage visitors visa, then wait 3 months to fly there and get married? The government site I was on said you needed to wait 3 months but that most visa's were approved in about 4 weeks. Do I HAVE to get married right after the 3 months is up, or do I have a certain amount of time the marriage visitors visa is valid for? I'm so confused. 

So I've been doing a lot of research on this website and others about the options my fiance and I have. We want him to eventually come to the US and live here with me. I've been looking at the comparison of the K1 vs. the CR-1 and due to what he does for a living (being a musician) he really can't wait to work in the US for the adjustment of status. So we discussed getting married in the UK instead and filing for the CR-1. But I have a few hangups on that. We don't plan on having a big wedding there. We want to get it done as soon as possible, so where would we go? How much notice do we have to give the registry office? If we don't have any solid booked wedding plans (the government site says I have to apply for this visa 3 months before I plan to travel) what kind of evidence can we give that proves we plan to get married?

When I am in the UK, if we are staying at his mother's house (where he lives and takes care of her as she is elderly), do I still have to provide proof that I can book a hotel for the time I am there? How much money should I have in my bank account when I apply, or does regular deposits into my bank account count as proof of ability to pay for my trip? I dont have pay slips, I get direct deposits. How can I prove I dont plan to work in the UK if I work online? 

The whole process is so confusing to me. Regardless of which way we choose it's going to separate us for a while as his ESTA was taken from him when he tried to come visit me for christmas and now he cannot visit me in the states. I just want to choose the right pathway for us that will make it the easiest all things considered. 

The P1 was already expired when he went to come back into the states. It was only for that one time he was here in september.

I will have to go visit now that  his ESTA was taken away. We probably wont get a B2 and I really dont want to bother applying and then being denied. Thing is, what do I tell the british boarder? If I tell them I am coming to visit my fiance, are they going to freak out? 

Our plan for february is for me to come visit for like a week. I would fly into manchester and we would stay in a hotel a couple of nights. Then he wants us to go see his friends in amsterdam and stay with them like the rest of the time. Are they gonna give me a problem if I have a flight out of there instead of out of manchester back home? Should I come back on the ferry to fly out of manchester? Will they give me a problem on the ferry going over to another country while I'm there? I know the laws are changing fast and I havent been over there since 2011...

Well when he was here in september he had a work visa, a P1. Before when he was staying at 90 day stretches he would obviously have made money before he left.  Otherwise I'm assuming they wouldnt have let him in. Honestly I think you are righ about the travel patterns. They probably just want him to get a regular B2. He's freaking out about it though, he's very sad because of the timing. I'm trying to be strong about it but it's hard. I am going to get together everything I can in order to file the K1 as soon as I get back from visiting him in febuary. We want to be able to spend next christmas together here. I'm getting a printer/scanner just to make things easier. I hope the process will go smoothly as we have decided not to go the lawyer route now. It puts a lot less pressure on us financially as the one we had wanted $5500 to help us with the k1!

The plan now is I go to see him in february for a couple weeks. We will make sure we same everything like boarding pass and reciepts and take lots of pics to be able to fulfill the proof of relationship requirement. But we have all that from last time he was here except I dont think he saved his boarding pass. We have pics and videos and all that... even my friend filmed the proposal which was just supposed to be a video of our reunion but turned into a proposal vid. We have plenty of proof we are real... Am I able to sponsor him? Thats another question. We'll see.. I hope you guys are right. I just dont want the esta to have been taken for a reason that will hurt us later on ya know?

9 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

OP: He was directly told his ESTA was revoked? What I'm saying to you is... an ESTA is a pre-clearance background check. He can't get on a plane without having one in working order... so it was working when he got onto the plane and flew. The question that's not so clear is what happened at the POE? There's a difference in an ESTA being revoked and having VWP revoked. That would happen based on his interaction with the officer at the POE, what was discussed, what he said, and what evidence he brought with him. I'm not saying he did anything the matter, just that is there any clarification here as to what exactly was revoked (often times people conflate the two things as being the same). It does seem like this time he may have done his trips a little too close together perhaps.

