Packet 3 back in the post

[homesick_american 1]

[no name 1]

Devilette - you're coming in mid-stream here and not really helping anything. Rebeccajo and I have talked about the thread and we're both being level-headed about how to proceed with it and to answer anyone's question. There's no high-fiving. I'm not out to "get" rebeccajo. I'm just passin' along the information on the phone number.

oh I was only responding to the dig you made at me.

I was patronizing devilette a bit since she jumped on your bandwagon looking for a fight, rather than to continue to exchange information as you and I had been doing.

p.s. I dislike lawyering and most lawyers. I dislike arguing.

Is that why you argue every single post I make? Is that why your siggie says(in bright red!):

I am an attorney - but I am *not* an immigration attorney and I am *not* your attorney. I am absolutely not offering legal advice here.

Edited May 30, 2007 by devilette

[TimsDaisy 0]

Devilette - you're coming in mid-stream here and not really helping anything. Rebeccajo and I have talked about the thread and we're both being level-headed about how to proceed with it and to answer anyone's question. There's no high-fiving. I'm not out to "get" rebeccajo. I'm just passin' along the information on the phone number.

oh I was only responding to the dig you made at me.

I was patronizing devilette a bit since she jumped on your bandwagon looking for a fight, rather than to continue to exchange information as you and I had been doing.

p.s. I dislike lawyering and most lawyers. I dislike arguing.

Is that why you argue every single post I make? Is that why your siggie says(in bright red!):

I am an attorney - but I am *not* an immigration attorney and I am *not* your attorney. I am absolutely not offering legal advice here.

I have a disclaimer because my I value my license more than a message board. It's boilerplate and I'm hardly alone.

I take rebut many of your posts because they contain factually inaccurate information, mistaken conclusions, or opinion presented as fact that I believe can scare readers and give them the wrong idea. I'm pretty clear about all of that. And have been.

But you took things much farther off-topic than my discussions with rebeccajo had led things. We were still discussing whether the number works and whether it is supposed to our not. You are trying to make people feel like they are . . . well, what is it exactly? Wrong? Selfish? Crazy? for calling instead of using the email access, as you did.

As ever: sending an email worked great for you. There are other ways to get information about your case status however. I could probably mail in my request as well - though that wouldn't be very efficient. It's the way you made your point - like it was some huge win that sending an email worked for you. I never said email didn't work. I was just sharing the story of my progress so far, rebeccajo was surprised to hear about the number, we hashed it out, and that's that until further notice. You're picking a fight where one doesn't exist. And really, aren't there many other threads between us where a fight would've been better placed?

[Dwarf_Ogress 0]

Anyways as I said earlier...

Congrats to Tim & Daisy for being that much closer to bliss!

[no name 1]

Devilette - you're coming in mid-stream here and not really helping anything. Rebeccajo and I have talked about the thread and we're both being level-headed about how to proceed with it and to answer anyone's question. There's no high-fiving. I'm not out to "get" rebeccajo. I'm just passin' along the information on the phone number.

oh I was only responding to the dig you made at me.

I was patronizing devilette a bit since she jumped on your bandwagon looking for a fight, rather than to continue to exchange information as you and I had been doing.

p.s. I dislike lawyering and most lawyers. I dislike arguing.

Is that why you argue every single post I make? Is that why your siggie says(in bright red!):

I am an attorney - but I am *not* an immigration attorney and I am *not* your attorney. I am absolutely not offering legal advice here.

I have a disclaimer because my I value my license more than a message board. It's boilerplate and I'm hardly alone.

I take rebut many of your posts because they contain factually inaccurate information, mistaken conclusions, or opinion presented as fact that I believe can scare readers and give them the wrong idea. I'm pretty clear about all of that. And have been.

But you took things much farther off-topic than my discussions with rebeccajo had led things. We were still discussing whether the number works and whether it is supposed to our not. You are trying to make people feel like they are . . . well, what is it exactly? Wrong? Selfish? Crazy? for calling instead of using the email access, as you did.

As ever: sending an email worked great for you. There are other ways to get information about your case status however. I could probably mail in my request as well - though that wouldn't be very efficient. It's the way you made your point - like it was some huge win that sending an email worked for you. I never said email didn't work. I was just sharing the story of my progress so far, rebeccajo was surprised to hear about the number, we hashed it out, and that's that until further notice. You're picking a fight where one doesn't exist. And really, aren't there many other threads between us where a fight would've been better placed?

You don't get it, do you? You do not know how to STOP. You push & push & push until I leave a thread. It usually works too because I have no desire to hit a brick wall, over & over.

I never tried to pick a fight, I said email worked FOR ME. I said I did not have an ancient filing, as you implied I did.

You continually come after me Daisy, and it's personal. It's never about facts, or anything else.

You have that in your siggie because you think it validates you, your opinions, etc. I have no need to validate myself with a professional description of what I do.

[Dwarf_Ogress 0]

Okay this thread needs to be locked. Where are the MODs?

[rebeccajo 14]

Y'all quit.

