Foxblood

Congratulations!

Hi everyone! Just providing an update!

My wife received her 10 year Green-card today.

We appreciate all the help the people reading this forum provide =)

Update: So i am using the P.O.Box address for the USCIS in California.

I have two PO box addresses. Can anyone tell me which one is correct?

On my I-797E I have the following;

USCIS-California Service Center

P.O. Box 10590

Laguna Niguel, CA 92607-0590

I also see that people are using the following address for the I-751

USCIS California Service Center
P.O. Box 10751
Laguna Niguel, CA 92607-1075

Which address should I use or does it matter?

I think you're not getting much answers because people generally use USPS to send their I-751 packages, including RFEs. Did you ever find your RFE notice? If not, did you make a copy of it? I would send the RFE response in the return address that USCIS provided. USPS priority mail takes 2-3 business days depending on where you live and USPS express mail is a next-day delivery. In terms of price, USPS is cheaper than the courier companies.

The address you added on your first post is the correct address for courier services but again, I personally don't know of anyone who used courier so I cannot provide even the slightest guarantee that using Fedex/UPS will work for you. I myself used USPS and had no problems. Good luck!

I see - I guess I have had such bad luck with USPS delivering packages to my house I don't trust them. If the majority of people use USPS then I will use them as well. I still have the original and copies of the RFE =)

Thank you very much for the reply.

Finally bump for a little help.

Small bump for some assistance =)

EDIT: I was processed at the California USCIS server center. I am basically trying to find out if its safe to send my I-797E request for more evidence package to a physical address instead of a PO box. I am trying to confirm the address is the following:

USCIS California Service Center
24000 Avila Road
Laguna Niguel, CA 92677

Any help would be much appreciated!

Hi Everyone,

Dumb question time. My wife and i received a I-797E letter a couple of months ago and we have now gathered enough evidence to send it back. Should I send it back to the same address as the original I-751? They sent us an envelope with the return address on it but I missed placed it. I just want to confirm. Also - is it possible to use FedEx or UPS to send it back or do you have to use the post office? If so what is that address as I realize you cannot use a P.O. Box with FedEx/UPS.

Is it the following?

USCIS
California Service Center
24000 Avila Road
Laguna Niguel, CA 92677

As always thank you very much for the help =)

I suggest checking out these two threads:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/596669-received-rfe/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/220440-i-751-evidence/

We had the same issue, so the first thread is one I started a couple of weeks back. We just sent our pack today so fingers crossed.

One question: with the documentation you sent, how far back did it go? Initially, we sent bank statements for a few recent months, copy of tax return, recent copies of insurance, license, auto registration, etc.

This time we sent these additional items:

• IRS tax transcripts (not just copy of returns) for 3 years
• Wills
• Living Wills
• Power of Attorneys
• As many bank statements as possible (This time we went back to the beginning of the marriage)
• Auto insurance cards and bills (to beginning of when we co-mingled)
• Affidavits (not as strong, but still adds something)
• Travel itinerary for two flights/trips (not as strong, but still adds something)
• Auto registration. Two separate cars/titles, but at least they show same address (as far back as we had)

In addition, we used the cover letter to explain why my wife is not on the mortgage, utility statements and why we have separate auto titles. However, we still sent one copy of each of mortgage/utility bill so they can see the name/account numbers, and then in the joint bank account statements we highlighted the various payments going back to the beginning of the statements. (All of which we explained in the RFE). I'm not sure if they dig that deep, but can't hurt.

Also, presentation matters. Cover letter, assembling the packet properly, tabs, etc. If you haven't already, see here and here for how to assemble the packet.

Hope that helps and good luck!

Thank you very much for the reply. I apologize about not making the effort to respond to your excellent post! This was extremely helpful. We have gather a lot more evidence now and we should be replying to the I-1791E this week =)

Joint credit cards

Life insurance on each other as each others beneficiary.

Wills showing the other as beneficiary.

Pictures of you and her with family and or friends.

Receipts of any trips you took together such as boarding passes, receipts, pics of places where you vacationed.

Roger that! Thank you for the suggestions =)

When I received the letter I pretty much panicked and did not think.

We have a joint credit card. I suppose and can take a picture of both of the cards showing the same number

My wife has a 401K and I believe I am listed as the beneficiary.

My wife and I took a trip to Grangeville ID, last year so I suppose I can submit our itinerary and pictures of us together and vacation with family. (I know longer have the boarding passes)

I think I will take pictures of our drivers licenses as well

Does anyone know if I switch the electric bill to my wife's name if that would help?

Hi guys,

Last November my wife and I submitted to remove conditions on Residence.

I just received an I-797E, Notice for Action in the mail.

They are requesting more evidence.

This is what I sent them and according to the letter was accepted.

