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Packet 4 for montreal includes both K1 AND spousal visa. If you look right above the wording for I-864 it says I-134 for fiance and employment based visas.

For fiance visa you only need to do I-134 for yourself and your father, I-864 is for spousal visas and AOSing. It's just weird because the packet combines the info.

Please bring to your interview the original and one photocopy of each of the following documents (as applicable), for each applicant:

¾ The appointment letter showing the date and time of your interview

¾ Passport valid for at least 6 months beyond the date you plan to enter the United States

¾ Birth certificate

¾ Adoptions decree (s)

¾ Marriage certificate (s)

¾ Death and/or divorce certificate(s)

¾ Police certificates from each country in which the applicant has resided for one year or longer. The certificate(s) must be issued within one year of the date of the visa appointment. NOTE: An applicant must present a police certificate from his/her country of current residence and country of nationality, if residence in such country exceeds 6 months

¾ Court records

¾ Military records

¾ Evidence of domicile in the United States

¾ Job offer letter (for employment-based visas)

¾ Affidavit of support (I-134) (for fiancé, employment and DV visas)

¾ Evidence of support (I-864, Federal individual income tax return for the most recent tax year)

¾ Medical examination

¾ Two photographs (in color)

¾ For K visa applicants, a letter of intent to marry signed by the petitioner within 30 days of interview date

Amazing, thank you so much. I know eventually that we'll have to do the I-864 when I do AOS but for now I'm glad we don't have to tackle that beast of a document!!

Hey everyone,

I'm prepping the final paperwork for my interview in Montreal on September 14th.

In Packet 4, one of the items in the list is:

¾ Evidence of support (I-864, Federal individual income tax return for the most recent tax year)

Thanks everyone.

Hi all!

I looked around all over the place for an answer to this question but all I could find was answers pertaining to couples where both did not live in the USA at the time.

Currently I'm preparing for my interview which has a confirmed date (September 14th, woo!). I'm double-checking everything and wanted to ensure that I knew exactly what documents were necessary as "Evidence of Petitioners Domicile in the United States".

My fiancee (The petitioner) has:

- A house in the town I am moving to that she rents, from her father

- She receives bills and letters at this address but does not have a formal lease

- Her W2's have been mailed to her at this address and I have copies of them with the address on it.

Ultimately, if I bring with me to the interview letters / bills with the address on it and her W2's with the address on it, will that be good enough or should I also have my fiancee and her father put together some kind of lease that has their signatures on it?

Thanks everyone

When Adjustment of Status is approved in the end, the result is that you are a permanent resident, i.e. you have a green card. AOS may take around a year. It's hard to predict. But you shouldn't worry about how long AOS takes.

As soon as you apply for AOS (they receive the application), you are authorized to stay in the US. The receipt which you will receive quickly will be proof of that.

For work, you should apply for an EAD for free together with applying for AOS. The EAD allows you to work and you should get it in about 3 months from applying, no matter how long AOS takes.

Excellent - thank you for the advice. I'll check on that and ensure that that's in my plan when I get down there - I want to get to work right away.

I was confused about how long the AOS would take to arrive and this definitely helped. Thank you again.

First of all, in order to apply for AOS, you need the certified copy of marriage certificate, which will often take weeks to get. So it's pretty unlikely you will "apply for AOS on day 3".

Second, I don't know what you mean by "AOS will come after the 90 day period is over". What is "AOS will come"? You can apply for AOS either before or after the 90 days. Once you apply (and it is received) then you have applied. They will send you a receipt in a few days. (And even before that you may get a notification by SMS.) Mail in the US is not so slow that it takes more than a few days for things to get from here to there.

Thank you! I have some more reading to do, I think

By "AOS will come" I simply mean when the actual change is made - how much time is there (on average) between when I apply and when my status is actually changed so that I am allowed to work within the USA. I was concerned that if the actual change allowing me to work in the USA came after the 90 day period that it would be problematic, but you've said that you can apply even after the 90 day period is over, which eases my mind a bit.

From what you're saying, receipt of my application is received in a few days or shorter, by mail or SMS, so that's a plus.

Again, thank you for your help, I appreciate it.

Hi everyone! <3

I was wondering about a particular part of this process. I know from my research here that once I get my K1, go to the USA, and get the marriage license, my immediate next step is to apply for Adjustment of Status (AOS).

