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    I-751 March 2018 Filers

    in Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussion

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    Hi

    after reading all the post I want to share my experience 

    I applied last March 

    no update after that

    than I applied for n400 

    but still no update about my ROC.

    i called couple time but agent can’t give my any info beside my case is in time frame 

    so finally I called again last week and when agent told me same thing I got upset  and ask her to connect me to supervisor.she told me supervisor will see same info.i stress again that I need some answer about my ROC.i told her look like u guys lost my file or something.than she start digging and ask me if I applied for n400 I said yes so she start looking my n400 and told me that I m in line for interview and don’t track your roc any more just keep eye on n400.most probably you ll have combine interviews.

     So that’s my story from last week 

    don’t know if it will help but just decide to share.m in hospital just had second baby.beautiful son 😍

     

    good luck 

    I-751 March 2018 Filers

    in Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussion

    Posted

    1 minute ago, Ladyluck1 said:

    Anyone getting this anytime they check. I've called and the automated guy can't find it either but an actual human can. I wish i knew what was going on. I haven't heard anything about mine since august when we got our 18month extension. 

    My son (10) had to go for Biometrics this week, i didn't have to do them. His has not updated either just says we received your case March 2018. 

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    My status saying same thing from beginning.

    I-751 March 2018 Filers

    in Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussion

    Posted

    1 hour ago, GBOS said:

    Here is the answer to the myth about I-751 and N-400 filings

     

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    This explanation is available in the adjudication manual used by all adjudicating officers (aka. the adjudication bible).  N-400 file preparation is handled exclusive by the National Benefits Center (NBC) in Lee Summit, Missouri.

     

    Once Form N-400 is filed by an applicant, the system runs A# to see if an applicant is still a conditional resident (CR).  If an applicant is still a CR (meaning an applicant has a pending I-751 (marriage less than 2-years)), a file request is automatically initiated to locate and retrieve the I-751 file from the Service Center the file is at.  NBCwaits until it receives I-751 file, put it together with N-400 file and transfer it to the field office having jurisdiction over the address supplied by an applicant.  This system is not perfect (well nothing with USCIS is perfect).  Here are four possible scenarios that we know to play out in reality as a result of N-400 filing while I-751 is pending:

     

    Scenario #1

    In some cases, filing N-400 will effectively delay (and I don't like this term because it is misleading unless you really understand the big picture of how N-400 and I-751 adjudication works together) I-751 adjudication depending on how fast the field office is processing N-400.  For example, if you are in Dallas, TX, this is one of the slowest N-400 processing due to a very large number of immigrants within this field office's jurisdiction.  Currently it runs about 16-20 months.  That said, your I-751 will NOT be adjudicated until you are called for N-400 interview and both cases will be adjudicated at the same time.  This is when you see people on VJ here complain that they filed I-751 in late 2017 and they are still waiting.  The majority of them complain and as soon as you ask, you will find out that they also have a pending N-400 in one of these overloaded office, namely -- Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Atlanta etc.  The wait time for N-400 is improving, nonetheless.  N-400 has been and will always be a priority when it comes to field office workload.  This is more true in the election year (even year).

     

    Scenario #2

    In some cases, filing N-400 will effectively speed up I-751 adjudication.  For example, if you are in West Palm Beach, FL or Jacksonville, FL, this is one of the fastest N-400 processing in the country due to a very small number of immigrants plus army bases (note: the military members and their family members are entitled to an expedited N-400 processing).  Currently for these fast offices, it runs about 4-6 months.  That said, your I-751 will also be adjudicated at the same time when you are called for N-400 interview.

     

    Scenario #3

    In some cases, filing N-400 will also delay (and this is a real delay) an adjudication of both I-751 and N-400.  The reasons for this delay is the I-751 file has already been opened by the officer (note: once it is opened by the IO, it will not be pulled and transferred to NBC) and is awaiting an adjudication.  This seems like it should happen quickly once the file is opened, but it is not always the case.  Therefore, some people are being called for N-400 interview first, but their I-751 file is still with the Service Center.  So N-400 cannot be fully approved until the IO at the Service Center finalizes and approves I-751, and who knows what could go wrong in that process.  You also see people claims that N-400 pushes the IO to approve their I-751 at the Service Center.  That is just pure luck, if it happens.  This is not true.

     

    Scenario #4

    In very very unique cases, the I-751 file is stuck in purgatory of security checks (FBI Name Checks, IBIS, Criminal History etc.) or a fraud investigation.  Fraud investigation is unique to I-751 filing because of the widespread marriage fraud (that is what USCIS claims to happen, which I disagree).  The security check delays are much more common among cases in this scenario than fraud investigations are.  The manpower of USCIS just does not support the investigation of marriage fraud, as opposed to other frauds like H1B.  USCIS chooses to fry bigger fishes.  You can see these in their court filing, many of which they put out on USCIS electronic reading room for people to see that fraud will not be tolerated.  Nobody knows how long it takes to process the cases belong to these individuals (whether they are simply unlucky or they are actually worthy of security/fraud concerns).

     

    What I am going to say is here are the misconceptions we see here on VJ all the time:

    1. File N-400 as soon as you can to speed up your I-751 adjudication.  This is NOT always true.  In some cases, it does, and some cases, it does not.  See above.

    2. File N-400 while I-751 is pending will delay your I-751 adjudication.  This is NOT always true either.  In some cases, it does, and some cases, it does not.  See above.

    3. File N-400 will force the Service Center to adjudicate my pending I-751.  This is PLAIN WRONG.  USCIS does not care if you file N-400.  To some people, it does happen that way, and that is just pure luck.  Like their file is literally on someone's desk to be approved, as they file for N-400.

     

    I am not an immigration lawyer (but I know many); I also don't work for USCIS (but I know a few who does).  I am just a VJ member who also has a pending I-751 filed in March 2018.  I understand the system pretty darn well by studying the manuals and asking questions from the people who actually work the system.  I try my best to be a contributing member of VJ by helping people understand the system and don't believe any misconception of how USCIS works.  Assuming that USCIS follows the logic is correct, but assuming that a result will also be logical and chronological is incorrect.  Processing immigration petition is not a straight pipe where it goes in one way and out another way.  It is very inefficient and bureaucratic.  I am cynical at times you will see on here, just to blow off steam of frustration I too have with USCIS.

    Really appreciate your hard work and info 

    N-400 February 2019 Filers

    in US Citizenship Case Filing and Progress Reports

    Posted · Edited by Sasifz

    3 minutes ago, Patchie said:

    How did you get your information update for the biometrics appointment? 

    I got up today and checked my email and I found that I got another email informed me as below.

    We have taken an action on your case and it needs your attention

     
    		 

    Sign in to your account to view your case status and additional steps you need to take

     

    As I understand that it's from different sources from the text and email I got last night. So now I assume that I got notification to my email from both websites.

    Please confirm if you got the same notification on your email too, or you have to log in on your account to see your case movement.

    Thanks!

     

    Same thing here 

    someone told me It ll take couple days to see ur appointment letter in documents section 

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