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In Britain, Islamist extremist Anjem Choudary proves elusive

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Sounds like this guys is taking full advantage of the overly-lawyered manner in which Western states are run. In India, this guy would have been shot by a cop in "self defence" and then they'd lose his body to organ thieves and that would be the end of it.

By Griff Witte October 11

LONDON — As British war planes arc through Middle Eastern skies and security services race to unravel terrorist plots at home, the nation’s most prominent propagandist for the Islamic State sits in a London sweets shop, laying out his radical vision between bites of dessert.

Iraq and Syria, Anjem Choudary says confidently, are only the beginning. The Islamic State’s signature black flag will fly over 10 Downing Street, not to mention the White House. And it won’t happen peacefully, but only after a great battle that is now underway.

“We believe there will be complete domination of the world by Islam,” says the 47-year-old, calmly sipping tea and looking none the worse for having been swept up in a police raid just days earlier. “That may sound like some kind of James Bond movie — you know, Dr. No and world domination and all that. But we believe it.”

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Even as a coalition that includes Britain and the United States wages war on the Islamic State, Choudary and other enablers remain free to spread their seductively messianic ideology on the streets of the United Kingdom ... They do so by taking advantage of the very rights they condemn as un-Islamic and by using their considerable charisma to lure lost souls.

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Extremism continues to flourish in Britain despite more than a decade of concerted effort to stamp it out.

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Britain has long been a locus of Islamist extremism, with its large Muslim immigrant communities and its tolerant approach toward those with radical views.

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Choudary has been, for nearly two decades, at the forefront of a succession of groups — including al-Muhajiroun, Islam4UK and Muslims Against Crusades — that have been outlawed for extremist activities. Once a group was banned, Choudary quickly set up a new one with a similar structure and many of the same members but with a new name.

The majority of Britons convicted of Islamic-extremism-related offenses in the past 15 years have been members or supporters of Choudary’s network. Choudary himself, despite multiple arrests, has never been convicted of anything more than staging an illegal demonstration.

Days after his latest release, sitting in the sweets shop in the northeast London neighborhood of Ilford, he is unbowed and almost dares the government to come after him.

“You need sufficient evidence,” he says, as numerous well-wishers stop by to vow their support. “And they have no evidence whatsoever.”

Choudary, whose parents emigrated from Pakistan but who was born and raised in Britain, has a thick black beard that is turning as white as his spotless shalwar kameez — the traditional South Asian garment that is ubiquitous in Ilford, where Choudary lives.

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As for the Islamic State’s execution of Americans, Britons and countless Syrians and Iraqis, Choudary insists that the claims are overstated and that those the organization has killed deserved to die.

It’s that sort of dance — lauding a terrorist group, without actually inciting violence — that has kept Choudary out of prison.

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Choudary has so bedeviled British security officials that the government recently proposed changing the law in a way that seems tailor-made for him: Authorities would be able to restrict individuals’ travel and activities, even without a criminal conviction. The changes could also keep people like Choudary off the air and offline — in much the way Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams was barred from television and radio during the height of the violence in Northern Ireland.

But the strategy has drawbacks.

“The danger is that we make them into martyrs,” said David Hanson, a former British counterterrorism minister.

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Sitting in the sweets shop in Ilford, recounting details of his recent arrest and release, Choudary is interrupted by a young man with a wispy beard, pushing a baby carriage.

“I saw you on the news yesterday, on the BBC, standing on Ilford Lane,” the young man tells Choudary earnestly. “I support a lot of what you — well, everything that you stand for. I think it’s the media that is against us. And obviously, the establishment.”

“Of course,” Choudary says, nodding and offering his phone number. “Of course.”

The young man leaves with a smile, and a promise to call.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/in-britain-islamist-extremist-anjem-choudary-proves-elusive/2014/10/11/eb731514-4e43-11e4-8c24-487e92bc997b_story.html

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Sounds like this guys is taking full advantage of the overly-lawyered manner in which Western states are run. In India, this guy would have been shot by a cop in "self defence" and then they'd lose his body to organ thieves and that would be the end of it.

Overly lawyered? I guess that's one to look at the UK legal system's insistence that suspecting you have done something wrong isn't enough to convict you of doing it. Needless to say, I don't think there is any danger of the flag of isis or whatever the hell they call themselves is likely to get flown over the British Parliament buildings, or the White House, despite Mr Chodary's rhetoric, fun though it is.

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