DavidandIrina

Call the consulate and ask for an extension. If they cannot do that then you will file a new I-129f with explanation and request for waiver of the "two year rule". It will be granted. In the meantime do a CRBA for the child with the consulate and get the child a US passport

My daughter has a passport already, I got that done back in March of this year. So she can come whenever she chooses when she is old enough to choose :-P

As to the visa, I wrote to the embassy and this is what they wrote back (useful for anyone else in a similar situation):

"Thank you for your inquiry. We cannot extend expired visas. Your fiancée should schedule an appointment through the Call Center and apply for the visa reissuance procedure.

Sincerely,

Public Liaison Unit

Consular Section

U.S. Embassy

Kyiv, Ukraine

fax (38) 044 521 - 5425"

So Irina will have to go and have a meeting with them to get a reissuance. I don't know how long that process takes, but at least it doesn't necessarily mean starting again from the beginning with sending in the I-129F.

David

What has the Embassy said to these questions?

I haven't asked the embassy yet. I've been in polling mode to see what the general consensus says first :-P But you are right I should just call them and ask which would be the most simple and direct route :-P

They are closed now but maybe I'll give them a call tomorrow.

So long story short, my Ukrainian Fiancee and myself have had a wild roller coaster of a relationship over two years. Anyways, I got her a fiancee visa, she got it, but during that time she had our baby so she didn't immediately come here. We've had good times and problem times, but regardless, the visa expired April 20th and she didn't board the airplane so she's still there and I'm still here but we have rediscovered that we still have strong feelings for each other.

So I'm not really throwing out the relationship details specifically because I need to know my options at this point. The Fiancee Visa expired April 20th, but I've heard that you can get extensions, however I didn't apply for an extension earlier, so I don't know if they would grant one now without (almost a month later) some just cause and then I don't know how long the grace period would be if they did offer an extension. Does anyone know?

Also if it has expired and they don't offer me a grace period extension, do you know how long it will be until I can reapply for another one for her? Would it be faster at this point to go there and marry her and get a wife visa instead?

Such drama!!!

David

Actually, can we end this topic or lock it? I think I have the information I came for. The arguing is kind of depressing.

Wow, some intense people here.

I thank everyone who has been putting in a good word for me. No I'm not some disgusting man running for the hills. I wouldn't be going back to see them in a week and a half if that was the case. I've paid for the birth ($1000.00), and paid for a lot of other things as well as sent plenty of things for the baby including toys, clothes, diaper creams and lotions, and other things she would need. I just don't want to walk into another legal nightmare having had a divorce 3 years ago and lost half of my net worth despite still being a half time parent of 3 kids under the age of 7. I think I have reasons to be worried and I'd like to know what my options are, hence why I started this thread. I thank everyone who has been suggesting things along the way.

God bless

David

Maybe it's just me but this is an odd set of circumstances to believe. You say you "dated for a year." What does that mean? You lived over there and dated her continually? You made a number of visits over there to see her? And when did you file for a K-1? Those take awhile to secure...so you dated for a year and filed for the K-1 which she now has in hand? When did the baby arrive during this timeline? If she got pregnant, and you went along with that plan, why didn't you just marry her?

Something just doesn't add up here. And what did you mean you got her "a full visa?" Not sure what that means.

Anyway, if you're for real, I'd do the DNA and then search your conscience. I will say...between your craziness to go along with this scheme and your Ukraine woman and her weirdness and dubious behavior, the baby girl has my sympathy and concern.

I met her online randomly through her friend March 2010. We talked daily through skype and sometimes on the phone until October 2010 when I went to see her. We kept talking daily and then I went back to see her in February 2011 this time with an engagement ring and plans to marry her. I later applied for the fiancee visa in April 2011 and received the NOA2 in October 2011. She did the final interview and received the visa in November 2011. She gave birth to Mary Catherine on November 22nd 2011. We've been in a holding pattern since. In May 2011 she and I had a huge fight over having a prenuptual agreement, to be honest. She kept telling me the different reasons she'd divorce me -- if she was bored, if she was unhappy, if she didn't love me anymore. I've already went through the cleaners once and I'm pretty well off despite it so going to the cleaners again didn't sound like a good idea. Anyways I asked her for a prenupt and she totally went psycho on me saying that a Ukraine man would never say that to a woman, that she hated the USA and never wanted to be here, etc. So we've kind of been in a holding pattern since. I think our fundamental trust is severely damaged. I don't honestly know her intentions, yet, in my heart I still love her and the baby.