 

Your chances of visiting him are just the same as any other. You can visit him provided you can prove you will return back home. You also have the option of visiting him in any other third party country with the same ease. You can do a fiancé or spousal visa, or if you have enough financial stability on his side of things, he could petition for you to join him aswell. Him being denied at the border will not affect the filing of those visas -- I do not think a B2 will be remotely successful at this stage. A lawyer is not required (though I'd encourage it if you chose to live in the UK route).

Thanks for the advice. There is no way I would live in the UK though. I have too much here to pack up everything and move there. I am not sure exactly about the wording. He was kind of in a daze when they refused him. They turned him away at dublin international. H ehad a flight out of the US by the way to china, where he is doing some shows in january. Could that have been it? That he didnt have a flight directly back to the uk, bt instead out to china? Is it a computer that does that or is it a literal person looking at a file?

Yeah like I said I dont want to go the B2 route. As much as I would love to see him for like a month before we have to go through this K1 stuff, I dont think it will be successful either. He has a ton of shows in europe in april and may, though, so he could have used those to show he wouldnt be staying in the us but whatever. I dont really want to take a chance on it. Someone somewhere else mentioned waiting 10 days and reapplying for an ESTA. Would it hurt him if he tried that? 

He didnt mention anything about his interaction with the officer in dublin. They do the immigration stuff there I guess? As I mentioned he said he was just so floored by it he walked off in a daze almost forgetting his camera bag he had with him. Maybe he called me his fiance? I dont know I'll have to ask him. Another lawyer we talked to said his esta would not be revoked due to our engagement unless someone physically told them, which is quite possible because he has a couple of crazy ex's/stalkers who have threatened that exact thing (reporting him for things that are untrue but I'm under the impression that immigration doesnt care)

Honestly I'm not even sure he had any "evidence" with him. He's just so used to being able to go in and out basically as he pleases. But the laws are changing so rapidly.. I honestly wouldnt put it past him to have not brought anything. He's asleep now so I cant really ask him until later. My impression though is that the esta was revoked. He got an eail not long after he was refused that the 'status of you esta has changed'

Well I wanted to hire one so we would have less chance of being denied. I've never done this before. I mean I guess I could just do more research but I dunno, I guess I never thought about going it alone for the K1. I just assumed it was something you should have a lawyer for, especially with our circumstances now. I guess I'll talk to him about it. It would lift a heavy burden from us though. Everything is so daunting right now. 

I realy really really want to try and find out what happened with the ESTA. It would ease both our minds a lot to know what the problem was

Ok so it's been a very crazy, heartbreaking, depressing week. Sorry I havent replied to you guys yet. First of all I clearly havent closed my account, and thi is the only thread I have ever posted on here so I'm not sure what you're talking about milimelo...

My fiance and I are absolutely devastated that this has happened. It has totally ruined our christmas. That being said we have done a lot of talking and trying to figure out our options. We went back and forth with a few things: getting married outside the country and me coming back and filing, applying for the k1 straight away and waiting for that, or trying for a B2. Everything I have read about the b2 though seems to point to the fact that it will be very hard for him to have one granted seeing as I am now his fiance. I dont want to not tell them this because I feel like it would comeback to bite us in the ###. But how am I supposed to visit with him if they wont let us be together? If I go visit him there, and tell them I'm there to visit my fiance, they may not let me in. So I feel like we are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Without knowing why his ESTA was revoked (like 24 hours before he was due to fly) how are we supposed to fix the problem? He wants to do the redress thing, and see if he can find out. The lawyer wants $2500 to help us with a B2 that we are not even guaranteed and we just dont have that kind of money right now. To answer a few questions:

1) He only entered the US one time this year and that was in september. He had a P1 work visa to do some shows on a small tour he did. Then he left the country to do a show in Peru. When he was in peru he renewed his ESTA because it was going to expire. He entered back into the country just fine to see me and stayed till october 11th and left. Then he got a flight to see me again for the holidays and thats it. That's all the traveling here he has done. Except he didnt make it here for the holidays. Before hand though, about a year or so ago, he had another gf and he would come in and stay 90 days at a stretch and then leave to 90 days and come back. So I think he did that for a couple years actually. I dont know if they look that far back? He was always legal though and never overstayed, never worked without a work visa. He has no criminal record whatsoever.

