SAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

[daboyz 36]

One thing that really rubs me wrong about these numbers:

289,065 H1/H2 visas issued.

Only 62,080 K, IR visas issued.

Seems like they are spending most of their time bringing people here to take American jobs.

[GeneT 0]

Still preparing for packet 3 submission....

The agency we are using for translating documents says we need to get official government seal on their translations for : Certitifcate of unmarried status, birth certificate, and a name change certificate. and this costs 400THB for each document on top of their translation fee for each document (350THB), plus 600 THB to bring all the documents to the government office.

Was I mistaken to think if they should apply a seal or provide proof of being a certified translator would be enough?

Did everyone else do this? Sounds like a scam to me...

Thanks, I can't wait to join all the other packet 3 submittors wiating for interview date

[scandal 951]

Still preparing for packet 3 submission....

The agency we are using for translating documents says we need to get official government seal on their translations for : Certitifcate of unmarried status, birth certificate, and a name change certificate. and this costs 400THB for each document on top of their translation fee for each document (350THB), plus 600 THB to bring all the documents to the government office.

Was I mistaken to think if they should apply a seal or provide proof of being a certified translator would be enough?

Did everyone else do this? Sounds like a scam to me...

Thanks, I can't wait to join all the other packet 3 submittors wiating for interview date

Yes, we had to do something like this as well. I don't know the details, Thanti handled it. We had all of our translations done by Sunbelt Asia, and they took care of getting the government seals done. I don't remember the cost, but 400B sounds probably right.

If Thanti (magic girl) replies, she can give you more accurate information.

I don't think you were scammed on this. If you were, then we were too.

[magic girl 0]

· Thai ID card of the applicant

· Thai House Registration Book of the applicant

**They are not in the checklists but they will be asked for anyways please becarefull before send back P3 .

Good luck

This is just insane.

They only just updated the checklist and procedure now, May 2009.

The new procedure is to direct applicants to the website to use the NEW CHECKLIST.

The new checklist does NOT mention Thai ID card or Thai House Registration Book.

But both are now REQUIRED in Packet 3 response.

#######???????????????????

This is perverse.

They are seriously TRYING to get people to fail in this process. There can be no doubt about it. I think Scott is right - there is an internal ####-covering operation going on there, and this is just the external manifestation of it that we are seeing.

No ! not enough

Please beware on the interview date they will ask for the death certificate of her parents (in case fo they passed away)

or some case they asked for her diploma can you see how #$@%^&^*(*&^ they are !

Hope I don't scared you .

Thanti THANK YOU for the information. I sent it over to Chada via email but they are having problems with the Internet. Would it be possible to call her tomorrow to discuss?

Also here is a link to the Bangkok website for the DS2001 Form

My pleasure sir

Wait ! Thai ID card of the applicant

· Thai House Registration Book of the applicant

Why do you need to send to her ?She should have with her

Please ask her to translate· Thai House Registration Book of the applicantonly the front-back cover and the page which has her name

Thai ID card of the applicant do not need to be translated.

Is there any Q please let me know ( she can call me any time I free this week )

[rin and john 71]

One thing that really rubs me wrong about these numbers:

289,065 H1/H2 visas issued.

Only 62,080 K, IR visas issued.

Seems like they are spending most of their time bringing people here to take American jobs.

The one thing that has always gotten to me is the wait time/process for K1/K3 non-immigrant visas (start to finish 6 to 12 months to process for someone who has a US citizen basically vouching for them). But a visitor, with no USC backing them up, can get a visa in Bangkok in 8 days! See here (unless you are currently waiting and prone to acute nausea):

http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/wait/tem...p;x=87&y=10

No USCIS, no long wait, welcome to USA for 90 days (or longer since student visas are also processed in 8 days!).