Bank Statements for our Joint Check and Savings accounts

Joint Auto Insurance statement

Joint Tax documents from the last two years

Joint Medical Insurance forms

Pictures of us together in front of our house.

I thought that this would be enough evidence but obviously it is not. Can any of you give me some more ideas for evidence?

I called our electricity provider and they will not send us a bill with both of our names included

I called our water provider and they will not send us a bill with both of our names included

I called my cable company and they will not send a bill to me with both of our names included

My auto insurance company will not send us a bill addressed to both of our names.

I purchased my house before we were married so she is not on the mortgage. Is it possible to add her name?

In the letter they suggested that I send them copies of both of our drivers licenses so I will send them that.

Would a letter from my electric company stating that we are both on the account work as evidence?

Does any have any good ideas about what other evidence I should send them?

Any help we can get would be very VERY much appreciated

-Signed a very worried husband!

I will reply to everyone later when I am near a computer, but for now we are done, she was approved in 5 minutes.

Excellent! Congrats!

Interview is in less than 12 hours, time to turn in for the night and prep for tomorrow morning. The future Mrs is a little nervous, but I am here to support her.

Good Luck =) You will be just fine. I remember how worried we were and it was easy. 10 minute interview and - DONE!

The hardest question my wife was asked was what is my favorite type of music!

Just wanted to provided an update on my situation. I hopes this helps other people =)

So my wife's mother went for her B2 Visa interview today and she passed with no problems =) The interview was in Chengdu, Sichuan China

They ask her the following: (My Mandarin is not the best so this is what I understood)

For what reason are you wanting to visit the United States: To visit my daughter and see how she is doing.

How did your daughter come to the United states: She applied for a K1 Visa and was accepted. She married her husband and they are making a life in the United States.

How can we be sure that you will return to China after the visit? I do not speak English so it would be very difficult for me to live in the United States. All of my family and friends are in China. I just purchased a brand new house in China. (she handed them paper work to show that she owns the house)

Where does your daughter live in the United States: (She cannot say it in English so handed them a piece of paper with the United States Address and other contact information)

Where does your daughter work: (she handed them an offer letter from my wife's current Job title and company address - she did not know how to say it in English and there is not a Chinese translation)

We are very excited! So far so good - now she has to get a flight here and make it past the POE.

####### this can not be true. there has to be a way to download the log. the version on my computer has a download chat history and backup option, except it is only compatible for use with an android phone. Me having and Iphone 6 it doesn't recognize. there has to be a way

From my experience it is not absolutely necessary to submit chat logs as evidence. My wife and I chatted using QQ and Yahoo chat but did not submit our chat log files. . That being said we did submit a large quantity of other evidence, pictures, letters, cards, etc. If you cannot get the logs and have plenty of other evidence and have followed all of the processes correctly you will be just fine =)

10 days. Interview on 2/16/16. Visa in hand 02/26/2016

Congrats! Looks like it is still taking around the same time as when my wife got her visa.

Hi Foxblood,

Was it 8 calendar days or 8 working days? and was this recently?

It would really be relieving to know if it only takes 8 days..

I read in CandleForLove that it might take about 15-20 days.

Hello =)

I am afraid to say but this was back in 2013. You can click on my timeline and see how long it took.

Interview was 1-3-13 and my wife received her visa on 1-11-13.

Sorry if this was misleading considering it was back in 2013. It is possible that it is taking longer now. I highly recommend you view other peoples timelines and you can see how long it took them to receive the visa

How long has it taken for you to receive the passport back with the visa...after being approved during the interview?

Thanks.

It took 8 days for my wife to receive her passport back =)

I got no problem throwing down $100 to ensure it gets there

Yep - that is exactly how I felt. As long as it gets there safely.

I would talk to the FedEx people and ask them what they think based on the address.

This might not help that much but I mailed everything to my fiance using FedEx and I had no problems. I mailed it to her work office as we thought it would be safer then sending it to her apartment. I did this multiple times and had very good success.

The only issue I had was that it was expensive. I provided all of the evidence and paper work and I believe it was over 100 USD for each of the two packages I sent her.

The FedEx delivery guy in China called my wife and was very careful to make sure she got the package. The address was written in English and FedEx promised me it would be no problem. Maybe you can go into a FedEx/Kinkos and ask them?

B2 visitors are routinely admitted for 6 months, no matter what they might have written on their DS 160...the COs know this all too well...again, trying to make verbal claims of what the applicant will or won't do mostly sounds hollow....it's their response to the CO's questions that matter, not some canned speech or desperate sounding rationales...she should answer any and all questions easily, truthfully, as best she can....repeated attempts to shove papers at the CO will not be productive. The COs interview people, not papers, and not you (via those papers). People forget that all too often. It just looks like desperation when applicants tried to push papers at me....unless I asked for them, I did not want them. But so many cultures believe otherwise, that documents, especially 'notarized ones' (woo hoo!) will somehow cause the CO to grant the visa.....but that is not the case (in the vast majority of interviews).

