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N-400: JULY 2011 Applicants

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USCIS Dallas/Lewisville, Texas Lockbox

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Mateo...............|07/01/11.|--/--/--.|07/06/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Miami, FL

huniebee............|07/01/11.|07/08/11.|07/16/11.|08/12/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Washington, DC EF 07/21/11

VjourneyMan.........|07/02/11.|07/08/11.|07/12/11.|08/09/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Newark, NJ

Neetu(rajee)........|07/05/11.|07/12/11.|07/12/11.|08/11/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Newark, NJ

Arlington...........|07/08/11.|07/15/11.|07/12/11.|08/19/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Washington, DC

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USCIS Phoenix, Arizona Lockbox

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Converse34..........|07/01/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|San Francisco, CA

AJ and JJ...........|...??....|...??....|07/06/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|San Francisco, CA

Cardamom............|07/06/11.|07/11/11.|07/20/11.|08/02/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Los Angeles, CA bio rescheduling

Aminesbaby..........|07/06/11.|07/13/11.|07/11/11.|08/04/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Kansas City, MO EF 07/25/11

Sharky..............|07/14/11.|--/--/--.|07/20/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Seattle, WA

Boilermaker.........|07/16/11.|07/20/11.|07/20/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Phoenix, AZ

Bharat..............|07/18/11/|07/26/11.|--/--/--.|08/17/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Cincinnati, OH

Shakil..............|07/18/11/|07/22/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Santa Ana, CA

Lili................|07/19/11/|07/28/11.|07/21/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Seattle, WA

okwhatever..........|07/23/11/|07/29/11.|07/26/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Los Angeles,CA

Canary..............|07/25/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|San Francisco, CA

[/size][/font]NickNNora....... |07/20/11/|--/--/--|07/28/2011.|08/15/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|Cleveland, OH

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USCIS Lincoln, Nebraska Lockbox

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utz119..............|07/08/11.|07/18/11.|07/22/11.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|--/--/--.|New York City, NY

I sent it priority mail with signature confirmation (so I sent it to the Lewisville, TX address for 'couriers' rather than the regular Dallas address)

thats what we did... got the NOA about a week later.

First off you need to stop worrying about CPS. Report the abuse to the police, and press charges. Explain that you didn't k now about it until after she had left. The children need to know that people who do this sort of thing will be punished. It will help with healing. If she has criminal charges against her, she won't be able to get citizenship. This will help get her sent back, and prevent her from scamming another family. Plus, you need to see if you can get counselling for your children. There are organizations that will provide it free of charge -- ask the police... as a victim of a crime, often you can talk to a victim witness coordinator who will help procure these things for you and your children. Or call an abuse shelter and ask where they could get some counselling. or guidance counsellors at school. The important thing is, they -- and you -- need help. Immediately. Their mental and emotional state is more important than any money or debt. YOu can file for bankruptcy. Hpefully it will all work out.

thanks all... is nice to get a general idea of how long we have to wait. we know a couple in our area (ukraine) who are going thru process as well, and have been waiting for a few months... good luck everyone.

hey sent N-400 off to Pheonix lockbox, according to USPS, it was delivered two days ago... was just wondering how long it been before ppl hear anything back after sending off N-400. how long have ppl been waiting from NOA to time they actually get an appointment? Thanks.

he's using emotional abuse to try and manipulate and control you into feeling so guilty that you can't back out. If he really is suicidal, the best thing you can do for him is get him mental help. Here is a man who tells you he can't go back to his country because divorce is frowned upon in his culture, but he's walking way from his wife and kid and not even willing to make things work? Most likely if his country isn't big on divorce, then they wouldn't be big on abandoning your wife and kid. You also need to think about your daughter. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES get her a passport. If she already has one, get it and lock it up in a safe place like a safe deposit box at the bank and do not let him know about it. he is coercing you to get him a visa by threatening suicide. what if he threatens to harm you or your daughter? There have been people who have killed family members and then themselves as well. No one is saying to just shrug off what he is threatening to do. Take it seriously. Take it very seriously. Call the police, tell them he is threatening to kill him self and you are worried about his (and possibly your) safety and he will get the help he needs. Staying in the relationship because he says he will kill himself if you do not only puts you and your family in danger. If he's serious about suicide he's mentally unstable right now and needs professional intervention. If he's bluffing, he's dangerous anyway. What if he tries to take your daughter to control you or help him get the green card. You need to be safe and he needs to be either locked up or deported. please be safe.

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Good luck!

just sent in N-400 application yesterday via Priority mail so hope to get email NOA in a few days. Can't wait.

I had a question about dual citizenship for our US born children (dad is UK). From what i understand they could also be citizens of UK because their father is -- but am wondering if anyone else has applied for this for their children and what process was. not such a big deal now, but might be useful when they are older, and want to know if anyone has done this. thanks.

Having kids with your US citizen spouse is extremely great evidence, ha, bring you spouse and the kids along. What makes that an extra long day for me, is the Mall of America, wife and stepdaughter go crazy in there. I would too, if they sold machine tools, car parts, but last time, found Dora the Explorer and Swiper the Fox dolls for my granddaughter. OH MAN!!!

lol, yeah, kids are pretty good proof that you are living together as a couple. I suppose the fact that when he had his first interview for his conditional residency, i was heavily pregnant with our first son -- our IO barely even looked at our paperwork. Since we are in Ohio now, we'll probably go to the zoo with the kids or something ... i'm assuming we'll go to Cleveland.

North east ohio here..we will prob next year start our naturalization process...

Good luck to you guys,..

