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Lets get back to my MAIN QUESTION: Have anyone got their certificates without surrendering their documents because of other reasons(stolen,lost..?) or know a good deal of what to do ?

I read about cases where people lost their cards and were still able to attend the oath. In your case, your card is not stolen but you have a valid reason since it is out for passport processing.

As I indicated earlier, just schedule an infopass appointment at your local USCIS office and get a direct answer from USCIS. Most likely they will allow you to attend the ceremony and just surrender the card at a later time.

I'm afraid your mommy has dropped you one too many times when you were still a baby.

The ONE and ONLY purpose of the N-600 and the ("Mini" Oath) ceremony is to have a piece of paper that allows you to get the VERY FIRST U.S. passport. Thereafter you can throw the $600 piece of paper away since it's worthless. The U.S. passport is the best proof of citizenship a human being can have. Period.

So if you became a US citizen by act of law, you don't and didn't need a Certificate to get a a U.S. passport. Duh!

Since you have applied for a U.S. passport already, there is no need, no purpose, no nothing for an N-600 and an Oath Ceremony. You go to the Oath, get your Certificate of Citizenship, and can immediately throw it away.

So why exactly have you tried so hard to flush $600 down the toilet?

Well, believe it or not, I read about a person who could not convince a DMV clerk that the US passport is sufficient proof since in their system he showed up as permanent resident

Many folks in the US have not seen a passport in their lifetime. But when you show them a certificate (which they also see the first time), they are magically convinced.

At the end, I do not think it is $600 down the toilet. It can really become handy.

I'm not sure as well.

My understanding is that the N-600 grant you a certificate, which ONLY PURPOSE is to prove your citizenship.

I was told that the N600 was actually NOT NECESSARY in my case, since I can apply passport with my mother, which I did, but didn't expect it to be coincident with the ceremony.

However my mom applied my N-600 long time ago. I missed one appointment before already; this is my rescheduled oath ceremony, and I don't really want to mess it up again.

Bottom line is, can I still do my ceremony without those documents?

You could schedule an infopass appointment at your local USCIS office and ask about your situation. Given that you already have applied for a US passport, they might be fine if you surrender your green card at a later time.

It sounds it may be best to file the N-600 for her daughters after my wife obtains her citizenship. In other words, wait for their mother to become a citizen first then file the N-600 based upon her approved citizenship.

Yes. First get your wife naturalized. Then apply for US passports for your daughters. Then apply for their N-600. The N-600 can take a while to process but meanwhile they will already have their US passports.

USCIS automatically switches the girls from permanent residents to citizens once my wife becomes a citizen or do you mean they must stay permanent residents until they turn 18?

USCIS does not do an automatic switch. What happens is that once your wife naturalizes and gets her naturalization certificate you can apply for US passports for your stepdaughters using their green cards and their mother's certificate. So your stepdaughters will get their US passports directly.

If for future use you want to have a back-up document besides the US passports for your stepdaughters, you can do the following: Once your wife naturalizes and gets her certificate you can apply for N-600 Certificate of Citizenship for your stepdaughters to USCIS. With this, they will get their own certificates as a separate proof of citizenship and they will not need their mother's certificate in the future.

Regarding the need for the N-600 there is a split opinion. Some people say just getting the US passport is enough, some say it is good to have a separate proof through the USCIS and that it "closes the door with the USCIS." The choice is yours. Either get only the US passports or get both the US passports and the N-600. BTW, the N-600 costs right now $600 so it is a budget decision as well. If you would ask my personal opinion, I am leaning to get the N-600 as well.

Hello everyone, I know it's still early to think about filing n400, but I sent a status request to the selective service last week. Today, I received a call from them and they told me that I am already registered since 2009, since I came to the USA. The gentleman will send me my card. My question is this will this cause any problem when I apply for the citizenship? I never claimed to be a USC. But I think my school registered me or the DMV?

When I entered the states I was 25 and I gained my PRS when I was 28.

Any input is appreciated

You should be fine. Contact the Selective Service Office and try to get information when and through which channel you got registered. Then try to get either a letter from that source or from Selective Services indicating that you have been registered accidentally.

As you pointed out, you were on a non-immigrant visa and you were not required to register.

Almost EVERY male living in the United States is supposed to register for selective service...

