Joint Sponsor Inquiry

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Where is the beneficiary from?

Rules on accepting the I-134 can vary from embassy to embassy, from what I understand. If your beneficiary is from a low-risk country however, it's likely accepted. (Edit: Sorry, I see you said Brazil. I was looking for a linked timeline. I really don't know what risk level Brazil is viewed as; I recommend you look up what Packet 3 and 4 entail for Brazil for post-NOA2 processes.) Assuming that:

1) Beneficiary needs to take proof of financial support to the interview in the form of an I-134. If the petitioner cannot meet the requirements of the I-134 alone, enlist a joint sponsor. The joint sponsor ALSO fills out an I-134 and both parties have to submit their supporting documentation (tax transcripts, etc) as proof of income. Unless your embassy requests it, don't mail this. You do not need the I-864 yet.

2) Assuming approval - your beneficiary moves to the US. Get married.

3) When filling out adjustment of status (AOS) post-marriage, you will need to submit the I-864 with that package, as that's the one used for spousal applications. You don't need the I-134 again at this point. If your income still isn't enough at this point to sponsor alone, you will again need a joint sponsor to also fill out a separate I-864 with all supporting documentation.

As for the 864A regarding household members, I hope someone else can chime in. Our joint sponsor is not a household member so I'm unsure personally how this works.

Hope that helps clear it up a little. I know, this whole process is very confusing and rife with contradictory information

Thank you so much for your response. We have done research and don't see Brasil popping up muchly for being a high risk country.

It's something so easy to get anxious about. We will be together for a year this September so if we get everything to go the way we are hoping, we'll shred this distance apart and be together hopefully next summer/very early fall (Near our two year anniv). Neither of us have degrees. We are 29. I don't have any debt here. No good credit score (no bad either-Just got my 1st CC a few months back to start establishing credit).

Care to elaborate on "Packet 3 and 4" ? Not FOR Brasil, but what do they entail. On number one, thank you for that detailed description. Her and I have been wracking our brains over the 864 and 864A. We get it now. Until she gets here and we are married, the 864 and 864A wait. The I-134 DOES travel to her for when she goes to her interview in Rio.

I have looked into it. Is it difficult to get all the proper forms for the I-134? Doesn't seem too difficult, but thought I'd ask. Assuming approval part (#2), that's another one we get on. My plan is I am going to the interview no matter what. If I have a job and they won't allow me the time off, that's where I am stuck. She says she has no issue with going alone, but it's THE interview, you know? I'd love to be there with her when she finds out that she (hopefully!!) gets the K1. What a moment to share with her, you know? I want to be with her there too though when she officially moves here. Anyway, off topic. My question is what would you do in the position I put. Would you quit the job and go? If so, would that influence them at the embassy for the interview? I imagine it could. We've researched so much about the interview. It seems so intimidating, but we've read a good few where it wasn't as bad as people built it up to be.

On the filing out the 864, are you saying I could use my father as a joint sponsor on the 134 and then after she moves here and we get married, I could just decide not to use him again? Wouldn't that be odd since I had just used him on the 134? Wasn't sure if that could cause issues.

On the 864A, don't worry about it but thank you for your honesty. We assume that we'll do it, but as you noted before, the 864 doesn't get done until we are married and she's here. After that, the "A" goes as an attachment to the 864.

The entire process can just be so daunting. I've lived out in CA for a few years with roommates and then I moved back to OH. I then decided to go out to CA one more time and then came back. I have never lived on my own technically without others ever. Never lived outside my Dads house IN Ohio. I wonder how many things are truly an issue because I overthink and overanalyze soooooo much about this process. When she moves here, there is no doubt we will be able to find a cheap place to live on our own and be fine. We also figure we can live with my Dad for some time since she won't be able to work for six months and that'll give me even more time to save up money.

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Sorry I'm traveling and on my phone so I can't read everything you posted.

Bottom line is that for k1 you will use the i134. If you need a joint sponsor, the person will also fill the i134. Both of you will need supporting documents as well, which I listed before.

When the immigrant gets here, after marriage, when filling for aos, the form needed will be the i864. Same thing, if you have a sponsor, they will fill a i864 as well. The i864a is for household members, which I believe can only be used if you and the sponsor live together and/ or claim each other on your returns.

Focus on your k1 step now and go prepare your i134 package! If your Brazilian partner needs help or tips, I can also speak Portuguese.

Good luck!

First off, obrigado!! That is so sweet and kind of you to offer her. She speaks english very well, but sometimes things get lost in translation for anyone, so again thank you for reaching out with that. As someone else posted and now you just said, it's great to learn this about the joint sponsor inquiry I started. I don't know that I have much else to ask regarding it though I am sure something can come up. I'm grateful I can use my Father. I just am nervous about how it looks on me to the interviewer that I'm 29 years old and unable to provide for her right off the bat (Meaning I shouldn't be using a joint sponsor in their minds).

I do live with him, but he doesn't include me on any tax forms (to my knowledge) so I'm still a bit unsure whether or not we include the attachment 864A with the 864. I'm sure we'll learn more over time as it isn't required right now. I just need to get her biographic information, letter of intent, passport photos, and any other miscellaneous stuff she wants to include and then I'm up to bat.

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First off, obrigado!! That is so sweet and kind of you to offer her. She speaks english very well, but sometimes things get lost in translation for anyone, so again thank you for reaching out with that. As someone else posted and now you just said, it's great to learn this about the joint sponsor inquiry I started. I don't know that I have much else to ask regarding it though I am sure something can come up. I'm grateful I can use my Father. I just am nervous about how it looks on me to the interviewer that I'm 29 years old and unable to provide for her right off the bat (Meaning I shouldn't be using a joint sponsor in their minds).

I do live with him, but he doesn't include me on any tax forms (to my knowledge) so I'm still a bit unsure whether or not we include the attachment 864A with the 864. I'm sure we'll learn more over time as it isn't required right now. I just need to get her biographic information, letter of intent, passport photos, and any other miscellaneous stuff she wants to include and then I'm up to bat.

As long as there's another person to sponsor, I don't think they'll care if you're 29 and not able to have an income that meets or surpasses the poverty guidelines. When it's time for filing the aos, you may want to ask about the i864a, but I still believe there's no need for it, you and your father, the sponsor, will fill the i864.

Remember she can send the docs signed scanned to you. Also, she can send the picture and you can print it at Walgreens.

Best of luck