Desertrose9

On 8/25/2017 at 5:30 PM, Boiler said:

Begs the question how would he immigrate to India.

What do u mean how hes already got the visa twice when we met.. usually they give a month visa at the most but he wants to stay there

On 8/25/2017 at 4:15 PM, Ebunoluwa said:

It would definitely help if his family  could attend the wedding in India. Write an attachment of the reason why he moved to India
to have the wedding in your relationship timeline letter.
It is not considered evidence for a relationship/marriage to have a child together. I advice against it for 2 reasons:
First and foremost, he as the father will miss a lot of baby's "firsts", supporting his pregnant wife, being there for the birth etc.
It can take much longer because even if he is not in a MENA country he can still be put in long AP time for security checks
and background checks because he is from Pakistan.
Many couples who get pregnant have a 2 year old child that Mom raised alone and being totally overwhelmed because Dad couldn't join yet
and is still stuck in the process.
Another reason is they could request DNA testing which costs (about $800 and added months delays) to make sure the child is his.
Third reason, the adjustment upheaval for him to move here will be hard enough without throwing a child in the mix in my opinion.
I would settle as a couple here when the time comes, let him become stable with a job and income, adjusted, growing your 
relationship together, then plan for a child. All this is very, very stressful and you won't realize this until you are at each phase.
That is a very personal decision though and it is just what I would do, not everyone would agree.
Other than that, yes, wedding in India with his family in attendance would be fine. It will not speed up the process neither
hold it up in itself and if you are both safer there then that is a good reason.

 

Okay and he's from Afghanistan not pakistan,  

Just now, Desertrose9 said:

Okay and he's from Afghanistan not pakistan,  

His parenrs cant come 

On 8/21/2017 at 3:21 PM, Ebunoluwa said:

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You really don't need to pay a lawyer to put a stamp on it and mail it off several thousand dollars, you can get help here
anytime you get stuck with a question. It does require some hours of research and an understanding of the process from start to end.
You still have to gather all the info and data needed, your lawyer will not do that and only fill out the forms.
I read many times where lawyers have messed up the petition and made everything worse with delays and
losing RFE's etc. and people had to start again on their own.

I would go there and marry, get all signatures needed and come back and assemble a good quality package with evidence
taking my time and send it off from here, then visit again during the wait and be present on the premises during the interview.
I am not familiar with sending anything from Kabul to the states and the risks so I let your regional members advise you on that part.
As I said it would be good evidence to live there for some months and include such evidence before mailing the petition off and then again
submit the evidence before the interview.

 

Yes thanks appreciate that, we have some recent and sudden change of plans my fiance wants to leave kabul hes had recent threats and his life is in danger.. he wants to move to india, i believe its gonna be easier as well to get marrried there since india is not a MENA country etc. ill do that live with him a few months gather all eveidence come back and file then when its his interview ill go back.. what do u think? Will he run into problems for example of the co keeps interrogating why he left kabul, and stuff? Making it difficult also the best evidence is if i get preganant (this time) before i leave back to the states 

On 8/21/2017 at 3:35 PM, Amhara said:

Yeah, if you have someone in the States send off your petition for you, I really don't see how you would include the evidence.  If you are using an Afgan nikah, you may need to get it notarized by the US embassy to use it outside of Kabul, so you would need to send a copy of that at least.  You would need to post date your signature.

 

I think your intention is to get the petition approved while you are still there waiting for him so that you do not need to come back to the States and you could both come back together.  If you do that, you may be in for a long haul.  The I-130 could take 7+ months to get approved, then another 4-7 weeks for the petition to get sent to Kabul, then another month or so to get an interview and an untold amount of time in AP.

 

If your intention is not to wait in AFG while you are waiting for your petition to get approved, then I do not see the need to file the petition while you are still in AFG.  Especially if you will only stay a month - you are only saving a month of time and that could also be a red flag, which may have been the problem with the first petition of filing very, very soon in the relationship.

