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You have 2 pages of advice, is there something particular that you are still unclear about ?

Your wife needs to make a time line for the petition and send it in.

Proof that you were separated from your ex in Jan 2011 and that she moved out of the house would help.

What was the reason that you did not meet in Nigeria with family and that you did not marry there ?

Thanks for all your response my wife will try and put in a time line, Me and my ex wife got separated and i left Nigeria since then, i have been working here. we planned to do our wedding in Nigeria but during the time we planed it, my company got a new project in Bahrain which i was transferred there to go and manage it. And my wife leave have already been approved, and by that same time she got admitted into a nursing program which she is supposed to start towards the ending of her leave and she will not be having more time to spend with me when she visit. cos of her work and school program. so we decided to do the wedding here. we are planning to travel to Nigeria by this Dec Will this help?

Personally in my evidence submitted I would write up a relationship timeline and plug in those dates you just mentioned when wife filed, when you separated when you meet new wife, decided to have relationship, the visits, when you filed for your visas. This will help pull out all those mountain of pages the facts.

Here is an example of a timeline.

RELATIONSHIP TIMELINE

Minnie Mouse– Petitioner Mickey Mouse - Beneficiary

• May, 2008 – Meet (put in names here) on the telephone via an introduction by my close friend, Goofy,
• August, 2008 – Started e-mailing, chatting on Yahoo Messenger and talking on the telephone.
• November, 2008 – Relationship progressing to a serious level. Made trip #1 to Osaka, Japan. Met his family and friends.
• January, 2009 – Mickey proposed marriage over the phone. I accepted. We are officially engaged!
• February, 2009 – I file an I-129F fiancé petition for Mickey in the U.S. on a K1 Visa. I have kids from my first marriage and we thought it would be considerate to have them meet Mickey prior to marriage and be present at their mother’s wedding, therefore, petitioning for the K1 and not the K3 or CR-1.
• February, 2009 – Trip #2 to Osaka, Japan. Our engagement party!
• May 2009 – I-129F petition approved by the USCIS.
• July 2009 – Mickey’s interview at the U.S. Consulate in Osaka, Japan. Request made by CO for more photos and e-mails.
• August, 2009 – 2^nd interview at the U.S. Consulate in Osaka, Japan. Present many more e-mails phone records and photos documenting our relationship. Mickey’s visa application placed in Administrative Processing status.
• September, 2009 – Trip #3 to Osaka, Japan. Sweet reunion.
• November, 2009 – Request assistance from my Congresswoman – Carolyn McCarthy - to make inquiries on my behalf to the U.S. Consulate in Osaka, Japan regarding Mickey’s lengthy AP.
• December, 2009 – Case remains under Administrative Processing status.
• January, 2010 – I make a request of the U.S. Consulate in Osaka, Japan to meet with the investigator handling our case in hopes of expediting the lengthy AP period. Request granted.
• February 8, 2010 – Fraud investigators from the U.S. Consulate in Osaka, Japan pay a visit to Mickey’s parents house. His parents confirm that our relationship is genuine and that they support it.
• February 16, 2010 – Trip #4 to Osaka, Japan. Meet with fraud investigators at U.S. Consulate in Osaka, Japan. We are both interviewed separately and asked many questions pertaining to the details of our relationship. We believe all went well.
• March 2, 2010 – Mickey called to return to the U.S. Consulate in Osaka, Japan on March 23^rd (after almost 8 months of Administrative Processing).
• March 23, 2010 – Mickey’s visa application is denied. Reason for denial: Investigator did not believe I was committed to marrying Mickey within 90 days of his arrival in the States on the K1 visa. Why? Because at the Feb. 16^th interview with the investigator, I stated that I filed a fiancé petition instead of a marriage petition so that my kids could meet him first before we get married and be in attendance at our wedding. Investigator interpreted my words to mean that I needed to “understudy” my fiancé and that I wasn’t sure about marrying my fiancé.
• April, 2010 – Attempt to overturn denial while case still at the Consulate: Letter sent from my attorney – Marc Ellis – to the U.S. Consulate in Osaka, Japan along with affidavits from friends and family attesting to the fact that my intention was always to marry Mickey as soon as he arrived here on the K1. Attorney letter and affidavits never acknowledged by Consulate.
• April/May, 2010 – Plan our wedding.
• May 29, 2010 – Trip #5 to Osaka, Japan.
• June 1, 2010 - Get married!!!!!
• June, 2010 – Upon my return to the U.S., file an I-130 petition for my husband to come join me in the U.S. on a CR-1 visa.

I, Minnie Mouse, declare under penalty of perjury that the above facts and the above timeline between my husband and me are true and correct.

_____________________________

Minnie Mouse

ADDRESS

CITY, STATE ZIP

Executed on this _______ day of _______, 2010

RELATIONSHIP TIMELINE

Minnie Mouse– Petitioner Mickey Mouse - Beneficiary

• January, 2011- Got separated with my ex wife
• March, 2011 – Meet (minnie mouse) on fb,
• may, 2011– Started e-mailing, chatting on Yahoo Messenger and talking on the telephone.
• May, 2012- I Applied for visit visa, but denied cos of no strong tires and lack of travel history.my status then was married cos pending divorce case
• June, 2012- Re applied again for visit visa, also denied. lack of strong tires
• July, 2012- my final divorce with my ex wife was granted.
• December 2012 – Relationship progressing to a serious level. Made trip #1 to Dubai, UAE. she Met him and his friends.
• December 19, 2012– Mickey proposed marriage . I accepted. We are officially engaged!
• August 1, 2013 – Trip #2 to Bahrain where they got married and she met his mum
• September 2013- we are abt to start up Cr-1 visa. Please we need advice on how to over come the red flag.

godlove Thanks for your responds, i will update my timeline.

