Islam: a Plan for World Domination?

[mawilson 2,133]

I am sure there are a lot of dead civilians who are very glad to hear that.

i'm sure a lot of our service men & woman would be thrilled to know you think of them as crazy barbarians. especially since they are fighting a war to keep your azz safe & free to bash them on an internet message board.

What makes an American life anymore valuable than a life of an Iraqi?

If the average American is more educated than the average Iraqi, his/her life is more valuable.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

1) Your theoretical insurgent may or may not have military training.

It's my understanding that quite a few Iraqi insurgents are ex-paramilitary or ex-military.

Not to mention the insurgents who have attended the al Qaeda-sponsored "how to use a boxcutter to cut up an infidel" webinars.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

I am sure there are a lot of dead civilians who are very glad to hear that.

i'm sure a lot of our service men & woman would be thrilled to know you think of them as crazy barbarians. especially since they are fighting a war to keep your azz safe & free to bash them on an internet message board.

Well you did say that you think its ok to shoot a guy holding a baby (presumably with automatic weapons) if he was shooting at you.

Now imagine you're the guy holding the baby...

Islamic terrorists love to use babies as human shields. Though they prefer children due to their better bullet stopping power.

[Dan J 277]

We have allies in the region, they give us oil. If we do some really stupid stuff like violate the rules of war on our end. We get no more oil.

They don't give us oil, they sell us oil. If they don't sell us oil, they don't get paid. For a bunch of economies as dependent on oil revenues as those in the ME, choosing to not sell us oil just isn't a good choice.

At least not until Chinese demand is high enough where we pale in comparison and no longer matter.

Drive those SUVs! Maintain American leverage!

Of course. But I'm talking about the fallout if the US were to do something as stupid as to use nukes. It will be a hit, but I would expect the outrage within Saudi Arabia to be such that the government will be forced to stop selling oil to the US. Or deal with a coup.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Islamic terrorists love to use babies as human shields. Though they prefer children due to their better bullet stopping power.

I heard they like to eat them too.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Of course. But I'm talking about the fallout if the US were to do something as stupid as to use nukes. It will be a hit, but I would expect the outrage within Saudi Arabia to be such that the government will be forced to stop selling oil to the US. Or deal with a coup.

You can't eat outrage. They may cut off our supplies for some amount of time, but eventually they'll realize they need cash.

[Heracles 417]

Just because the other side isn't part of it, doesn't release us from our responsibilities under the Geneva convention.

But because we are a state, and part of international law, our actions within those laws can affect our relationships with other countries. We take out the nukes? there will be hell to pay. Not only that, you will basically destroy relationships with any Arab country, which will cut us off for significant supplies of oil. An action that would have costs beyond the battlefield.

Any significant action in violation of international law on our part will have repercussions all across the middle east, and likely the world.

Lol. The Arab world hates and will America no matter what. It did so prior to going to Iraq. Hence sept/11. We have just become fools and are being played by them. So many on the left prefer to deny the constant threats and their use of violence to intimidate us..

Lets take Indonesia for example. Indonesia warmly welcomed Australia's $200 million to protect their forests but has asked for more. All while they just spent $1.2 billion on new military hardware. Point being, the naive need to wake up and smell the coffee and games others are playing..

What does Indonesia have to do with this? Going on a wild tangent again?

We have allies in the region, they give us oil. If we do some really stupid stuff like violate the rules of war on our end. We get no more oil.

Sorry to inform you dan but Indonesia is a Muslim nation. Similar games played by middle eastern countries are also played by them. Many in the west are ignorant on what is really going on in the world. It's a dog eats dog world. Time the left realized that..

Edited September 13, 2007 by Boo-Yah!

[Peikko 1,575]

I can't find the quote where I said American soldiers are crazy barbarians, or for that matter anything to suggest that I might think that. Still, why let a little thing like reality get in the way of a good story?