I'm planning on ensuring that we get married ASAP. Whenever my 90 day date range is, I want to fly on day 1, get married on day 2, and apply for AOS on day 3.

If I do that (and theoretically have 87 days remaining) do you guys think that there's any sort of possibility that the AOS will come after the 90 day period is over? What happens if it does?

Thanks everyone.

Thank you JJ!! I really appreciate your insight.

Hi all!

I was wondering what the average wait time was between a successful interview and the receipt of your visa. The page for the Montreal Embassy on VJ says:

Montreal now uses DHL to send your passport and visa back. No need to get the Xpresspost envelope that was previously required. When packet 3 arrives you will be instructed to register for DHL. You will pick the nearest location to you from a drop down menu. The waiting period varies.

Knowing that it varies, would anyone be able to give me some insight as to an average, or a likely maximum? Any data at all is really helpful.

Thank you!

The two photographs are of the beneficiary for use on the green card and in your file. They need to be US size passport photos which are different than the Canadian ones so make sure when you get them done you make that clear. I had mine done at a Shopper's Drug Mart and the girl was confused but we got it right eventually. You will also need a photo for medical so might as well get that done at the same time. I honestly don't remember how many photos for medical so maybe look into that while you're at it. I'm sure someone else here can speak up and give you more info.

That's really good information, thank you so much!

Hello again VisaJourney! <3

I posted this initially in the main forum but I thought it would be good if I posted it here as well - since it's Canada specific.

I've got almost everything ready for the checklist that I'm sending back to Montreal. Here's what I've got, line-by-line:

1. DS-160 - Completed and ready! I have the e-mailed PDF and the barcode number.

2. Scanned copy of the "Packet 3 checklist for K-1 Fiance(e) visa applicants" - Checked off and scanned back in, PDF'd and ready to go!

3. Color-scanned Copy of the biographic page of the applicant's passport - done and ready!

Specific Packet Requirements

1. Passport Valid for at least 6 months beyond date you plan to enter the United States - Mine is valid until 2018

2. Birth Certificate - I have a long-firm "Certificate of Live Birth" from the Province of Ontario

3. Adoptions Decree (s) - N/A, I was not adopted

4. Marriage Certificate (s) - N/A, I have never been married

5. Death and/or divorce certificates - N/A, I have never died ( ) and I have never been divorced

6. Police Certificates from each country in which the applicant has resided for one year or longer - I applied for this on January 9, they said it would take 2 - 3 weeks to get it to me in the mail

7. Court Records - N/A, no applicable court sessions related to any of this (or any at all, really)

8. Military Records - N/A, no military history

9. Evidence of Petitioner's Domicile in the United States - We have a form that proves that my (American) fiancee's father (my sponsor) owns the house that my fiancee is living in and is the house address on our forms - will this be good enough?

10. Affidavit of support (I-134) with all supporting documents - Okay. So for my (American) fiancee, this was pretty simple - she makes underneath the poverty requirements by a small amount and has no property, assets, or savings. We are filling out the form and supplying her W-2 from 2014, which shows these numbers. Is this okay?

For the sponsor, her father receives income from the state for disability and that is his major source of income; he also receives rent from the property that he owns. He is stating all the figures on the form correctly, including the value of the house - and supplying the receipts of his disability checks as well as a printout of the property details that show that it is in his name. Is this enough?

11. Evidence of Relationship petitioner - beneficiary - we can supply recent text message logs, pictures, videos, and I have a boatload of receipts and travel documents from when I went there in December 2014, as well as travel records from previous trips as well (the most recent before December 2014 being August 2014).

12. Two Photographs (in color) - of me? Of her? Of both?

13. Letter of intent to marry signed by the petitioner within 30 days of interview date - not a problem to procure this as soon as we get the interview date.

VJ, is this enough information to submit this packet back? Should I have anything else at this point? What do you guys think?

Any help would be massively appreciated. Thank you all so much again for making this all possible. <3

Looks good to me! Good luck

Thank you!!