@@mirpeArL Thanks for ur replies, regarding to your question. the reason for our divorce is cos she was not being honest to me and she was being unfaithful,and also as me. actually the love and understanding was not there anymore. so thats why we decided to move on our own different ways. me and my wife now have been very good friends since 2011. when i started having issues with my ex wife.

Thanks dwheels76, for you quick respond. Here are the answers to your questions. i met my wife on fb, we begain as friends. then i was having issues with my ex wife things where not moving fine in our marriage, until june 2011 when she filed for a divorce and which was granted in july 2012. b4 then we where no longer living together cos i was living out side Nigeria and shes in Nigeria. We were separaeted, but my staus was still married cos i have not been offically divorced then cos our divorce case was still in court.

Hello Vj Family, Pls i want to know how i can overcome my red flags before going thru cr-1 with my wife. This are my red flags, i applied for a visit visa in april and may 2012 and i was denied two times, cos i have no strong ties. then my status was married cos my divorce case was still in court with my ex wife. finally i got my divorce papers in july 2012. in dec 2012, i got engaged to my fiance who i have been in a relationship since 2011. then we finally got married last month. shes is almost 10 years older. shes has not been married before and she have no child. currently she is carry our baby. she have made two visit to see me and my mum. so please i would like a constructive answers from experienced vjs , cos i cant stand to stay away from my family. she is USC by origin. i know i will get good advice on this wonderful forum, I am about to start the process but i dont want to make any mistake.

Big age differences are a Red Flag to the COs depends on alot of things the only requirement for a K1 visa is that you meet face to face at least 1 time in the 2 years prior to your filing so you have that but you will need to over come anything that they will think is for immigration only It depends on if you are still in child baring years, if you are different religion, race, etc... these are things you will have to address and just prove you have a relationship... just read others posts in the embassy review that might help you... Good luck and welcome to VJ.

thanks all, sorry for the delay in responds to my question. i am still in child baring age, we are of the same religion and the same race' is just that we have a less than ten years age differences.and i am coming over to be with him for a month during my leave so will this be ok?

Hello vj Family, i want to thank the house for their all the support and answers to all my issues. Please i want to ask a quick question. I started talking to my fiancee in march 2011 and we became couple in august 2011, i came to Qatar first visit to see my love in December 2012 and we got engaged in December 2012. I only spent one week because of my school and work stuff. Am about petitioning for him a fiance visa and he will be going thru us embassy in Qatar cos he lives and work there. mean while we have a little age difference, so please i want to know our chances of being approved and getting his visa to come over and join me cos the distance is really affecting us.I really miss him here. Please i really need urgent advice.

Does facebook chat qualify as the proof of ongoing relationship?

Thank you,

Jonny Vorn

I think so. I am getting ready to do this myself. From the instructions they want to see current contact. The messages are dated and actually took place so I don't see any difference from communicating through email or written letter.

Nash,

Hello all,

During the interview process, will my fiance' have to provide proof of education and/or degree? We are trying to make sure we have all of the documents we will need. He is working and living in another country and he will need to send away for this paperwork and we want to be sure it is needed.

Thanks!

Thank's you guys for the advice. We really appreciate it very much. This is alot of information to take in and we hope to have a successful journey.

If it says list all chlidren then list all children

No, the visa denial won't affect you. Just be truthful about it.

Please stop typing in all caps, it is difficult to read

good luck

i wont type in bigger latter next time. thanks so much for ur advice.

HELLO VJ FAMILY, I MUST COMMEND THIS FORUM IT IS A VERY WONDERFUL FORUM AND VERY EDUCATIVE. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS FORUM FOR MONTHS NOW. AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THE TYPE OF INFORMATION WHICH IS BEING SHARED HERE. I AM NEW HERE AND ME AND MY FIANCE IS JUST PLANING TO START FILLING FOR A FIANCE VISA. BUT MY FEAR IS THAT I WAS DENIED A VISIT VISA LAST YEAR 2 TIMES ON THE GROUNDS THAT I DON'T HAVE STRONG SOCIAL TIES AND THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY TRAVEL HISTORY. WILL IT AFFECT US? THEN I WAS MARRIED BUT SEPARATED 2011, WITH MY EX WIFE OUR DIVORCE WAS STILL IN THE COURT AND THAT WAS WHEN I MET MY FIANCE. SO WE WHERE NOT OFFICIALLY SEPARATED THEN B4 I WENT TO THE EMBASSY SO IN THE VISA APPLICATION I FILLED THEN MY STATUS WAS MARRIED COS WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN OUR FINAL DECREE. AND SHE WAS A SINGLE MUM B4 I MARRIED HER, SO I TOLD THE EMBASSY I HAD A DAUGHTER. AND NOW WE ARE OFFICIALLY DIVORCED AND WE HAVE GOTTEN OUR FINAL DECREE AUGUST 2012 AND SHE WENT WITH HER BABY TO THE BABY'S DAD. THE BABY IS NOT BEARING MY NAME. SO NOW I AM VERY CONFUSED COS AM ABT FILLING UP THE I-129F AND THERE IS A PART THAT STATES THAT I SHOULD LIST ALL CHILDREN. SO IF I SAY NO WILL IT AFFECT ME AT THE EMBASSY? OR SHOULD I INCLUDE THE BABY'S NAME PLS I NEED ADVICE ON THIS URGENTLY.