Devilette, Rebeccajo....it does seem that visa-y things do change a lot over time. The sheets that are being sent out to applicants now are different from the ones we received in 2005-2006, and it does seem that USCIS/DOS/US Embassy - London are constantly changing the rules and moving the goalposts.

Daisy...I know you're a lawyer and you must love to argue...but this isn't one that anyone is going to win.

*ducks back behind the shed*

HA, I agree. Things do change. That's why I'd like to learn more about this - whether or not it's an actual service available to all; or if it's just certain consulates providing the info; or whether or not it's the occasional loose-lipped customer service rep.

[Mags 112]

Okay I'm just going to step in here and ask people to calm down. The accusations of personal grudges should either be taken to PM, reported to the admin or just stopped completely. Please don't derail this thread any further. Thank you.

Apart from that, this thread IS actually getting somewhere from what I can see. Daisy has used the DOS phone number numerous times and gotten results, as have other members here. Rebecca is trying to figure out whether this is something that appears to be short term, or whether this seems to be a long term thing. If it turns out that this method of finding out information is here to stay, it could be very beneficial to the VJ community, hence I am leaving this topic open for now.

[Dwarf_Ogress 0]

Okay I'm just going to step in here and ask people to calm down. The accusations of personal grudges should either be taken to PM, reported to the admin or just stopped completely. Please don't derail this thread any further. Thank you.

Apart from that, this thread IS actually getting somewhere from what I can see. Daisy has used the DOS phone number numerous times and gotten results, as have other members here. Rebecca is trying to figure out whether this is something that appears to be short term, or whether this seems to be a long term thing. If it turns out that this method of finding out information is here to stay, it could be very beneficial to the VJ community, hence I am leaving this topic open for now.

Thanks Mags for stepping in! It is just so frustrating when one tries to get information and opens up a thread like this! VJ is a learning experience for everyone regardless of stage or process etc. I hate to see people attack each other!

[psho 0]

Thanks for the info, TimsDaisy!

[Dawny&Tommy 0]

I tried calling the London embassy, numerous times, to find out if they'd received our case. They couldn't tell me a thing. Tommy called the State Dept. and was told it had already arrived, and packet 3 had been sent a few days before, 5/20. Very helpful indeed.

Dawn.

[Buxton babe 0]

I don't think that's the case. I think the number is good and I think it is available for these sorts of inquiries on the status of forms, etc.

To wit: a post from BuxtonBabe regarding calling to sort out the interview time: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...1&hl=buxton

I can't say for certain anymore, but I think I read in another BB post or via some PMs between us about the number and the process. Search isn't getting me to it anymore.

TimsDaisy;

Congrats on making headway in your journey.

You are correct in mentioning that I also benefited from using the magic 202 phone number. I had got caught in the mysterious PO box triangle. My Fiance made numerous calls to the London embassy at great cost, no information given out. I made calls and was told to e-mail using case number in subject line, these e-mails were also returned.

I finallly used the 202 and was given accuracte concise information.

As was previously stated, from time to time different numbers or means of getting good information is made available, as one goes another will appear.

In the short time I have been on this board I have greatly benefitted from the experience of members with more hearts and bars than I have, however I have made a point of remembering that their posts should be viewed as advice or experience, NOT the law. Case in point; my fiance travelled to visit me during the K1 process, much against the advice of more experienced members.

Ps: To keep my sanity I will not be responding to this topic anymore.

[msu17 0]

Thanks for the # since the e-mail doesnt seem to be working for us.

[TheZilla 0]

I keep reading this thread but I can't figure out what's so upsetting? Maybe I am dense, hehe.

Is it really about whether or not the state department number works? [i might be off, I dunno, I can't figure it out].

If it's any help, Andy and I called the state department and we were actually TOLD to call the state department by one of the fine Scottish lads on the extortion helpline & given the number which worked fine. I tried to find the paper with the number to compare, but unfortunately I can't as it's gotten lost in the shuffle somewhere [i DID find a lost chili recipe stuffed in with my K-1 stuff for some reason, so that made me happy, heheheh]

At any rate, whether they change the number or not, I don't think it's unusual to call the state department as I've done it, and so have a bunch of people I think. Also, I got a lot of help from 'The National Visa Service Center", but NOT for particular details regarding my case as much as answers to general questions about the process [i had called to ask about whether or not Andy could visit while the K-1 was being processed and they were very helpful].

To me it seems like it depends on who you wind up talking to in the end. I.E. one helpline employee in a dozen might be the only one who knows enough to mention it, you know? I called loads of numbers over the course of an hour and a half when I was looking for answers, and went through many channels before someone gave me the visa service center number. Also, Andy had talked to a few different people on the extortion helpline about the same things before one guy actually gave him the state department number. So I don't think it's a matter of hidden numbers or anything, as much as how informed the people we get in touch with actually ARE.

Hope this helps?

[Linababe 0]

Hey cool my medical is also on 6/6 what time is your fella's - and i am supposed to be going the the upper berkely street on - which one is he going to? My medical is at 2.30pm I may meet him in the waiting room lol you never know:)

Good luck with getting the interview date soon:)

Lina (UKC)