PrincessHalo

i am trying to decide what are good proofs OTHER than the typical phone bills, emails, skype logs.

what are some things that will really really help. we were saldly denied recently with not convinced of relationship and we are refiling.

what can we do to put us over the edge? i am up for any ideas.

- meeting parents in 3rd country?

- family / friends letter support letter?

- parents skype screen shots?

Ramadan Kareem, taqabel Allah mina wa minkom ​

hi there

im sure you have read some posts of mine

but i didnt plan for a wedding, and its a good thing, we got denied, and it wasnt because we didnt have proofs of future wedding, the CO officer said he wasnt convinced, and asked my fiance more about him than us. and he seemed shocked that we only met once, and why we didnt just marry. seems like a silly question, i want to live in america and have a wedding here with my friends and family support. i enjoy living in america and i enjoy my rights, i just wish my country let me have the right to persiut of happiness by choosing who i want to live my life with!

anywho, we are starting over, and we wil have another visit, more time together, and letters of support from family.. that is my slip of advise to give to you. make sure you collect that stuff. I wish there was more info out there for us, not a lot of people going thru iraq. i dont know if thats good or bad for us

good luck to you

is it easy, they accept it? or to they take it but still as a ding against your case?

Hi, I am wondering if its possible to get approved for a visa if the petitioner has no job?

i am thinking to go marry and stay with him until the visa process is completed. thus i will have to quit my job. I would prefer to have a job here, trust me! but i think if he is working in his country and we save to come to usa, we can make it (with co-signer) until we find jobs in USA. And I would get to spend time with him to the interview.

thoughts?

Thank you, good luck to you too.

Our interview in New Delhi was not approved due to "not convinced" of relationship! Sucks because I am glued to my phone/computer. I cant put him down unless its for sleeping. lol. So we will try again only this time we ARE going through IRAQ embassy. I think home country will provide more a comfortable CO. We are sad we have to start over, but its the best way, to be able to see each other and try to gather more proofs than the first visa.

Oh well we plan on showing new photos, old photos, email docs, travel receipts, visa stamps boarding pass, marriage cert, Skype logs, yahoo logs, phone logs, hotel bills, parents letter of support, friends letters of support, proofs of family interaction, ring receipts, my mom consigned last time, I'm sure she will again, and I will stay with him up to the interview, provide proofs I am there physically to support us. If I can think of other items I will include. And instead of printing out examples like the 15th of every month, I will print out every day! I can't afford to miss anything this time.

Would a CR1 spouse visa have more weight / validity than a K1? Our fiancé visa was denied (not convinced of relationship) and we want to try again. We know the marriage one is typically longer in time to process, but I am wondering if it provides a better chance and evidence that we are for real and in it for the long haul.

We are leaning toward the CR1 now instead of another fiancé visa, and just wanted to research your thoughts

Many thanks again for all your help aNd support and kind words. After viewing your thoughts, We discussed what our ideal scenarios would be for the 2nd try and they were pretty close to the same thing / wish using CR1 with more time and visits, and documented family support. We will try to research more and check up on examples from others experiences & regional forums. So we can be ahead of the game this time.

Planning round 2..

Good luck to all and god bless !

Thanks , but at 29 and the pace of these processes, I don't want to be 80 by the time he comes lol

Sounds like you are both young and in college, best to let your relationship develop rather than rushing into marriage having met just the one time.

Ebunoluwa is right on with her advice!

Is there some reason visiting India is off the table? Obviously he currently has some sort of residency/long-ish term status there [otherwise he would not have been able to interview there]. Truth be told, I don't think any CO would ding you for not hanging out in Iraq given the safety issues there. But, you already have a relatively safe 3rd country option in India. [Look, I get he may not like it there for numerous reasons, it isn't everyone's cup of chai, but it is considered a somewhat typical place to visit with a decent and well known tourist industry - the more convoluted you make certain aspects of this journey, the harder the sell to the CO - you want this to be straightforward and logical as possible].

If you really need another option, Dubai/UAE areas seem to be easier for visas/visits for some people in that area....

India is out of the q. He graduated last month and his student visa expires at the end of the month, he will be going back home, and I won't be going there as we both agreed for safety reasons. He had an idea to work in one of the gulf countries so he is not sitting around idle. We would meet / and or marry there and reapply for CR1. That was one idea

Next is to visit again, continue to gather relationship evidence and photos together with family and then re file for a K1 or marry and file the CR1.

Whether to marry or not is not an overnight decision but takes some time to arrive at.

Be there for the next interview, even if they don't let you inside, he can give them your passport as proof that you are waiting outside and

would be glad to be seen if they have any doubts.

It will be hard to get to meet eachothers parents. Can they write letters showing their support? Does that help?

Thanks,

So I'm thinking my options:

appealing, but it looks like this case might not be appealable?

Moving to a 3rd party country, marry, stay there for a while and file marriage visa

Or... ? Other ideas

Should I find an immigration lawyer?

Thanks

All are entitled to suspicions, looking at this from a file / procedure standpoint. But I am confident in the man and the person I love, who is the most amazing man ever. Im sure previous marriage is not an issue. We are very close and very open and I believe in him, and in us. I am happy every day to love him and be loved by him. <3

Anyways, back on track and toward the topic " what do we do next"

Yea only once, the main reason is that we are both college students, so we were trying to save money by not traveling. It was so hard but we were doing our best to be patient for the benefit of our future. One bedroom apartment, part time job and college makes travel difficult.