BTW I have 3 children already and I love my children dearly. I fought hard to get 50/50 custody and have them every thursday/friday/saturday/sunday. I am very happy raising them on my own and enjoy every second of it. I just feel sad I'm missing the opportunity to raise my daughter in Ukraine. I don't know if she is mine, but in my heart she is mine.

This saga has taken an interesting turn. Maybe I'm worried about nothing.

She has claimed that she has found that she can apply for some guardianship and she can sign the ex husband as the legal father. She is saying that I'll have no rights and she can't leave the country without his approval. But as many of you have mentioned, maybe he IS the father. :-P So I'll let her do as she wishes.

Thanks a lot this is just the information I was looking for. I didn't realize that the USA had child support agreements with other countries. Doh. I found the official web site. I guess I really should think twice before signing anything and definitely get the DNA test. Anyone know how to do a DNA test in Ukraine? I guess I could buy a test here, take it there and take a swab and bring it back here to know for sure, I just don't know how long the DNA sample is good for and I have a 17 hour flight back.

And like I said, she's been married twice before (no kids though). Supposedly the reason that she needs me to sign the paperwork is that she finished up the divorce process from her previous husband (she supposedly married him to get some fancy mortgage for a downtown kiev apartment because she is a scientist and it was a special married scientist loan). So anyways, if the birth of the child is within 1 year of a divorce, the previous husband is assumed to be the father by this law. However, the previous husband obviously wouldn't sign the paperwork and when she went to get the birth certificate herself she was told she couldn't because of the date of her final divorce, etc.

The baby is a spitting image of me, but you guys are right, a DNA test is in order.

Some countries (not Ukraine) have a child support agreement with the US. Here is a link: http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/support4kids/abroadforuscitizens.html As you can see from the link though, any country could be added to the list any any time. I'm not sure how child support would work right now, so I don't think she wants that, I think she wants USC for the child. Are you sure the child is yours? Unfortunately unless you were there all the time it's likely she was sleeping with other people at the same time as you (especially if she's trying to scam you). I suggest you undertake a DNA test before you even THINK of signing anything. She could be trustworthy but women are the ONLY one who know for 100% sure they are the parent of a child so its your right, and it's common sense, to check first.

I think she's lying about the birth certificate, I've never heard of needing to know the father to get a birth certificate but someone from Ukraine will tell you for sure if this is true. I would say she wants you to sign the CRBA (citizenship) documents.

I personally wouldn't go there at all. Why can't she mail you the required documents so you can look at what she wants? Someone will come along and tell you more of the legalities but I wouldn't risk going there. No way, no how.

So I have a very odd topic, but seeking some knowledge.

I met a Ukrainian and we dated for well over a year. We planned to get married and I managed to actually secure a full Fiancee visa for her. She hasn't used it yet. Anyways, she begged me to make her pregnant because she wanted to have a baby as fast as she could. She got pregnant and had a baby girl who lives with her and her parents in Ukraine. Since then she and I don't talk much and we have fought a lot since she decided she hates the USA and wants to stay.

Anyways, she wants me to go there to sign a paper that says that I'm the father. She says that she can't get a birth certificate without my signature. However, I was wondering if this makes me financially responsible in any way or if she'll have me arrested there or in the States if I don't cough up money? I would obviously understand that if I was in Ukraine in the future I could be arrested and forced to give her child support, but living in the States, I don't know if they can "get" me. However, I feel responsible for my daughter to sign the papers that would get her health care and other necessary things.

Before you all feel sorry for her, understand that I would have been her third husband, and she was going to use me as a skipping pad to an American job here. The word "manipulative" comes to mind.

Advice? (besides talk to an attorney)

Actually if your advice is to talk to an attorney, can you recommend a good one?

David

When did you get your NOA1? I see you haven´t made your timeline....

I got my NOA1 on April 29th. I got my NOA2 actually August 26th. Took less than four months to process through the Vermont center

I got the NOA2 and she is going to get her medical exam and she is preparing her vaccine documents. I know I need to fill out the affidavit of support form, but what else do I need to send her for the interview? (this is for K-1, she is in Ukraine)

Do I need to send:

original W-2s or just copies? How many years back?

Other financial forms? if so which ones?

Original birth and divorce certificates I know that at least.

What else am I missing???

It will probably cost you an $100.00 to just send the $300.00 laptop.