Hello again VisaJourney! <3

I've got almost everything ready for the checklist that I'm sending back to Montreal. Here's what I've got, line-by-line:

1. DS-160 - I need to get some passport photos (doing this on Monday) and then I'll have this completed ASAP.

2. Scanned copy of the "Packet 3 checklist for K-1 Fiance(e) visa applicants" - scanning on Monday after everything is checked off

3. Color-scanned Copy of the biographic page of the applicant's passport - done and ready

Specific Packet Requirements

1. Passport Valid for at least 6 months beyond date you plan to enter the United States - Mine is valid until 2018

2. Birth Certificate - I have a long-firm "Certificate of Live Birth" from the Province of Ontario

3. Adoptions Decree (s) - N/A, I was not adopted

4. Marriage Certificate (s) - N/A, I have never been married

5. Death and/or divorce certificates - N/A, I have never died (lol) and I have never been divorced

6. Police Certificates from each country in which the applicant has resided for one year or longer - I just applied for this yesterday, they are sending it back to me in 2 - 3 weeks via mail

7. Court Records - N/A, no applicable court sessions related to any of this (or any at all, really)

8. Military Records - N/A, no military history

9. Evidence of Petitioner's Domicile in the United States - We have a form that proves that my (American) fiancee's father (my sponsor) owns the house that my fiancee is living in and is the house address on our forms - will this be good enough?

10. Affidavit of support (I-134) with all supporting documents - Okay. So for my (American) fiancee, this was pretty simple - she makes underneath the poverty requirements by a small amount and has no property, assets, or savings. We are filling out the form and supplying her W-2 from 2014, which shows these numbers. Is this okay?

For the sponsor, her father receives income from the state for disability and that is his major source of income; he also receives rent from the property that he owns. He is stating all the figures on the form correctly, including the value of the house - and supplying the receipts of his disability checks as well as a printout of the property details that show that it is in his name. Is this enough?

11. Evidence of Relationship petitioner - beneficiary - we can supply recent text message logs, pictures, videos, and I have a boatload of receipts and travel documents from when I went there in December 2014, as well as travel records from previous trips as well (the most recent before December 2014 being August 2014).

12. Two Photographs (in color) - of me? Of her? Of both?

13. Letter of intent to marry signed by the petitioner within 30 days of interview date - not a problem to procure this as soon as we get the interview date.

VJ, is this enough information to submit this packet back? Should I have anything else at this point? What do you guys think?

Any help would be massively appreciated. Thank you all so much again for making this all possible. <3

Why don't you find another co sponsor with a higher income ?

If we had that option, that would be preferable, yes - but unfortunately this person is the only person that we have been able to get to agree to do it. It's a big responsibility, and so there's only one person we have that is willing to make it happen.

Check this out sister follow this.

http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-864p.pdf

Yep - that's what I used to determine the poverty minimum. Unfortunately that document does not tell me whether or not a co-sponsor with $11K in income and a $90K house is in the clear ): Thank you though!

Hey everyone,

So the lovely KayDeeCee was helping me in another thread with respect to co-sponsors. I determined that our co-sponsor, who is retired (from a back injury, he's 55) but makes money from property at this point, has $11K to report in terms of income but also has about $90K in assets on a house that we can put down.

KayDeeCee indicated that since the person is below the poverty line according to their tax forms, they need five times the difference in assets.

The deficit is thus $9,662 (We're two people, nobody additional) and so five times that is 48,310. We've got approximately 47% more than what is required in this case.

Am I in the clear? Is there any documentation from the USCIS that discusses this? Any help or insight into this would be amazing.

Thank you everyone

The co-sponsor will need 5 times the amount they are short on income when using assets to make up the difference.

Okay, thank you. Is there a document anywhere from the USCIS that discusses this? So far as I can see, the deficit is $9,662 ... with the house being $90K (again, a rough estimate) it seems we are well over that limit, and therefore should be in the clear.

I think I should probably start a new thread about this. Thank you again for all your help.

There is no combining of incomes for the I-134. The USC petitioner will fill out an I-134, even if they do not meet the requirement. A co-sponsor will fill out their own separate I-134. They must meet the requirement for their own household size plus the foreign fiance(e). If your co-sponsor does not meet the requirement, then you will need to find a co-sponsor that does.

Okay, thank you. So in this case, where the co-sponsor is underneath the income but also has sufficient assets, do they still technically not qualify?

You're the best, thank you so much for your help.

Does he need to provide assets to meet the income requirement? If he has enough income alone, then he does not need to list assets at all, so no need to bother providing proof of the savings and property value.