The OP is saying that he got registered when he was on an F-1 student visa which is a non-immigrant visa. Non-immigrant visa holders are not required to register.

The OP became a permanent resident at the age of 28 when he was out of the 18-26 window. So he did not have to register.

I am not sure I understand- if you are entitled to a US passport, you are already a US citizen, so no need for an oath ceremony.

I think they do a "mini" ceremony when you apply for N-600 Certificate of Citizenship for your children even when they have already US passports.

I'm still under age of 18.

I applied my U.S. passport early December together with my mom, who naturalized 2 years ago.

I got my Oath Ceremony next week Friday, and It says on the letter that I have to surrender " your alien registration card(and any United States travel documents) "

The problem is I've already surrendered my green card for U.S. passport application , and I haven't received my passport or the green card back yet.

I don't have my driver license as well, all I have now is my native country passport.

Do I must surrender my green card during the ceremony?

What should I do now ? Any advices?

Why do you have an oath ceremony? Did you apply for N-600?

One solution is that you can re-schedule your oath ceremony to a later time.

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Hi,

I am filling out the N-400 application. For my kids, should I mention their names as it appears on their birth certificates (they all have middle names) or should I just use their first and last names as they use only first and last names at school? If I have to use their middle names, should I just use the first letter of the middle name or should I write the whole name?

I use a computer to fill out the N-400 but is it also ok if I use a pen to answer a question I miss?

Thank you very much!!!

- Full name with full middle name as it appears on their birth certificates (and on their green cards I assume).

- Should be fine to make corrections with a pen but I do not think you will need it. I filled out the whole form with a computer as well. I think I used a pen just to sign it (and maybe date it).

Well, knowing that about 46 of those countries don't play along, and that one usually needs to get married, immigrate, be a resident for an average of 5 years, I'd say if someone starts out with 3 citizenships, is a Jew to add number 4 quickly at age 18, and then adds a new one every 7 years (if he can afford millions in spousal support), I'd say 11 or 12 is probably the maximum possible, if somebody would dedicate his life to enter the Guiness Book of Records as the person who held the most citizenships in life.

I rather would try to break Mick Jagger's record of having sex with over 1,000 hot chicks . . .

Well, 196 is an upper-bound. It does not mean that the upper-bound can be achieved. Sorry for being a math geek here

Wait a minute! Now that I think of it, there is one person who could actually get to 196 easily: Gerard Depardieu!

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Just re-reading your question.

You must have moved to and lived in the same state for at least 90 days prior to your application. So it is a 90-day window prior to your application. Previous visits or stays in the state do not count. Look at your official move date to the state, add 90 days, and then apply.

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I have been in Texas on business for 2 months( Sept-Oct) in 2012. I am now (Jan 2013) moved to Texas for good.

1. Do I still have to wait 3 months to apply for Citizenship?

2. Does my 2 months stay in Texas count towards accumilative 3 months in Texas to apply in a month?

Thank you.

Your official move date counts. When did you update your AR-11?

One strict answer is that it cannot exceed 196. That is the current number of countries

Hello all

Please help me I am about to send my N-400 Application for Naturalization base on the basis of five years of continuous residence as Lawful Permanent Resident next month around 02/19/2013. (my 10 years green card will be 5 years 02/15/2013)

I want to make sure (final) before I send out the application to USCIS.

All the document I will send:

1. N400

2. Check

3. Photo

4. Copy of Green Card

5. Divorce Certificate

Anything else I should send please help me. I have to send the tax transcript or not?

Thank you in advance.

Some minor corrections:

- Two photos

- copy of front and back of green card.

- copy of divorce decree/certificate and English translation (if applicable)

- 5 year residency applications usually do not require tax return transcripts unless you took a long trip (more than 6 months) out of the US.

Also read the following USCIS checklist to check if you need to include additional documentation: http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/attachments.pdf

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Hi.

I have my oath ceremony on january 17 and want to apply for a passport to get it in 1 day. I will travel on january 31 and will have airplane ticket before the oath.

How should I apply to get the passport in 1 day? Where should I make a personal appointment? And what documents are needed?

All the information can be found here: http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html

You need to locate the nearest Passport Agency.

As far as I know I think you are fine unless you get another citizenship and serve as an officer in a foreign army. Maybe others on this forum can chime in. To be absolutely sure I would ask an immigration lawyer.