Roger that!

Thank you for the direct and honest responses to my questions =)

that is true...the abusers have only made it tougher for others....sadly, so many people have used semantics, with varying degrees of success, that their relatives use to obtain B2 visas...carefully couching the proposed visit in terms that bear no relation to the true purpose....but when applicants who said they were going to visit for, say a month, then wind up staying 6-12 (with an extension) try to renew their visas, they are often quizzed about the huge difference between what they said and what they did....and often, the story comes out that they were indeed working in some capacity (often babysitting so everyone else could go back to work)...guess what their chances are for a successful renewal? Yep. 0. And now, the consuls learn the new quaint terms that are being used against them....and guess what happens to the next batch of first time applicants who try the same word games? Who is going to be believed?

Sure, many are issued, and no doubt, many do not abuse the privilege....but lots do....and then your relative's success may depend on the focus of a particular CO...but you can only imagine how many letters 'promising' that my relative won't be working or babysitting, 'you have my assurance that...."...blah blah blah...are offered by applicants...which are just more window dressing...it will come down to what the CO believes....so, don't be surprised if her first application is denied....but enjoy life if she is approved and try hard not to allow any abuse of her visa nor give future COs more reasons to 'just say no.'

Roger that - thanks for the comments.

We will just assist my MIL with the process as best we can. Let her know to be honest about everything and provide the best evidence that she can. After that it will be up to the CO to make the decision. If she is denied then she will just have to apply again in the future.

What if she came to the United States and leaves BEFORE the baby is born? I mean the intention is to visit her daughter not baby sit for us after the baby is born. Maybe they would still deny her equally because people abuse the extension rules.?

Also - are shorter visits approved with more frequency? Maybe that information is not available.

This was something my wife and I had not anticipated when we completed the K1 Visa process.

regardless of cultural norms, a lot of foreign born spouses try to bring relatives to the US, from grandparents to sisters, to provide free child care for months on end, so that the foreign spouse can return to work and not have to shell out thousands for child care....and that ultimate goal does not coincide with activities that are allowed by B2 visa holders, no matter what semantics might be used to avoid stating the real reason for the visa request.

Sure - I guess those people who received a tourist Visa to the US under false pretense ruined it for the rest of us.

I am certain that I am not the only person with a foreign born wife in my situation. I would assume that not ALL tourist visa's are denied to people that wish to visit their relatives that have children born in the United States. I guess I could be wrong.

What I really wish is if I could talk to people that have successfully received their tourist Visa in a similar situation as mine just so I have more evidence that it is possible.

Hard to say...but too much 'window dressing' is counterproductive.

Fair enough - good point about the "window dressing"

I guess all she can do is her very best with the process and hope the CO does not deny the Visa.

From my research it looks like about 9% of tourist Visas in China are currently being denied. I think our chances are reasonable.

part of the challenge will possibly be for your MIL to convince a CO that she will not be babysitting so her daughter can go back to work and save a bunch of money....mere letters promising that she won't do so have no value, as anyone can write a letter that states anything and merely writing some promise on a piece of paper does not make that promise legally enforceable.

Not having a job to return to will also make it challenging....

Lots of people wrote letters claiming they were going to hire a nanny, for example....for me, such a letter was meaningless, as many of my former colleagues discovered....of the ones I knew of that had been approved, our fraud department called the US family and asked to speak to the nanny....you can easily guess how many times the nanny answered the phone! You can also guess how many times we were told, 'oh, she just stepped out to go to the grocery store...', and when we called back an hour later, we were told, 'oh, there must be traffic..' I've even made calls that were roughly midnight in the family's time zone, to be told that the nanny 'had to go to her parent's house for some reason...'...you get the idea.

So, no guarantees....on the positive side of the ledger, your wife got married, etc, via the K1 process instead of the ever popular B2->CR1 (mind change) visa route.

Thanks for the reply =)

Yep - those are valid concerns. My wife has three months maternity leave. I am thinking that if my MIL leaves at the same time as my wife's maternity leave ends that this may help convince them. Yeah - don't think writing letters making promises is what I would do. Maybe an official letter from my wife's employer letting them know she is taking the three months maternity leave? They can match that up with the date my MIL will leave back to China? They may not even ask her if she is pregnant but I imagine the CO will be smarter than that.

My MIL has two house that she owns in China. One is very new and she is still in the process the finishing touches so she can officially move in. I am unsure if property ownership would count for much when proving she wishes to return. As far as not having a job she is a 60 year old retired women who worked her entire life. I am hoping that they would understand that her not having a Job is simply because she already worked her entire life. She is also divorced so I am not sure if that will help or hurt her in this process.