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Tye & Shirlei

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  1. Hello VJ, I will be going to Brazil for the New Year; when I return I will bring my fiancee back with me. We are planning to be married as soon as we get to Salt Lake (Jan 14). I noticed the items in the K-1 chart show applying for the SSN is just before getting the marriage license. Is my fiancee required to have her SSN before we can be married???

    Thanks,

    Tye

  2. Ok,

    So my fiancee has her interview in Rio in little more than a week. Our question is about the paperwork from the gynecologist. He said that there is no need for one of the exams the consulate wants to see. Is that possible?

    Then as far as the paperwork she was told she would have to wait. That was a month ago. What do we do?

  3. The biggest issues from these arise when neither spouse is willing to convert, and one spouse doesn't want the other spouse's religion practiced in the home. For example, Buddhism is largely an individual belief system that doesn't compel it's believers to convert other people. Buddhists can usually get along fine in a relationship with a non-Buddhist. The conflicts arise when the non-Buddhist spouse refuses to allow the Buddhist spouse to have their idols in the home or to pray there. I've seen relationships between American Christians and Vietnamese Buddhists fall apart over these conflicts. My wife is Buddhist but I'm agnostic. This works out well for us because I have no problems with my wife setting up her altar in our home and praying every day, but she doesn't expect or require me to believe in any of it. I'll participate in some of the rituals for a group event like a funeral, but everyone knows I'm doing it out of respect and not because I believe in any of it. So far, everyone has been fine with that. I've even had people thank me for it, saying that they know I'm not a Buddhist, but they appreciate the respect. I guess it would be different if I was a devout Christian.

    There is a difference between the LDS concept of the "Godhead" and the traditional Christian concept of the "Trinity". The concept of the "Godhead" is more a counsel of separate beings. The concept of the "Trinity" is that they are aspects of the same being. One of your church elders would be able to explain the differences better than I could. I'm no expert on the LDS church, and I've never managed to get all the way through the Book of Mormon, but everything I've read about the LDS church has always emphasized that they don't share mainstream Christian belief in the "Trinity", and are not considered trinitarian.

    Thanks,

    I do understand the Godhead beliefs in our church, I am an Elder, I guess I didn't understand trinitarian....

    Thanks again :-)

  4. Mormons believe the "Godhead" to be a social unit consisting of three beings - God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, with God being the superior of the three. Trinitarians believe that all three are separate persons but part of a single God, all co-equal, as in "God the Father", "God the Son", "God the Holy Spirit".

    You are correct in that we Latter Day Saints (Mormons) believe in three beings, God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. But we also believe together they form the Godhead, one depends directly on the other. God the Father is the literal Father of our spirits. Christ lived and died for us all atoning for our sins to allow us to be resurrected, and giving us a chance to return to the presence of our Heavenly Father. The Holy Spirit is the means at which we communicate with our Heavenly Father, He also comforts us and helps us choose the right. They are distinct personages and all one at the same time, this is a little confusing without faith. We must rely on and have faith in Christ and be receptive to the Holy Spirit to be true followers of Jesus Christ.

  5. Excuse me, but the Catholic and Baptist traditions are BOTH Trinitarian, i.e., the both view the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as a part of the Godhead.

    This would also include Episcopal/Anglican, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, most pentecostal/charismatic, including the majority of non-denominational churches.

    The important thing is to learn of each other's beliefs, finding the points you both have in common. It can be more difficult, but it's not impossible.

    Bruce

    Latter Day Saints (Mormons) also believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all part of the Godhead......:)

  6. Correction. Both Catholics and Baptists are trinitarian, though one sect of Pentcostals is not (the Oneness Pentecostals). Non-triniatarian's include Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Scientists, and Unitarians.

    Anyway, I've never heard of this being an issue at the consulate in Manila. I would assume that the majority of beneficiary's there are Catholic and a substantial percentage of the petitioners are not.

    What do you mean "triniatarian"???

    I ask because I am LDS, mormon as you say, and I have heard the LDS religion refered to as trinitarian before from non-LDS people

  7. That's like saying "If I build a house, it might be destroyed by a fire.....well then I guess I shouldn't build the house"

    I disagree so hard with that. A lot of people who "fall in love" are blinded by "love" and don't think rationally or think everything is storybook ending. Any rational person should not only think about "what if this ends in divorce", but also weigh their options if such thing were to occur. Especially with the legality of the I-134. It's not wrong to be a rational person who covers all the bases.

    We all have our opinions, mine just happens to be different than yours. I have been through a divorce and know from experience that when you go into a marriage thinking "if it doesn't work out there's always divorce" your going to get a divorce....

    I look at things spiritually now too, so I listen to Christ......

    :-)

    That's like saying "If I build a house, it might be destroyed by a fire.....well then I guess I shouldn't build the house"

    I disagree so hard with that. A lot of people who "fall in love" are blinded by "love" and don't think rationally or think everything is storybook ending. Any rational person should not only think about "what if this ends in divorce", but also weigh their options if such thing were to occur. Especially with the legality of the I-134. It's not wrong to be a rational person who covers all the bases.

    Nothing like a house!!!!!

    :wow:

  8. My Fiancee has her interview on October 31 and we need a co sponsor still!

    BUT... I am a little confused, I was told by an acquaintance who brought his wife from the Philippians that I need a I-864, Affidavit of Support not an I-134 Affidavit of support form. He also said a co-sponsor will need to submit an I-864A in the place of the I-134.....

    What is the proper form??

    And what is a OF-167 financial support document???

    Please help me understand ..... :wacko:

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