It only weighs 2.5 pounds, so I doubt that much, but yes, I know, I've sent plenty of package to Ukraine. Probably 400 dollars in shipping costs alone so far for various packages....

My Ukrainian fiancee (soon wife I hope) has a busted laptop, so I just bought her a new Acer Mini laptop and was going to ship it off tomorrow express mail via USPS. However, I got to thinking that maybe it isn't the most efficient way to send it. What do you all recommend? Think it is safe to send through USPS? Would hate for a 300 dollar laptop to vanish... I think the USPS only insures up to 100 dollars anyways, so I'd take a 200 dollar hit which would suck.

Any safer ways to send it? Think it is ok? Its going to Kiev.

David

I used the ACCO fasteners. Worked great after 2 hole punching the top of the pile of papers. Shipped it out this morning. Time to cross my fingers and pray. :-D

David, here it the proof:

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-129finstr.pdf

go to page 5 of this document, and look on right hand column, and it'll verify who to make your check out to!

Good luck!

Phew! thank you everyone that responded! I'm glad for this forum. Yes, right there, "Department of Homeland Security". :-D

OK that is what I did.... crossed out the mistakes and wrote above or next to it the correct translations. Thank you! This is nerve wracking

My fiancee from Ukraine sent me her G325A signed in the mail. However, after getting some of her documents translated, we realize now that she has a typo in her former husband's name and her own name after being translated. Can I use whiteout to remove the errors?? Do we know if whiteout will invalidate the form?

I'm hours away from sending out my I-129F

WHO DO I MAKE THE CHECK OUT TO? It doesn't say, just everywhere it says send in a check for 340 dollars.

I assume USCIS, but I don't know for sure.

Please help

David

I used paper clips and a binder clip on the whole thing. They will disassemble it anyway. Putting photos in some sort of cover or even a ziplock bag is a good idea.

I have plenty of paper clips and some large binder clips that would fit my stack of paperwork. :-)

Thank you my friends! I appreciate all of your wisdom and knowledge! Exciting to finally be able to file my petition!!

What about identifying things? Sticky notes?

Actually I just read this in one of the instruction forms:

Note: Place all required items in a large, flat, envelope for mailing to the USCIS.

Do not staple or tape documents or photos together or place them in a binder.

Simply attaché the documents + copies, documents + translations, etc. together

with strong paper clips or other similar devices. Do not place documents into

three ring or other binders or holders as the USCIS reviewer will have to

disassemble it before reviewing. Simply place all documents neatly in the

envelope with everything held together with simple clips. Photos should be

placed in a clear plastic bag and affixed with a clip to the package of forms. Mail

the documents package as indicated above.

I'm like two days away from binding and sending in my I-129F petition. However, I have some questions for ya'll. How do they like it bound? Its quite a wad of paper... at least an inch thick and that isn't including the skype conversations (4300 pages.. hah! No Gary I'm not going to include them all :-P )

Anyways, one of the guys here used a Acco Steel Fasteners with holes punched on the top. Another person I know used a 3 ring binder that is punched at top. Seems they like top-punched holes?? What are the best fasteners? I need to go down to Staples to pick up something tonight.

ALSO, what is the best way to label things? Put all the papers into plastic document bags and write on them? Use sticky labels?

Thank you!

David and Irina

I'm a few days away from sending in my I-129F. The question we have tho is about the name of the town where my beloved fiancee comes from. She comes from Dniprodzerzhynsk, from the Dnipropetrovsk region of Ukraine. However, when typing that into the G325 form, not all of that fits, you only get "Dniprodzerz" I believe. Is this acceptable or do I need to hand write in the full name using itty bitty handwriting?

Thanks

David

You're bragging about leaving your fiancee in squalor?

Don't be silly. Would I have filed my I-129F to leave her there? I'm on the government's timeline now. Plus as she has told me once she doesn't mind it because (goes something like this) "you must leave your comfort zone to achieve personal growth". So she lived in a hostel but it allowed her to focus on her research to get her super PHD. I'm proud she has achieved it. I was bragging about how strong Ukrainian women are.

I completely agree!!! At least I haven't met one yet.

Actually these women are stronger than most men give them credit for. They don't NEED us especially those raised during Soviet era when there were massive purges of the men. Some may play that game on the dating sites that they want a man to rescue her, but in the end, these women are STRONGER than the average American woman. My fiancee is living on her own in Kiev in a one room hostel with no one to help her, pregnant, working two jobs, and doing just fine on her own. She is the strongest woman I've ever met.