In 2008, there were 38,017 B1/B2 visas approved by the BKK embassy. Most of these were issued in less than two weeks. They received an additional 2,011 K1/K3 visas with data already vetted by USCIS and it takes them 2 to 4 months to approve these? Why not treat K1/K3 applicants in a similar fashion as B1/B2s, as USCIS is going to make the final determination anyway as to whether or not they can remain in the USA? Do all the K1/K3 vetting/processing locally with similar criteria as B1/B2. Then complete the "immigrant" portion of the process while in the USA. The only valid argument is that we would have people getting here and then staying illegally without completing the USCIS process. Really? More illegals? Even if 5% of the 40,000 K1/K3s went bad and remained in the USA illegally, those 2,000 are a drop in the 11+ MM bucket of illegals already here. Use the money currently wasted on the overly bureaucratic K1/K3 process to improve our borders and the tracking/deportation of illegals already here. The money would surely be much better spent in this manner with respect to protecting our borders!

OK, dismounting soapbox, rant over.....

[daboyz 36]

Still preparing for packet 3 submission....

The agency we are using for translating documents says we need to get official government seal on their translations for : Certitifcate of unmarried status, birth certificate, and a name change certificate. and this costs 400THB for each document on top of their translation fee for each document (350THB), plus 600 THB to bring all the documents to the government office.

Was I mistaken to think if they should apply a seal or provide proof of being a certified translator would be enough?

Did everyone else do this? Sounds like a scam to me...

Thanks, I can't wait to join all the other packet 3 submittors wiating for interview date

Well the Thai documents will already have a seal and the emblem. When they do the translation the English document will just have at the top "Official Emblem" and at the bottom where the official seal is at the bottom, they just stamp "Official Seal Affixed" There is no actual seal or emblem on the English translation, Just the stamp and signature from the translator. So no, on the English translations there is no government anything.

[scandal 951]

One thing that really rubs me wrong about these numbers:

289,065 H1/H2 visas issued.

Only 62,080 K, IR visas issued.

Seems like they are spending most of their time bringing people here to take American jobs.

The one thing that has always gotten to me is the wait time/process for K1/K3 non-immigrant visas (start to finish 6 to 12 months to process for someone who has a US citizen basically vouching for them). But a visitor, with no USC backing them up, can get a visa in Bangkok in 8 days! See here (unless you are currently waiting and prone to acute nausea):

http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/wait/tem...p;x=87&y=10

No USCIS, no long wait, welcome to USA for 90 days (or longer since student visas are also processed in 8 days!).

In 2008, there were 38,017 B1/B2 visas approved by the BKK embassy. Most of these were issued in less than two weeks. They received an additional 2,011 K1/K3 visas with data already vetted by USCIS and it takes them 2 to 4 months to approve these? Why not treat K1/K3 applicants in a similar fashion as B1/B2s, as USCIS is going to make the final determination anyway as to whether or not they can remain in the USA? Do all the K1/K3 vetting/processing locally with similar criteria as B1/B2. Then complete the "immigrant" portion of the process while in the USA. The only valid argument is that we would have people getting here and then staying illegally without completing the USCIS process. Really? More illegals? Even if 5% of the 40,000 K1/K3s went bad and remained in the USA illegally, those 2,000 are a drop in the 11+ MM bucket of illegals already here. Use the money currently wasted on the overly bureaucratic K1/K3 process to improve our borders and the tracking/deportation of illegals already here. The money would surely be much better spent in this manner with respect to protecting our borders!

OK, dismounting soapbox, rant over.....

John, I will ask you nicely. Please stop it. Right now.

You are talking sense. You are suggesting a plan that would actually be logical.

We're dealing with US Immigration here. Logic and common sense simply will not be tolerated.

Stop. Desist. Now.

[daboyz 36]

One thing that really rubs me wrong about these numbers:

289,065 H1/H2 visas issued.

Only 62,080 K, IR visas issued.

Seems like they are spending most of their time bringing people here to take American jobs.