But now we know we must try harder and make bigger sacrifices. No way no chance we are giving up.

no, neither of us were married before. being married is not the reason for the check box, its one of them, but it doesnt mean that it is all of them. its a broad check box

it can mean one or more:

-wrong legal document filed

-failed to convince relationship with proofs

-suspicion of immigrating not for marriage

-married still

i think he was checked the box for the first 2-3 reasons listed, but definitely not the last one. I am confident in this.

my fiance did do a lot of comparing to Iraqi consulate procedures and requirements, but we focused our efforts and attention on India. However all our research indicates that interviews are infact in Baghdad, not Jordan, as all their visa forms instruct to show up to the tower/greenzone in Baghdad to take a shuttle buss to the counsulate for the interview. So to say we didnt do our homework isnt fair. We worked hard to collect and validate and attest our evidences, just as im sure all of you have done with us.

its good to see your responses, being in a deep relationship we know how we feel and forget the view from the out side in. I am hoping we can process an appeal and change embassy, that would be ideal, however i see filing all over again might have to happen as well. Im still feeling a little lost what direction to go.

we were only able to meet once, we were in anticipation of the visa to be approved at any time, so we were saving the money for his trip to here. we were on the edge of crazy missing eachother, but we were trying to be strong apart to make it to be together. now we are broken and lost what to do next.

hmm. no divorce no kids, clean slates. he is muslim, so we were already expecting to be checked extra heavy, but felt confident with nothing to hide, i am 'white' and he is arab. we are only 2 years apart so no problem there.

Well boarding passes are a great idea but are not absolutely necessary if you don't have them because people can lose those. They won't expect you to travel all the way to see each other again just to obtain them. But if you have any primary evidence such as receipts, boarding passes, credit card bills etc. that put you and him in the same geographical location then collect all of those and send them to him. Also, another thing would be to show evidence of recent correspondence since you received the petition approval. You might also want to both write a new and updated letter of intent with it clearly dated and signed by both of you to indicate you are both still in a relationship and both still intend on marrying since the petition approval.

boarding passes, email volumes, chat logs, proof of first/earliest email, photos, our cell phone bills we got over seas for time/location, ring receipt, hotel bill receipts, letter of intent were sent with the original submission.

in the packet for the interview he head additional proofs he took what i had listed above, plus receipts of gifts he bought me on line that were mailed to my address, yahoo messenger, new letter of intents were written, photos together from when we met, letters and package tops to show mail addressed to and from each other with the stamp dates, email records taken over several months, skype logs over several months, phone chat records, facebook posts / photos, original engagement ring receipt and photos of it on, im not sure what else. we had a cosigner just incase. we had so much stuff.

he said the guy asked him to list the proofs and not really look at it, so he told him what he had and they took the forms and called him back in to say not convinced. almost 2 years talking for hours daily? this has been a long journey, and im ready to have him come home to me.

but i really think it came down to the fact that he was not interviewing in his own country. the man asked a lot of questions that my fiance said he felt the denial was coming. my fiance is iraqi citizen going to school in india, and just graduated recently with his masters, but we didnt meet in india, we took a holiday to Jordan, my bestfriend lives there, and i thought it would be good to meet her too if i was flying over the world. i could meet both at the same trip. but sounds the guy thought i flew to meet her and tour and not him! he kept asking why i didnt go to inida. well, i didnt want to go to india, i wanted to go some place else, to meet my friend and tour jordan with them. then he asked why didnt we marry in india. really? first because ive never been there, second we filed fiance. so many questions that were set up with negative tone.

anyways, what to do now. file in his home country? marry some place else and try again? how to appeal? get a lawyer?

Interview went today for my fiance in New Delhi, India. he said they said no due to lack of relationship proofs. I am not sure what more they wanted shy of me standing there (which they dont allow). he brought a stack of proofs. we made extras of everything and included so much to be sure we had it all. if we didnt know what to take we took all.

he took to the interview:

photos together from when we met,

letters and package tops to show mail addressed to and from eachother with the stamp dates,

email records taken over several months,

skype logs over several months,

phone chat records,

facebook posts / photos

engagement ring receipt and photos of it on,

the emails and call records are huge. not just a page or two, one day hold several pages of correspondence times several months. each topic had many pages of examples. the moment one wakes up we call and talk until the other has to go to sleep or work. we are talking / texting for several HOURS daily. i cant get enough of him. i miss him so much.

what do we do now? i'll never give up on him. help

yes i was going to post the same question, how long do they hold the passport to get the visa?

do we bring the xray to the interview?? thanks

its saying we need to complete DS-156, which is a NON immigrant visa form for K1 visas. this doesnt make sense., why?

Hi, My fiancee is going to have his interview in July. He is currently living out of country, and we are going through INDIA embassy.

The NOA2 took longer than expected, one of his police verification will be expired by the time the interview happens. He is concerned that they will reject the interview because of this paper. However it will not be expired for over 30 days, and he will not have made any re-entry to Iraq since he has obtained the papers. wich in my mind says if he hasnt returned, there will be no changes to the record. But still hes right that we dont want to give them an excuse to deny.

should he go get a new one?

thanks,

then i wonder why the embassy is saying in their 'packet 4' pdf to bring i864 to the interview? hmm. maybe i will call?