Good luck to you too! We are about half an hour from Canton. Will be nice to have the final step completed. Hubby is going to get photos right now and then we can send form out.

Marshfield, our AOS at St. Paul was wonderful, but encountered a "misplaced" application with my wife, and a "miscommunication" with my stepdaughter that caused some delay. But nothing Feingold or Kolh couldn't handle.

They have a new office manager now, even giving some same day oaths, you may be lucky. And they do have some very nice IO's, hope you are lucky there too.

Think JustBob is thinking about the five year, need practically nothing for that, my stepdaughter just went through that. Application, check, copy of both sides of her green card, and that was about it. Did get her four years of tax transcripts just in case, her IO didn't want to see that. But he made an issue as to whether she paid her traffic fines when she was a minor. One was 86 the other was 52 bucks, that caused her delay. But then they sent us a letter asking for proof she never had her drivers' license suspended and to answer battery charges when she was 17 months old. That was absurd to say the least.

With marriage a quite a bit more, marriage certificate, proof of spouses US citizenship, all of your prior marriage divorce papers, both of you, if any, three years of transcripts, joint lease or home ownership, vehicle joint ownership, bank accounts, insurance, just a lot of proof you are paying bills together kind of thing for a happy marriage. I think they got off that joint utility bill kick, but never know whats' next. Also require a state ID now, crazy since you need a green card to get that in Wisconsin.

Thank Nick -- I don't really think it will be a problem, haven't had any issues so far, so am not worried about it... mostly concerned with how long it will take. its funny what the IO can decide to ask for though, isn't it. I'll send what we have...(tax returns, mortgage, ours and kids birth certs, marriage license, joint bank statements) if they want more, they can ask. Haven't been RFE'd in past, so fingers crossed that we wont be now.

No idea what checklist you are referring to; I haven't found one in all my time searching that subject that would suggest such nonsense, but, hey . . . you may have found such a guide somewhere and of course you are welcome to send as much paperwork as you like to them.

As Jesus said: I can guide the blind but not if they run in the other direction.

Looks like you don't need any advice from people who have walked the walk; just send them everything you have and please forgive me for trying to open you eyes.

Addendum:

Before clicking the ADD REPLY button I made sure that the forces or hackers haven't changed the VJ Guide to naturalization and--what a relief--they haven't. You might want to read that guide; it's a pretty good one.

Bob, I pointed out that you were rude and you still are. this is the list i was referring to, and for the 3 year naturalization process based on marriage to an american citizen, the following was suggested. http://www.visajourney.com/content/naturalization_guide . Perhaps you should follow your own advice and check things before attacking someone who you don't even know.

Information you need for marriage evidence is under the http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=480ccac09aa5d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

website entitled, "Download Document Checklist, Current Fees, Naturalization Eligibility Worksheet (1KB PDF)"

Unfortunately, not meeting an experienced board, but just an individual officer, and under the additional evidence, can only guess if that IO can distinguish the legal difference between an OR or an AND.

Could assume they mean OR when you send in your application, but assume AND and bring in all those original documents for your interview to save another trip and delay. From our experience, apparently their is no requirement that IO's read all of the attachments and latest instructions. So you get a decision cannot be made at this time. Like bringing in a total redundant state ID card or proof you paid all of your traffic fines. Not even specified in the M-476 manual, instructions, or the attachments.

In our experience, had an IO that didn't even want to see our original evidence, then another that wanted to see all of it, plus asking for a completely worthless joint utility bill as additional evidence. Can't argue, they have the power of life or death, but we were prepared. Any utility company doesn't give a damn whose name is on the bill, they go after the property owner. So Whatever name you give them, they will put down. But yet an IO wanted to see that, surprised, we had one.

Thing is, you just don't know what kind of IO you will get and whether they got up on the wrong side of bed that morning or not. So best to be prepared for the worse.

You would love to ask, how in the hell do you think we got that green card in the first place in regards to US citizenship of the petitioning sponsor or previous marriages. But don't dare state that, just smile and show it.

hey what part of wisconsin are u from? We were in the Eau Claire area... actually only an hour and a half away from st. paul, so we went to st. paul too. our experience was not difficult at all -- sorry you had such a frustrating experience!

Hi NickNNora - welcome to VJ!!!

If you are thinking about applying now, make sure you comply with the 3 month waiting rule once you've relocated and the new location that is serviced by a different district office. The M-476 guide has a section that talks about it so make sure you go over it and understand it.

Thanks -- we actually moved here last year. i"ll be sure to check that section out -- we updated on new address, but will make sure i didnt' miss anything anyway.

You need the printed out form, a copy of your Green Green Card, 2 passport sized photos, your passport, and a set of tax transcripts. How does that even remotely--I mean in a got've-got-to-be-sh*tting-me kinda way--compare to any immigration process you went through so far?

okay bob, sorry you got up on the wrong side of the bed, but the checklist i saw said i should send stuff to prove we were married, and the more the better. whatever. glad it looks easier, but you don't have to be so rude about it.

Hello all -- Nick (UK) and Nora (US) here. Nick's just starting the naturalization process -- has been a permanent res. for about 3 years now. Have been married since Dec. 04 -- came on K1 visa. 6 years and two kids later, looking into making next big step. Would make things easier. We are in Ohio -- just recently relocated from Wisconsin... wondering if there's anyone else in north east ohio area? From the stuff posted here, it pretty much looks like we have to send all the same paperwork that we had to send for visa and green card (which we have all together), but it looks pretty straight forward. How is it going for everyone? Will probably post questions as they come along. Just wanted to introduce ourselves and say hello.

Nick and Nora