The one thing that has always gotten to me is the wait time/process for K1/K3 non-immigrant visas (start to finish 6 to 12 months to process for someone who has a US citizen basically vouching for them). But a visitor, with no USC backing them up, can get a visa in Bangkok in 8 days! See here (unless you are currently waiting and prone to acute nausea):

http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/wait/tem...p;x=87&y=10

No USCIS, no long wait, welcome to USA for 90 days (or longer since student visas are also processed in 8 days!).

In 2008, there were 38,017 B1/B2 visas approved by the BKK embassy. Most of these were issued in less than two weeks. They received an additional 2,011 K1/K3 visas with data already vetted by USCIS and it takes them 2 to 4 months to approve these? Why not treat K1/K3 applicants in a similar fashion as B1/B2s, as USCIS is going to make the final determination anyway as to whether or not they can remain in the USA? Do all the K1/K3 vetting/processing locally with similar criteria as B1/B2. Then complete the "immigrant" portion of the process while in the USA. The only valid argument is that we would have people getting here and then staying illegally without completing the USCIS process. Really? More illegals? Even if 5% of the 40,000 K1/K3s went bad and remained in the USA illegally, those 2,000 are a drop in the 11+ MM bucket of illegals already here. Use the money currently wasted on the overly bureaucratic K1/K3 process to improve our borders and the tracking/deportation of illegals already here. The money would surely be much better spent in this manner with respect to protecting our borders!

OK, dismounting soapbox, rant over.....

John, I will ask you nicely. Please stop it. Right now.

You are talking sense. You are suggesting a plan that would actually be logical.

We're dealing with US Immigration here. Logic and common sense simply will not be tolerated.

Stop. Desist. Now.

[rin and john 71]

One thing that really rubs me wrong about these numbers:

289,065 H1/H2 visas issued.

Only 62,080 K, IR visas issued.

Seems like they are spending most of their time bringing people here to take American jobs.

The one thing that has always gotten to me is the wait time/process for K1/K3 non-immigrant visas (start to finish 6 to 12 months to process for someone who has a US citizen basically vouching for them). But a visitor, with no USC backing them up, can get a visa in Bangkok in 8 days! See here (unless you are currently waiting and prone to acute nausea):

http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/wait/tem...p;x=87&y=10

No USCIS, no long wait, welcome to USA for 90 days (or longer since student visas are also processed in 8 days!).

In 2008, there were 38,017 B1/B2 visas approved by the BKK embassy. Most of these were issued in less than two weeks. They received an additional 2,011 K1/K3 visas with data already vetted by USCIS and it takes them 2 to 4 months to approve these? Why not treat K1/K3 applicants in a similar fashion as B1/B2s, as USCIS is going to make the final determination anyway as to whether or not they can remain in the USA? Do all the K1/K3 vetting/processing locally with similar criteria as B1/B2. Then complete the "immigrant" portion of the process while in the USA. The only valid argument is that we would have people getting here and then staying illegally without completing the USCIS process. Really? More illegals? Even if 5% of the 40,000 K1/K3s went bad and remained in the USA illegally, those 2,000 are a drop in the 11+ MM bucket of illegals already here. Use the money currently wasted on the overly bureaucratic K1/K3 process to improve our borders and the tracking/deportation of illegals already here. The money would surely be much better spent in this manner with respect to protecting our borders!

OK, dismounting soapbox, rant over.....

John, I will ask you nicely. Please stop it. Right now.

You are talking sense. You are suggesting a plan that would actually be logical.

We're dealing with US Immigration here. Logic and common sense simply will not be tolerated.

Stop. Desist. Now.

Sorry, every so often I slip into moments of lucidity. I will go home, take the meds, and have a glass of wine. At which point I should be in much better shape to once again sing the praises of the government....

It won't get fixed as it represents a very, very small part of the immigration process (even though it is near and dear to all of us here!).

[daboyz 36]

Another thing to take into account. At best, only 50% of the people involved in this process can even vote, so there is no incentive for them to fix anything.

[GeneT 0]

No ! not enough

Please beware on the interview date they will ask for the death certificate of her parents (in case fo they passed away)

or some case they asked for her diploma can you see how #$@%^&^*(*&^ they are !