[Dan J 277]

I am sure there are a lot of dead civilians who are very glad to hear that.

i'm sure a lot of our service men & woman would be thrilled to know you think of them as crazy barbarians. especially since they are fighting a war to keep your azz safe & free to bash them on an internet message board.

What makes an American life anymore valuable than a life of an Iraqi?

If the average American is more educated than the average Iraqi, his/her life is more valuable.

In an economic sense yes, but you could also make a case for the extermination of poor people. But ethically, you would run into trouble.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Anyone seen Training Day?

There are wolves and there are sheep.

Will the United States be a wolf or a sheep?

[smoke20 0]

We have allies in the region, they give us oil. If we do some really stupid stuff like violate the rules of war on our end. We get no more oil.

They don't give us oil, they sell us oil. If they don't sell us oil, they don't get paid. For a bunch of economies as dependent on oil revenues as those in the ME, choosing to not sell us oil just isn't a good choice.

At least not until Chinese demand is high enough where we pale in comparison and no longer matter.

Drive those SUVs! Maintain American leverage!

Of course. But I'm talking about the fallout if the US were to do something as stupid as to use nukes. It will be a hit, but I would expect the outrage within Saudi Arabia to be such that the government will be forced to stop selling oil to the US. Or deal with a coup.

pull your head out dan. if anyone used a nuke others would follow & we'd all die. hence thats why we can not allow dumbazzes like the iranian pres obtain them.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I am sure there are a lot of dead civilians who are very glad to hear that.

i'm sure a lot of our service men & woman would be thrilled to know you think of them as crazy barbarians. especially since they are fighting a war to keep your azz safe & free to bash them on an internet message board.

What makes an American life anymore valuable than a life of an Iraqi?

If the average American is more educated than the average Iraqi, his/her life is more valuable.

In an economic sense yes, but you could also make a case for the extermination of poor people. But ethically, you would run into trouble.

No, that's not the case you can make at all. In fact, rich people need poor people just as much poor people need the rich. It's symbiotic.

[Dan J 277]

Just because the other side isn't part of it, doesn't release us from our responsibilities under the Geneva convention.

But because we are a state, and part of international law, our actions within those laws can affect our relationships with other countries. We take out the nukes? there will be hell to pay. Not only that, you will basically destroy relationships with any Arab country, which will cut us off for significant supplies of oil. An action that would have costs beyond the battlefield.

Any significant action in violation of international law on our part will have repercussions all across the middle east, and likely the world.

Lol. The Arab world hates and will America no matter what. It did so prior to going to Iraq. Hence sept/11. We have just become fools and are being played by them. So many on the left prefer to deny the constant threats and their use of violence to intimidate us..

Lets take Indonesia for example. Indonesia warmly welcomed Australia's $200 million to protect their forests but has asked for more. All while they just spent $1.2 billion on new military hardware. Point being, the naive need to wake up and smell the coffee and games others are playing..

What does Indonesia have to do with this? Going on a wild tangent again?

We have allies in the region, they give us oil. If we do some really stupid stuff like violate the rules of war on our end. We get no more oil.

Sorry to inform you dan but Indonesia is a Muslim nation. Similar games played by middle eastern countries are also played by them. Many in the west are ignorant on what is really going on in the world. It's a dog eats dog world. Time the left realized that..

Yes but what does Indonesia have to do with Iraq? Other than being opposed to the war like the rest of the world?

[Peikko 1,575]

Sorry to inform you dan but Indonesia is a Muslim nation. Similar games played by middle eastern countries are also played by them. Many in the west are ignorant on what is really going on in the world. It's a dog eats dog world. Time the left realized that..

So, far from there being a threat to take over the world by Islam, we have a 'let's get them before they get us' policy from Boo-Yah? It's very interesting that not even the most extreme right wing politicians advocate these kind of foreign policies...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Anyone seen Training Day?

There are wolves and there are sheep.

Will the United States be a wolf or a sheep?

Its always been a wolf. The problem today is that groups like Al Qaeda are good at baiting and trapping.