My wife is an Iranian citizen by birth and a Swedish citizen by naturalization, she is currently residing in Sweden.

She will be residing with me in the USA when her Immigrant Visa (I-130) is finalized and therefore eligible to become an American citizen after meeting the requirements.

I am a Canadian citizen by Birth, and an American citizen by naturalization.

My parents were born in the UK, so I therefore have birth rights to become a British citizen.

How many citizenship's can one person have?

Is the number of citizenship's based on agreements between individual countries?

Is the Department of State the best agency to contact regarding this?

You can be a citizen of many countries without a limit as long as those countries allow/recognize that. So it depends on those countries citizenship laws.

Regarding the US, the Department of State "recognizes that multi-citizenship exists." So they are OK with it, though not very happy if you read the wording carefully. In a nutshell, according to the US you can hold passports of different countries, no problem. However, for the US you are officially a US citizen only (regardless whatever other passports you carry) and hence, you need to leave and enter the US with a US passport.

I agree with you guys every bit. However, it still surprises me that how he got away with it. We are not talking about days or months. Its years. How in the world ISO did not know. They have the access to all this information. anyway,, it is the past now

If this is indeed true it is a very very isolated case and must have been fallen through the cracks. We know of people being declined just because they were missing a few days!!! Your cousin should be on the edge since if this is discovered his citizenship will be taken away for sure no matter how many years have passed.

Anyway, I am repeating what I posted earlier in a clearer way: Don't be stupid and never lie on government forms and to government officials!

Thanks Everyone for the reply. Unfortunately, tons of people get away with a lot of things. This person who got away with his citizenship for not being here for 5 years happened to be lucky. I would not say he lied, he knew what he was doing, and he got away with it because ISO was not doing his properly. Simple as that..

If you do not put down an absence on the N-400 form it is a lie, period. Because it means that you state that you were in the US for that time period. A lie is a lie. Simple as that...

And yes, this person got away this time. That does not mean that he is safe. Just do some research on revoked citizenships and you will see what happens if it is discovered that he lied on his N-400 form.

A 9-month absence has no bearing on your father's ability to naturalize. A false statement would.

Tell your cousin that it's people like him who give Indians a bad name. I wish him the worst in life.

So what happens to this cousin once his US citizenship is revoked? I guess he becomes without any nationality since he is not a citizen of India anymore after becoming a US citizen (India does not allow multi-citizenship). So I guess sending the cousin back to India is not an option.

Everyone: I am filling out the N-400 for my Dad. My dad is eligible for the 55/15 Rule ( Can take the Civics test in native Language. The question I have is that My dad stayed away from the U.S in 2010 for about 9 months, and continued to stay here in the U.S all throughout the year 2011 and 2012. He has been a green card holder since 1998. Staying away as long as 9 months, would that be a problem OR not shown in the application and pretend that we forgot to put it down. The reason I said this was, one of my cousin who has been here for the past 5 years, and spent more than 2.5 years overseas for school, and got away with it by not placing it on his N-400? All suggestions and opinions welcomed..

Repeat after me three times:

Don't ever lie to the USCIS!

Don't ever lie to the USCIS!

Don't ever lie to the USCIS!

And did I mention it before?

Don't ever lie to the USCIS!

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Does anyone from Chicago field office, who have filed N-400 application on September 2012, have got interview letter? My Priority date is September 13, 2012 and Did my Bio on Oct 5 2012. I am still on "Initial Review" stage. I think they have forgot about my application. I am desperately waiting to be citizen so that I can upgrade my wife's I-130 petition.

Looking at the trackers for Chicago, it looks like it can take up to 4 months to the interview date after the bio date.

Its no big deal. My wife became a USC in 1994. We didnt know we had to notify ss until a couple of years ago. Went over there and took care of it. The main effect is if you have a disability claim as the agent explained. Hopefully that wont ever happen.

Another major benefit is that your SSN is linked as US citizen. So whenever your SSN is run for a background check it shows up as US citizen and eases your burden of proof via showing your naturalization certificate or US passport. It is good to have all government agencies up-to-date.

can uscis accept to the account transkript ?? or what kind a different between account and tax return transkript ? both of them are getting from irs by wanting..

As far as I know USCIS wants a tax return transcript.