Yah i hear you thats true i was thibking to stay longer than a month.. anyhow in short notice i think out plans ate going to change he decided to live in India, because of job opportunity and his life is in danger in Kabul he had several threats recently so wer planning to get married from india.. what do u guys think?

2 hours ago, Amhara said:

It's difficult to file from Kabul.  Your petition must have an original signature on the I-130 and it then must be sent to USCIS.  Sending anything out of Kabul is really expensive, so plan for that - you may be able to find a DHS or FedEx service that ships internationally.

Do you think its really worth to spend all that money on a lawyer with the last lawyer my case go denied but i was thinking if i hire a lawyer this way i sign the 1-130 leave it in his office then give him the go when im in  kabul  or i can get my friend i that i trust hes helped people with marrriage petitions before 

12 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Make sure the parents contribute if they otherwise would have contributed had he married someone there, sometimes everyone looks to

the USC to carry the whole expense because they think our money grows on trees.

Yes so true! Gosh anyway, im contemplating whether to get a lawyer or not again, i really dont have the financial means but i also want to make sure all the paperwork is done correctly etc,i know you said before I dont. Need  a lawyer, but if im gonna be filing from kabul i dont want to miss something or i dont know how is the process is it that difficult 

Unfortunately We dont have the fiananial means to have a good or big size wedding we have no choice but to do a traditional or small ceremony with a lot of his family memebers.. 

On 8/10/2017 at 3:31 PM, Ebunoluwa said:

Yes, build and grow the relationship, gather evidence, then file. Your fiance would know how to get a lease or get an affidavit from his parents stating
they approve of your relationship and that you live with them temporarily. Excellent evidence.

Thats true but in kabul theres no lease, like in the US , he lives in a small mud house which belongs to his aunt and i believe they pay rent.. he wouldnt know how to get an affidavit from his parents how do you think he should do it?

21 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

You said you want to live there for a while and file from there. You would have to live somewhere, as in an apartment perhaps so a lease with
both of your names on it would be good.
He should have a bank account with your name on it as a joint account, I am aware it wouldn't work on your bank account in the US.
If he owns a little piece of land or a car then put that in both names.
I am talking about in his country because it sounded like you want to stay there and file from there.
I am trying to help you so take it easy.
Yes, obviously you are in a hurry and as I keep saying that is not in your favor.
Everyone here wants to be together, no one wants to be apart, so move there temporarily until approved and have good evidence
for the embassy by living together.
If it is hurting your relationship then re evaluate why that is and make changes to improve that, it should strengthen it with fresh
commitment, not hurt it. Hurrying is not the answer. Endurance and evidence is. He doesnt own land or a car, any other sugggestions ?

 

Ok sorry and thanks for the info on that.youre  right i shouldnt rush- so ill be staying with his parents i dont know how i could get a lease from that or something?

.s so lets say i live there for a few months  and still apply from there i should still wait after building those relationships etc for the firsft few months then apply?

On 8/5/2017 at 10:03 PM, Ebunoluwa said:

 

 Joint bank account? Lease? Waht r u talking about lol we are both broke the only way i can make a joint account under my chase is to provide proof of his id and he would have to physically be here in new york i dont know how i could do those suggestions if hes 8000 miles away

and obviously im in a hurry we are love and the distance is really hurting our relationship we want to be together finally 

16 hours ago, Maria1989 said:

 

 

I can physically be there and sign the paper works when im staying with him in Kabul, no need for e signatures and as for as the marriage certificate all they will need is a copy so i can send a copy to my friend via email

whose helped people in marriage petitions in the past 

my moms fiance is about 15 years younger than her but like i said my fiance and him dont know each other personally they just live in Kabul and they mer for the time with us so prior to that they didnt know each other

andmy fiance is 24 im 31 not a big age difference, he worked for a very well known american base as a guard At the time of his interview in afg its not a normal life there where its easy living or job hunting options sonhis contract ended shortly before Ramadan, 2017. Hes currently out of a job, and im a on a financial budget but i had a successful business owner who is my friend that wa the co sponsper

and when i asked my lawyer if maybe there was something suspiscious thatvym mother and i applied almost at the same timing also with ththe same lawyer he said one lawyer can file for five people from the same house hold for instance..

