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  1. Hello, I can understand that you can't afford to go to Singapore. I might be wrong but it sounds like you are in the very early days of your visa journey together. If you apply after only seeing each other a few times and for short time periods, it is likely you will experience AP after the interview.

    I read many of the responses to your question(s) and find many on here saying that nearly all Pakistani males receive AP. That may be true, I do not know but not ALL Pakistani males are placed on AP. My husband is Pakistani, Muslim, and 12 years younger than me. I am a US natural born citizen without any ethnic connection to Pakistan...my heritage/blood is mixed German, English, and Native Cherokee (considered Caucasian). I do not know any Urdu and I am Christian. I have two children from a previous relationship. We did not have AP at all. We had the interview in 11 months and he was here by the time our 1 year anniversary (since applying for the spousal visa) came around last month.

    What we DID do that helped us is as follows:

    1) Did not rush to apply. We took our time to really get to know one another and to spend a lot of time together. By the time we applied we had spent the following time together:

    Prior to marriage:

    8 Days in Dubai (March 2012 - we got engaged at this first meeting)

    18 Days in Singapore (August - September 2012) and did our residency there

    8 more days in Singapore (March 2013)

    Married March 2013. We were engaged for almost a year when we married.

    8 more days after marriage in Singapore (March 2013)

    10 days in Dubai (September 2013)

    Sent in the application in December 2013 and was again in Dubai when it was received and processed. By the time we applied with the I-130 we had already spent 52 days together and had been married over 8 months.

    5 more days in Dubai December 2013

    15 days in Malaysia for our first wedding anniversary (March 2014)

    10 more days in Dubai and we actually filled out the DS-261 from there (August 2014)

    by the time he had his interview in November 2014 we had spent nearly 3 months together in 'real' (face time)

    2) Married in a 3rd country where it is easy for Muslim and Christian to marry

    3) Provided proof that his family approved our marriage. His brother and sister-in-law witnessed and signed our marriage certificate. We took many photos together and traveled together in Singapore for over a week. They did not care one bit about my family's approval or ask anything about my family other than my children.

    4) Hired a good attorney who is well known in many consulate circles (but not Pakistan). Still, I believe it helped us avoid any AP

    There may be other countries besides Singapore where it is easy to marry but we could only find Barbados and Singapore and Barbados is about impossible as you'd need a US transit visa to go there.

    Try to spend as much time together as possible before applying for a spousal visa. The K1 is going to be extremely difficult under your current circumstances (my opinion). If your fiancee converts they will think she did it so you could marry and they likely would ask for a certificate proving she converted. You may be able to marry in Pakistan as Muslim and Christian but most of the information we found on that seemed to suggest otherwise...the same for Dubai and other strictly Muslim countries.

    Someone else mentioned the lady who had the difficult interview for the K1 visa but actually did get it in the end...however, she was a Pakistani Christian female, not Muslim. Both were Christian, from what I remember reading. It was a hard interview but they were both Christian. If she had been Muslim it would have been impossible as a Muslim woman cannot marry a Christian man.

    We did an immense amount of research into our particular situation and did not rush. We were impatient but so determined to be together that we controlled our pain with visits as often as possible and held off and waited and did everything very thoroughly right from the beginning. In my mind it is better to do the waiting prior to the interview than to have to experience indefinite AP with no way to know when or if there would be an approval at the end. Waiting for the interview was it's own horror, I can't imagine what the AP is like after the interview.

    Sorry this is so long but I hope it helps, if not you, then someone at some point.

    Better to do the waiting now and build the relationship so that the consulate will have a very difficult time saying No or AP at the interview...

    i cant afford to travel to Singapore...

    she will stay with me only for 5 to 6 days..she has good job in usa and dont wanna lose that job.

    if we stay together only five days then there will be an other red flag on our 5 days relationship...

  2. Hello, in my opinion you should completely bypass the Fiance visa and go for spousal. Marry in a 3rd country, not in Pakistan. Marrying there seems to create a whole new world of problems for couples of mixed religion. We married in Singapore but that may be more difficult now as Singapore started giving only family travel visas to Pakistanis last year (my husband was denied twice in 2014 for a travel visa but we had no issues in 2012 and 2013).

    If you can go on holiday with siblings or parents, maybe you could get the Singapore family visa to do your wedding there. In Singapore a Christian and Muslim can marry very easily, no problem. It is a civil marriage. Take your family members there to witness the marriage. That helped us a great deal during the interview questioning. We also made sure that he took the interview in English as that is the only language I know.

    There is a prior 15 day residency requirement in Singapore but your fiancee can do that alone. It doesn't require both of you to be there for that residency period. Yes, it will cost a small fortune but it worked for us. I know many on here say don't use a lawyer and waste your money, but I think you should as that 'stamp' really seems to have helped us. My husband is now here in the US with me and already has his green card. I am 12 years older and we are different religions. I am a female US Citizen and he is a male Pakistani.

    Don't rush to get the visa...spend as much time as possible together before you apply, especially after the wedding. This may help to avoid AP but no one really knows. We had no AP and were approved at the interview. We married in March 2013 and I applied in December 2013 for the spousal visa. We took the months between to spend as much time together as possible. Dubai is the easiest place to meet but we also met in Singapore and Malaysia. We received the visa in under a year, which is not very common for couples in our situation. His interview was in November 2014.

    Everything I've said is my opinion but is based on our own personal visa journey.

  3. My husband came through Abu Dhabi earlier this month (December 2014). It was fast and easy, took around 15 minutes there. He already has his green card but not his social security number yet (we requested it on our application). It took less than 3 weeks to get the green card.

    Hope this helps!

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