2) We did talk about getting married right away outside the country but the lawyer we talked to said something about an I-130 visa, never mentioned anything about a CR and I dont know what that is. The reason we decided against doing it that way was because the processing time is much longer and he cant enter the country really while its processing. I cant go without seeing him for that long. That governments keep people apart like this is completely unfair.. Even if I went to see him it would be maybe every few months and maybe 2 weeks at a time but it would cost me a fortune because I have to board my dog and flights and hotels etc.

3) I cant find a contact number for the embassy. We cant figure out how to get hold of them. Everyone is saying we must have an appointment but we decided against going for the B2 and we cant afford 5500 dollars right now to pay the lawyer to help us with the K1. Everything else I have read basically says we wont be able to find out why the esta was revoked but why would they do that? How can they expect us to fix the issue if we dont know what the issue is? Before I drop a bunch of money to get the ball rolling on this I would like to know what the problem is so we dont run into future problems.

Honestly, we just want to get this over with. As it is we will have to wait many months for the k1 to go through. Another reason we want to do the K1 is because he didnt want to rush our wedding. He wants it to be a special day for me and we cant plan it all quick and wham bam thank you man, you know? He was also upset because if we did it that way my parents wouldnt be able to be there. I tend to agree with him, I'd kind of like to have a nice wedding. As it is with the k1 we would have to go get legally married within the 90 days but he has 180 days to enter before the 90 days begins doesnt he? I may not be able to plan a nice wedding in 90 days but I could probably do it in 180. 

He's terrified he'll never be able to see me again. I know thats not true but it is going to be a big pain in the butt... a lot of money a lot of waiting and frustration. He doesnt want to apply for the B2 because we are engaged and thinks they will just deny him and we will have spent all that money on a lawyer for nothing. I dont think we can go it alone on something like that, especially not knowing why the esta was revoked and being engaged.. I am in agreeance on that but as I said we dont really have 2500 to spend on that with the possibility of being denied. Then it looks bad on his record. I dont know.. I'm so frustrated and scared myself to be quite honest. 

Hi everyone so this is my first post. My fiance and I were looking to file for the K1 soon, but he was coming over here  to visit for christmas. A few days ago, everything was fine. Last night he missed his flight to dublin from manchester because of weather so he had to stay the night in dublin and get a flight to LAX the next morning. He goes in to the immigration in dublin and they deny him... They tell him his ESTA has been revoked and to go to the US embassy in london. They would not tell him why.. 

We dont know what to do. In order to go to the embassy he has to have an appointment and he cant get one unless he applies for a visa? But some people are telling us if he applies for a regular visitors visa and gets denied that itll go on his record and look bad. Yeah, we did get engaged back in september.. But we had no intentions of circumventing the system. We were going to soon file for the K1 as soon as I could get the money together. We did want to consult an immigration lawyer first to see how to go about doing that.

There are several things at play that could have affected this, but again we dont know why and they wont tell him anything. I work as a webcam model online so basically I am a sex worker, but nothing I do is illegal and I have never been associated with anything illegal. Neither of us have criminal records. He has a long history of coming to the US for decades and he has never had a problem. He can prove that he has no intentions of just staying as his livelihood depends on him travelling around the world doing shows (he is a musician). He does have a lot of enemies that would love to hurt him in any way they can so we don't know if someone has reported him or me for something but we have not done anything wrong. I am so utterly devastated as now he will not be here for christmas and I worry he's not going to be able to come back. I am going to contact a lawyer tomorrow but I wanted to post here and maybe get some opinions. Any info is greatly appreciated, I wasnt sure where on the forum to post this so admins please move it if necessary.