On 8/2/2017 at 10:09 PM, Ebunoluwa said:

 

That is probably one of the biggest red flags and OP needs to address the details to the CO at the next interview. If the 2 men know each other and if her mother's
fiance introduced OP to her now fiance then that would be looked at as a scam, add the mom's quick divorce and K1 filing to that and it takes a lot to overcome it all.
It would help a bit if the mother's fiance was approved. Even more reason to get more visits in and face time with the fiance.

Please tell me What details do they have to adreas in the. Next interview? They never mentioned that they know each other to the officer. But there were some pics during the interview that showed all of us( my mother her love and mine) in the pics so i dont know i  that  would tighten the evidence and whatnot 

On 8/2/2017 at 8:53 PM, Lemonslice said:

I might have missed this details, but did your mom's fiancé/lover get approved, or is she in the same predicament as you are? Do both of your lovers know each other?

Yes our fiances both know each other because my mother and i met them in india and we all stayed in the guest house  but our fiances live in Kabul however they dont stay in contact etc.. my mothers case also got returned and on the same

boat as i about relationship concerns 

On 8/2/2017 at 8:24 PM, Ebunoluwa said:

Don't waste your money on a lawyer who was not present at the interview and who doesn't know your relationship as well as you do.
Not having met his family is probably another reason they refused the visa.
What exactly....and I mean exactly....word for word were the questions and the answers in the interview ?
You don't have to answer here but prepare him to focus on what the CO was harping on the last time.
Drill him on that even though you likely already have,do it again.

 

Other than that your plan seems reasonably sound and with the future visits and more relationship evidence you should get approved.
Take a lot of pics with the family and from the wedding.
BE THERE on the premises for the interview and have him tell the CO immediately that you are waiting outside and would love to be part
of the interview if allowed.
Best wishes, took us 5 years with a returned K1 but he is here now. Just count on some AP time after the next interview.
 

Wow thats insane why did yours take 5 years??! And which country

btw thanks for always answering helping and being patient i reuly appreciate it

On 8/2/2017 at 6:42 PM, Maria1989 said:

A lawyer is a waste of time and money.... Nobody can "prepare you" and more sufficiently that what you will need if you have a true relationship. My question is, you had two month long visits and never met any of his family, why is that? I definitely think marriage, and then another month long visit and going during the interview time will help. It is definitely a good idea to have a strong front loaded petition with lots of relationship evidence to overcome their presumption that it wasn't a "true relationship". Good luck and best wishes 

Thanks for your advice so first the reason why i didn't meet his parents is because we met in India not in Kabul because my mother was frightened for my life since I was raised in America and left Kabul 27 years ago so it was for my own well-being that we met and a safe country etc.

now are you saying i should go there get married stay a month or so then come back apply? Because what i wanted to do was marry him there meet his family and meanwhile while im with him for 1 month apply for cr1? I have a friend that i can send my e signature and copies of the application via mail and he can mail uscis the paper work this being so i dont have to come back and forth and save time what do you think? 

On 8/1/2017 at 3:33 PM, Unidentified said:

So you only met twice during the process? Afghanistan is a MENA country which means it is considered a high fraud country and two visits is not going to be enough for them. You need to prove to them that you really are a couple and two visits will not do that. Their opinion of your relationship is not going to change unless you guys spend more time together. 

Okay but i have female friends like myself who sponspored their fiances/husbands that lives in kabul and had no problems she went just once to get married she ddint do multiple visits.. also i really think its a matter of luck when it comes to the interviewer- we had a reallt nasty mean and attacked him from the beginning..

p.s do you think this is a good plan?