If he does need to use them, then bank statements for the savings, and an appraisal of the property value plus any documentation showing any liens against it in order to get its net value. He can provide separate documentation of the rental income he receives, and it should be on his tax returns as well.

Hi KayDeeCee,

I've determined that there's one house worth roughly $80K, $18K in income from my American Fiancee, and $11K in income from her father. Combined, will this be enough? I'm asking because I know that neither the American Citizen or the sponsor are over the Poverty Line, so I just wanted to double-check if this was okay since it was combined (both of them together make 29K, plus the house, equals 109K).

Thanks

Does he need to provide assets to meet the income requirement? If he has enough income alone, then he does not need to list assets at all, so no need to bother providing proof of the savings and property value.

If he does need to use them, then bank statements for the savings, and an appraisal of the property value plus any documentation showing any liens against it in order to get its net value. He can provide separate documentation of the rental income he receives, and it should be on his tax returns as well.

Thank you so much. I've forwarded that to him ... that's pretty much everything I needed. If we have additional questions I might send you a message. Thanks again

Hey everyone! Hope you folks are doing fabulous today

Myself and my fiancee are going to require a sponsor to complete our application. The Packet we received from Montreal indicates that he needs to fill out an I-134 and provide all supporting documents.

We know that the sponsor we are using (the American citizen's father) owns several properties and has a certain amount saved in the bank, and residual income from the properties.

What types of supporting documents would be required in this case?

Thanks everyone You guys are the best and I wouldn't have been able to do this without you. <3

Hey everyone! Hope you're all having a great Sunday.

I'm reading over the Packet 3 that I downloaded from the URL I got. I have a few questions that I've done some searching on here to answer but haven't come up with the strongest answers as of yet.

1. Evidence of petitioner’s domicile in the United States. In our case, my fiancee currently rents out a house that her father owns. It's very informal, there is no lease, there are no receipts. However, he is intending on being a co-sponsor.

Would proof of ownership of the house in his name be valid here?

If not, how would we go about proving evidence of domicile? I have seen on this thread that bringing bills and letters that have the name and address on them are not always acceptable.

2. Two photographs (in color). This is pretty vague ... do they mean two photographs of me (the beneficiary)? What format of photographs - do they want the passport style? Or do they want one picture of me, one picture of the petitioner?

I had a whole bunch of questions about the police check but thankfully some skilled searching around on here got all of that answered.

Thanks folks! I love you all!

Hey guys!

I'm so excited! After weeks of calling the NVC and not getting through to them at all we received a letter from the NVC stating that they received and forwarded the petition to Montreal! I've attached our letter (with the sensitive bits blurred out).

Now, here's my question. I'm trying to edit the Timeline and it's asking me for:

1. Date Package Received from NVC

2. Date Case #, IIN and BIN Assigned

3. Date Package Left from NVC

In this case, since I never got in touch with the NVC, I don't really know any of this information at all. None of this info is actually present on the letter, and I suppose I could infer that the date would be July 8, but that could be wrong.

Is there another way to get this info? How does everyone else do it?

Thanks y'all

Hey everyone,

Me and my SO received our NOA2 on June 18 and I decided to start calling the NVC to check whether or not it had been forwarded to them starting July 2.

Every day since July 2 when I call, there's a myriad of reasons as to why the call can't connect ...

On July 2, I was put on hold by the automated operator for 30+ minutes. I was at work, and waited as long as I could.

Every day after that, the line has either been busy, or drops before connecting to the automated operator. Each day since the 2nd, I haven't been able to even get that far.

Has anyone else experienced this? Are there other numbers I can call? Is there some sort of intense backlog at the NVC that would actually cripple their phone system for several days in a row? I'm so confused. >:

Thank you everyone! Much appreciated.

I need to start gathering all my documents for my interview in Montreal.

I didn't make a copy of the I-129F Package I sent to the USCIS. Ohhh #######.

Okay. Now, I do have all of those documents still ready to go. They're in a folder in a dropbox and they look exactly the same on the day I printed them out.

Could I simply have my fiancee (the petitioner) print them, sign them, mail them to me, and then I sign them and bring that with me?

Or will the signatures look different and will Montreal go Hey, what's with this kid?

Any help appreciated. Thank you guys. <3