Hope I don't scared you .

Hi, is a copy of the death certifcate good or do they need an original?

Thanks for your help!

[magic girl 0]

Still preparing for packet 3 submission....

The agency we are using for translating documents says we need to get official government seal on their translations for : Certitifcate of unmarried status, birth certificate, and a name change certificate. and this costs 400THB for each document on top of their translation fee for each document (350THB), plus 600 THB to bring all the documents to the government office.

Was I mistaken to think if they should apply a seal or provide proof of being a certified translator would be enough?

Did everyone else do this? Sounds like a scam to me...

Thanks, I can't wait to join all the other packet 3 submittors wiating for interview date

Yes, we had to do something like this as well. I don't know the details, Thanti handled it. We had all of our translations done by Sunbelt Asia, and they took care of getting the government seals done. I don't remember the cost, but 400B sounds probably right.

If Thanti (magic girl) replies, she can give you more accurate information.

I don't think you were scammed on this. If you were, then we were too.

Thanks for giving me a cradit CHR. but it is really hard job to find the receipts.

I found the email from them hope it is can give you some info;

As for the translation, we can translate the document for you in just 1 day for a fee of 400baht a page. For this document to be officially recognized, it must be certified at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Thailand. We can immediately send the document there for certification. Our fee is 1000 baht, government fee is 800 baht per set. The certification at Ministry of Foreign Affairs will take 2 days but can be done in 1 day for an express fee.

Well ,on Thai website there are the pattern form for each document to help you to translate them by yourself and some suggestion just stamp date and sign your name but I prefer to do them official and looks professional because we need to use it whe adjust my status

[magic girl 0]

No ! not enough

Please beware on the interview date they will ask for the death certificate of her parents (in case fo they passed away)

or some case they asked for her diploma can you see how #$@%^&^*(*&^ they are !

Hope I don't scared you .

Hi, is a copy of the death certifcate good or do they need an original?

Thanks for your help!

Original one sir ,do not need to translate just take it with her in craziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii case of HE ask for.

[Danno2 0]

I just read the new Packet 3 instructions on the embassy website. At the very top it says its OK to have the documents in Thai or English. Any other language needs to be translated. If that is the case why does everyone need to get translation and new seals?

[daboyz 36]

Still preparing for packet 3 submission....

The agency we are using for translating documents says we need to get official government seal on their translations for : Certitifcate of unmarried status, birth certificate, and a name change certificate. and this costs 400THB for each document on top of their translation fee for each document (350THB), plus 600 THB to bring all the documents to the government office.

Was I mistaken to think if they should apply a seal or provide proof of being a certified translator would be enough?

Did everyone else do this? Sounds like a scam to me...

Thanks, I can't wait to join all the other packet 3 submittors wiating for interview date

Yes, we had to do something like this as well. I don't know the details, Thanti handled it. We had all of our translations done by Sunbelt Asia, and they took care of getting the government seals done. I don't remember the cost, but 400B sounds probably right.

If Thanti (magic girl) replies, she can give you more accurate information.

I don't think you were scammed on this. If you were, then we were too.

Thanks for giving me a cradit CHR. but it is really hard job to find the receipts.

I found the email from them hope it is can give you some info;

As for the translation, we can translate the document for you in just 1 day for a fee of 400baht a page. For this document to be officially recognized, it must be certified at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Thailand. We can immediately send the document there for certification. Our fee is 1000 baht, government fee is 800 baht per set. The certification at Ministry of Foreign Affairs will take 2 days but can be done in 1 day for an express fee.

Well ,on Thai website there are the pattern form for each document to help you to translate them by yourself and some suggestion just stamp date and sign your name but I prefer to do them official and looks professional because we need to use it whe adjust my status

This sounds like the process I went through in Thailand to have my marriage recognized in Thailand.

I'm not sure why the Ministry of Foreign Affairs would get involved to have the Thai documents related to the beneficiary translated.