I went to see him twice in one yesr and both times stayed over a month i thought if i go this time to his homeland county Kabul( not india)meet his family spend a month or so there do a small legal ceremony etc, file the cr1- then spend a couple more months with him so this way when its

his time for interview they will see the physical timeline of the relationship perhaps i can go back a final time and wait for him otaide the interview like many spouses did... 

also another very expensive jewish lawyer whose speciality is cases in Kabul also asvised me to get married but hes charging $3800! Just for his legal fees becauss hes gonna "prepare" my fiance what to say during the interview and on top of that he said minimum 2 years it will take because my case is now complicated etc.. i think thats bullshit 

Because its not like a criminal case "to prepare us" the facts pics and evidence speaks for itself if any relationship is honest that will show in time and truth shall always prevail

On 8/1/2017 at 3:33 PM, Unidentified said:

So you only met twice during the process? Afghanistan is a MENA country which means it is considered a high fraud country and two visits is not going to be enough for them. You need to prove to them that you really are a couple and two visits will not do that. Their opinion of your relationship is not going to change unless you guys spend more time together. 

Ok but By the way i had many female friends like myself- from afg that sponsored their fiances/husband from kabul and nothing went wrong she went only once to see him and got married so i think mainly we had a stupid mean and a nasty female officer who interviewed him from the beginning.. i think its also a matter of luck when it comes to the interviewer.. 

On 8/1/2017 at 3:33 PM, Unidentified said:

So you only met twice during the process? Afghanistan is a MENA country which means it is considered a high fraud country and two visits is not going to be enough for them. You need to prove to them that you really are a couple and two visits will not do that. Their opinion of your relationship is not going to change unless you guys spend more time together. 

 

 i already went to see him twice in one yesr and both times stayed over a month i thought if i go this time to his homeland county Kabul( not india)meet his family spend a month or so there do a small legal ceremony etc, file the cr1- then spend a couple more months with him so this way when its

his time for interview they will see the physical timeline of the relationship perhaps i can go back a final time and wait for him otaide the interview like many spouses did... 

also another very expensive jewish lawyer whose speciality is cases in Kabul also asvised me to get married but hes charging $3800! Just for his legal fees becauss hes gonna "prepare" my fiance what to say during the interview and on top of that he said minimum 2 years it will take because my case is now complicated etc.. i think thats bullshit 

Because its not like a criminal case "to prepare us" the facts pics and evidence speaks for itself if any relationship is honest that will show in time and truth shall always prevail. 

What do you think about this plan?

On 8/1/2017 at 3:02 PM, Ebunoluwa said:

Because bona fide includes to truly check someone out for an extended period of time and getting to know them in person other than from a screen . Anyone can keep up being fraud motivated in a speedy fly over and get married scheme. 

I wont repeat over and over about not having to wait for the dang expiration letter but do your research with a real immigration lawyer and not these fly by night jokers and understand that the Uscis line is called the misinformation line for a reason.

I hear you, my expiration date was 6/27/17 but i already went to see him twice in one yesr and both times stayed over a month i thought if i go this time to his homeland county Kabul( not india)meet his family spend a month or so there do a small legal ceremony etc, file the cr1- then spend a couple more months with him so this way when its

his time for interview they will see the physical timeline of the relationship perhaps i can go back a final time and wait for him otaide the interview like many spouses did... 

also another very expensive jewish lawyer whose speciality is cases in Kabul also asvised me to get married but hes charging $3800! Just for his legal fees becauss hes gonna "prepare" my fiance what to say during the interview and on top of that he said minimum 2 years it will take because my case is now complicated etc.. i think thats bullshit 

Because its not like a criminal case "to prepare us" the facts pics and evidence speaks for itself if any relationship is honest that will show in time and truth shall always prevai

3 hours ago, Unidentified said:

You don't have to wait for the letter to get married and file for CR1 but since they are thinking that you are not a bona fide couple you should get some more visits in before you file. 

