Major Blow to Homophobes: SCOTUS Refuses to Block Gay Marriage in DC

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I am concerned about freedom for religion, association, and speech for anyone who believes that gay marriage and the obligations it creates on members of sociey affects them adversely.

No-one's freedom of religion, association or speech has anything to do with the issue at hand. Nothing.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

No, you didn't say it. But how could it not

It doesn't, just as being a Muslim woman didn't stop me from marrying a Christian man.

Edited March 4, 2010 by Sofiyya

[Peikko 1,575]

Show me where I said I teach at a university. You people are very good at jumping to conclusions. You're given an inch and you take a mile.

I saw that about this crowd a while back. Now that you're on to making up stuff that wasn't said, we are off an running.

I neither know nor care what you latest claims to fame are, I just know you use this device frequently, I'm this, I'm that, I have the other and you do it in order to lend weight to your opinions. It doesn't.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I'm not even convinced that most gays want gay marriage. I am convinced that a vocal minority, bolstered by Leftists seeking power do. Their claims are magnified as if they represent the majority, similar to how the wishes of terrorist Muslims have been projected upon the rest and the Islamic faith.

If sympathy for terrorism has as niche a presence in Muslim communities as you'd like to have us believe, why is it that organizations like AQ do not invite the kind of widespread revulsion in Muslim countries that organizations like the Klan do here?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

No-one's freedom of religion, association or speech has anything to do with the issue at hand. Nothing.

So you say, but that proves nothing. Actual events prove differently.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

It doesn't, just as being a Muslim woman didn't stop me from marrying a Christian man.

Cafeteria Muslim?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

If sympathy for terrorism has as niche a presence in Muslim communities as you'd like to have us believe, why is it that organizations like AQ do not invite the kind of widespread revulsion in Muslim countries that organizations like the Klan do here?

How do you know it doesn't?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Whether she votes for it or not is not important. Consensus in the American gay political community is that such a distinction is discrimination and they won't settle for it. This is one example of the homosexual political community being unreasonable and intransigent.

So, they should have come up with an alternative to civil marriage for interracial couples? Were those pesky interracial couples unreasonable, too, demanding nothing less than equal protection under the law as enshrined in the Constitution? Perhaps those that crafted the Constitution and it's amendments are to blame?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Cafeteria Muslim?

Critical thinking, well educated Muslim.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So you say, but that proves nothing. Actual events prove differently.

Which one, specifically and how?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

How do you know it doesn't?

Polls. But wait, you don't believe polls.

Critical thinking, well educated Muslim.

You sound just like a Cafeteria Catholic.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

So, they should have come up with an alternative to civil marriage for interracial couples? Were those pesky interracial couples unreasonable, too, demanding nothing less than equal protection under the law as enshrined in the Constitution? Perhaps those that crafted the Constitution and it's amendments are to blame?

I'm curious. What do you think happened after the Loving ruling? Give us the chronology.

[Peikko 1,575]

I'm not even convinced that most gays want gay marriage. I am convinced that a vocal minority, bolstered by Leftists seeking power do. Their claims are magnified as if they represent the majority, similar to how the wishes of terrorist Muslims have been projected upon the rest and the Islamic faith.

It matters not one jot whether you are convinced about it or not, nor whether their is some secret left wing agenda at work, ready to undermine you at every turn. That is completely and utterly, and mindbogglingly irrelevant. Did you buy your masters degree at some tin pot institution online?

So you say, but that proves nothing. Actual events prove differently.

Concrete examples? No? more bull.

Edited March 4, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Which one, specifically and how?

Tell us what you know about how Catholic organizations or the Boy Scouts have been affected by gay activism and gay marriage laws.

Polls. But wait, you don't believe polls.

You sound just like a Cafeteria Catholic.

No. I'm a Quran beliving Muslim. I know how to separate traditional tribal traditions from what Allah expects of us.

It matters not one jot whether you are convinced about it or not, nor whether their is some secret left wing agenda at work, ready to undermine you at every turn. That is completely and utterly, and mindbogglingly irrelevant. Did you buy your masters degree at some tin pot institution online?

Concrete examples? No? more bull.

FYI for the rest of the evening: It matter not at all to me what you think.

Edited March 4, 2010 by Sofiyya

[Peikko 1,575]

Secularism intrudes far more deeply into religious life than religious life intrudes into secularism.

No it doesn't.