That doesnt make any sense why would govisit back and forth then wait" to apply obviously they will realize its bonifide when i do go back and marry him then apply because they will see i want him here fast and etc..they are ###### idiots to believe its not bonafide for crying out loud  mother went with me the first time to meet him and then while my case was in status after six months I went to see him again I had  more than enough pics, hotel receipts, flights and whatnot evidence to prove the bonifidy of our relationship. Why would i have to take multiple trips before i file when its going to delay him longer

On 7/23/2017 at 8:08 PM, Greenbaum said:

Did you reply with the required documents within the time frame specified in the 221g?

 

No one can tell you how long it takes for the return to USCIS.

Hi yes i did so i contacted my congressman and they found the reason of return which was the officer hsd serious concerns of bona fide relationship.. my stupid lawyer removed himself from my case about two weeks after my fiances interview, i am stuck. Most people are trlling me when a petition gets returned and they tell u to contact them in 180 days, it means denied or they let it expire.. but some other lawyers and USCIS told me to wait for an official denial letter than move on to  cr1 i need a lot of advice and help would appreciate that thanks

On 7/17/2017 at 0:11 PM, Ebunoluwa said:

You can marry as soon as tomorrow if you wish and file the day after tomorrow.
No waiting needed.
A CR1 overrides a returned K1 in process and you will be asked questions in the forms regarding the previous petition so
they will know your K1 has been returned. Attach the return letter from the embassy with your new petition.
Front load your next petition with lots of relationship evidence so that won't be returned too.
If a CR1 gets returned THEN it will be reviewed because it is a spousal visa.

 Either way I can fire my lawyer he already took my money is on with the case anyhow he just told me I have the option to marry him like you're saying or I can wait For usics send me a letter to send more proof of relationship, which then if they affect it will send it back to Kabul, and issue the visa there do u think its worth the wait because he said they take a long time to reply.. could take months or longer..

On 7/17/2017 at 0:11 PM, Ebunoluwa said:

You can marry as soon as tomorrow if you wish and file the day after tomorrow.
No waiting needed.
A CR1 overrides a returned K1 in process and you will be asked questions in the forms regarding the previous petition so
they will know your K1 has been returned. Attach the return letter from the embassy with your new petition.
Front load your next petition with lots of relationship evidence so that won't be returned too.
If a CR1 gets returned THEN it will be reviewed because it is a spousal visa.

 First off thank you so much for all your help I really can't thank you enough and I don't think complaining is going to get me anywhere I'm sure  it's been thousands of complaints I want to know could I apply for the CR one when im in Kabul (visitn and married already to him) or i have to come back 

On 7/14/2017 at 1:03 PM, Ebunoluwa said:

 

 

Your lawyer is wrong. Get a competent immigration attorney. 

Yes, even though the letter says your petition will be reviewed by USCIS it will not. Returned K1's will be purposely expired and in 6 months you will get a letter stating that it is expired and that you can file again. You can either re file a K1 or marry and file a CR1. Overcome the reason for the refusal with frequent visits and lots of relationship evidence in a front loaded next petition. No lawyer needed. The embassies are inefficient and irresponsible to still crank out these letters stating it will be reviewed. Spousal cases get a review but not K1's.

Ok but does this mean i have  to first wait until six months that it's expired and then I can file for a CR1, or can I do that as soon as possible ? Because if this is what it is i want to plan to go see him asap and marry him asap then come back to new york and apply for cr1 

what do you advise? Is that a wise move? 

Thanks so much! God bless

On ‎7‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 7:07 AM, LabOz said:

Hi sorry for late response. I'm just reading this for the first time now. 

ForestChild does someone HAVE to wait until the letter is received to file a new K-1? 

Thanks

Are you guys completely and 100 percent positive?? Im so devistated right nos but thanks glsd to know im jot gonna wait 6 months !